Look Jen, I know this case sucks hind tit. I get it. Now you have an expert witness on the stand who knows her field, and frankly sweetie you don’t. In fact, you were so distracted Wednesday by your attempts to imitate Juan’s interrogation style you made some huge mistakes. Want a hint? How about a brief excerpt from a favorite poem of mine? See if you can find my clue:
Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
“‘Tis some visitor,” I muttered, “tapping at my chamber door-
Only this, and nothing more.”
Ah, distinctly I remember it was in the bleak December,
And each separate dying ember wrought its ghost upon the floor.
Eagerly I wished the morrow;-vainly I had sought to borrow
From my books surcease of sorrow-sorrow for the lost Lenore-
For the rare and radiant maiden whom the angels name Lenore-
Nameless here for evermore.
Lovely no? Well nameless Lenore will be no more Jen if Juan decides to add the name Lenore Walker to his rebuttal list. You see Jen, you spouted off above your station about Lenore Walker. You could have said all kinds of things in response to DeMarte bringing up Lenore on the stand. Had I been you, I would have asked DeMarte, “Is this Lenore Walker you are so fond of the same Lenore Walker who testified as an expert witness in the OJ Simpson case for the DEFENSE?” That might have woken the jury up. But no, you chose to falsely say she does not use her own methods anymore. That was stupid, Jen. I hope for your sake that you have not angered Lenore. She might just show up to testify of her own accord and that would make you look even worse. But LAWD that would be funny.
That’s enough about Lenore. You have an even bigger problem. Your client seems to fall deathly ill when things are not going well for your side. You need to get her under control. This witness is clearly triggering her crazy. Get her an extry dose of her crazy pills before carting her out there for the rest of the trial. And lose her green shirt.
Meanwhile, we will be watching, and talking about you here. I am not going to be around as much today so I hope the gang does some good recapping for the folks at work. I’ve got my own courtroom circus today. I’ll be taking my own peanuts in under my invisibility cloak. 🙂
The prosecution fell on their face today, as usual. Aren’t the prosecutors supposed to at least try to get a conviction?
Here comes the troll.. Troll alert, troll alert, dumbass alert, I mean, troll alert!
Fact-providers and supporters are not trolls, they are simply informed and factual. Course, that makes the uninformed and uneducated very angry as they often attack the fact-providers as demonstrated so well by you. Thanks for proving my points.
What facts are have you provided to support your opinion? I must have missed them could you please restate them again please.
Jan Corey, you would get along well with Edgrrrr Longenecker!
Hope I spelled his name correctly!!
Who?
Got her head-up-her-ass alert. Isn’t there a Twitter picture you can post here about Jodi supporters?
Who’s a Jodi-supporter? I am just for Justice and the facts.
And, oh, Jan Corey? Get rid of your “wounded warrior” icon. It’s embarrassing to those who have truly served their country. They’ll just want to draw a target from space around your house, got it?
I love WWP.
How do y ou figure, JanC?
Everybody else watching thinks this doctor was extremely impressive.
Plus one could actually check up on her data; not like the Violet woman who used ONLY the words of a lying murderer to arrive at her , eh, conclusions.
Delusional
You know, Jan, truth is while he’s a great prosecutor, he doesn’t have to try hard. When the defense has to resort to lying (ie. Ms Walker), they’re unethical and desperate. Your wounded warrior icon indicates you may have sufferred a head wound.
Clearly a case of self-defense.
Curious — how exactly is this clearly a case of self defense? What facts do you know to prove this? Personally, Jan, I don’t see the correlation between Travis having a hard-on-induced hissy fit and the resulting need for her to defend by gunshot, 29 stab wounds and a bloody new necktie.
Explain how it is a clear case of self defense.
TT good luck in court but sounded like your lawyer does better than JW on cross. Tommy Tu-Tone right?
hey vida! I think they are desparately trying to keep themselves convinced. Like jodi the other day scribbling “nothing happened again today” but can i go i gotta nuther headache
Good luck in court. Tell She by Sheree that we ALL have our eye on her and her crazy as. I hope she knows that her court case with you is about all that is keeping her anywhere near relevant right now, because if it weren’t for this, I would be like Sheree who? Seriously. Can’t wait to hear all about it.
I find your blog very informative and entertaining! Nice insight and perspective.
first of all, I LOVE that pic of JM and the judge laughing-this trial is sadly lacking in smiles in the courtroom! Second, didn’t you LOVE the way JM kept emphasizing the word ‘doctor’ when referring to Samuels?
Glad to hear that I didn’t miss too much this afternoon. I stopped watching during the lunch break to get stuff done before I left for the Bruins game.
Good luck in court TT. Time for you to check her, boo!
OOOOH! Great reference! “Who’s gonna check me Boo?” Well, let’s hope it’s our own tt who ‘checks her’!
It’s a murder trial that could result in the death penalty. It ought to lack in smiles. I’m offended on behalf of both Travis and Jodi when giggling and laughing is going on. That is one of the things that annoy me about Jenn W’s questioning. Though I can see how someone would think otherwise, this trial is not “entertainment”. It is a serious legal and criminal matter and everyone needs to behave accordingly.
ok, can I just say..lighten up? I think all parties are taking this trial very seriously and I wasn’t suggesting that I was looking for jokes to entertain me. I was merely remarking on the fact that I hadn’t seen a smile from Juan or Judge Stephens before. Period. This has been a week severely lacking in smiles around here, so it stood out to me.
Cammie, I love seeing folks smile. There is something magical that translates in a smile. And I love this photo. I think Judge Stephens is so pretty. Although I understand the sentiment of Seriously, I do believe that every now and then, a natural light-hearted moment like the one captured in the photo does wonders.
This was clearly out of the jury’s presence and these are REAL people. It’s been almost 4 months!!!!! I think you’re overreacting. It’s not like Jodi smiling in her mug shot.
And, hence, the handle “Seriously”.
Ladies! I don’t want to come back to any table flipping or weave pulling in these comments! We are all on the same side…well except whatshername…
Good luck today Tamara.
Dr. Demarte has testified on the stand that as part of her evaluation of Jodi, she took a complete medical history on her. I hope that Juan can get a chance to question her today and ask her if Jodi ever mentioned getting migrane headaches.
But sadly, Wilmott will probably be sucking up all the time today with Demarte.
Miss Tam-our hearts and prayers go with you today as you march off to slay the dragon! May the judges eyes be clear, your attorney have the right words and that you have strength to glow in the rightness of your case. So Mote It Be! Truly!
Hi -My name’s Melinda this is my first post. Excellent group here-sharp, smart and funny. I’d just like to get your thoughts on this-Did Jodi fake the migraine to get JW out of the afternoon disaster that was looming? I’ve been thinking for awhile that Jodi is running the defense team. All that furious note taking and last week it seemed that she was prompting JW to object to various JM questions to ALV. (JW was up to her eyeballs in notes and didn’t even seem to be following the testimony). Up until now KN (sounds like Bert and Ernie everytime I hear it) doesn’t have much interaction with JA in the court room but yesterday notes were flying and surprise , surprise -court is canceled again.
As a long time migraine sufferer I can tell you that you usually know when they’re coming on and know enough to treat them before they get full bloom (ie take medication BEFORE you come into court in the morning). She said somewhere that she was taking Imitrex. If she is, it usually takes 2 hours for it to kick in and while you may feel a little weak and woozy you are certainly capable of handling a regular day. Sorry Jodi migraines are not a good excuse to stay home from school.
Tamara – Just got up to speed on your legal woes. I’m truly sorry you have to waste your time (and $$!!) dealing with that fruitcake. I believe in karma…she’ll get hers. Good luck today. Hang tough.
Good morning, TA warriors!! Jan Corey, if you thought the prosecution fell on their face yesterday they you must own shovels and picks to dig the defense attorneys out of the deep holes, that keep getting dipper, day after day.
Do y’all think Willmott saw Dr. Walker on Nance Grace last night! I’ll bet she said the ‘B’ word for sure if she did!! Nothing like being made to look foolish!
Fight and Flight testimony today. I predict DeMorte will fight and Willmoot will want to ‘flight’!
Good luck, Tamara!
I’ve had no sleep so I can’t type this morning. Let me repeat my sentence to JanCorey. If you thought the prosecution fell on their face yesterday then you must own shoves and picks to dig the defense attorney out of the deep holes, that keep getting deeper, day after day!!
We knew what you meant, Rose, but thanks for clarifying.
Cost of delays is enormous…so why not substitute the imitrex for something that stops migraines instantly like the shots my daughter takes for her migraines…or would the needle be too traumatic???? Also faking migraine..nobody writes,draws during episode..eyes are exploding and rapidly ditch glasses who amplify the pain of sensory overload.
Yeah, really! I would never be able to do artwork. My left eyeball feels like it’s going to explode. She may certainly suffer from them, but you can’t do anything during one.
Loved the reference to the poem! How apt after yesterday’s fiasco. I must say I don’t care much for NG, but kudos to her for getting LW on – although I’m sure Walker contacted her – right after she texted Mr. Juanderful!
Great Poe Poem!! Yesterday I saw JW’s alter ego,and it was not good, embarassing in fact. She portrayed herself much like a spoiled child. I do not see it possible to rehabilitate the damage she has done. Watching the behavior of JA the past two days,it seems, reality has FINALLY set in.
You are right, Kimberly! JA is her own worst enemy! IF I were one of those jurors…the fake crying wouldn’t impress me…and the past two days, when she was involved in either coloring, copying her manifesto or writing her closing arguments gave the impression that she may have been in the courtroom, but she “wasn’t there”! When Dr deM said she is “immature”, and then you see jodi coloring…it makes sense!
I saw the graphic photo of the neck wound this morning…OMG…even MY STRONG stomach turned…the outrage of the general public would increase by 1000% if it were shown!
I read something a few days ago where JA attempted to act as her own attorney (with her inflated sense of self, not hard to believe, huh?). But, I guess she failed so miserably on the one and only motion she argued, Nurmi got her to reconsider…I also read somewhere that he REFUSES to sit next to her! (Probably afraid she is a man-hater, and has a knife & HE is probably the one who demanded the “shock belt”!!)
I can’t help but wonder if any of the jurors are aware of the Pinellas Pinheads…and I pray that the jurors see what we see…the problem is we have seen so MUCH more than they have! We KNOW so much more! Is there any possibility that they can find her GUILTY…of man 1, but not pass the death penalty? I know TEXANS aren’t squimish about giving the death penalty (Karla Faye Tucker comes to mind) how are the folks in Arizona? Anyone know?
Wonder what the defense has in store for us today? I will give Willmot credit for establishing 3 VERY IMPORTANT facts for the court:
1. Dr. D was not a practicing psychotherapist in 1980.
2. She (gasp!) advertises! (Of all the noive!)
3. Her rates are very reasonable.
When is she going to get to the part where her client stabs Travis 29 times, nearly cuts his head off and shoots him?
And doesn’t it seem like Jodi should be charged with maybe 3 murder 1’s? I mean, she killed the guy three times. Lizzie Borden didn’t even do that.
kh
Love the post Tamara, and khintx, you are so right! She’s also killed and/or embarassed a few careers along the way smh
I like the title, TT. Prisoner Of The State Of Arizona, #8675309. Good luck in court today, TT. Sheree has always played dirty.
Good luck today Tamara!!!!
Ditto on the bonne chance .
It has been nice meeting you all.
MJ
Best of luck to you my sister, by another mister TT!!
I hope you slay the beast that is Sheree in court today!
I think Jodi got sick from eating her crayons.
So, court today at 9:30 if Jodi says so. No court Monday and not on Friday next week as planned either. Next week will be a 2 day week… I think. I noticed that Jan seems to think the JM had a bad day yesterday. I’ll have to think about that. OK, I thought, and it seems to me that JW & JA had a really bad day. That Dr. D is one bright chick! I was so sure that JW would not make a fool of herself by keeping Dr. D on the stand long. I believe JA had a migraine b/c JW needed time to prepare. I’m a migraine sufferer. There was not a single time I had a migraine that I could have sat in a brightly lit courtroom and colored for 5 hours. Just saying!
Just too funny peachteachr & so true.
Please address DUCT TAPE FOUND AT CRIME SCENE..DID SHE BIND HIS WRIST TO TORTURE HIM? GOOD LUCK TODAY!
Hi all. One theory might be she had knife duct taped to her back while taking. shower photos. In easy reach.
Someone here state the other day that they saw a picture in which TA had used duct tape to tape on his exercise thingy on his arm.
My husband made me laugh the other day. He said maybe TA bought the rope to tie JA up while he was sleeping!!
MAYBE he BACKED into her KNIFE TWENTY-NINE times!!!! And MAYBE cut his neck shaving…(but, I don’t THINK so!)
You have to excuse Jodi’s supporters. They live in an alternate reality where that “fog” Jodi talks about rolls in quite often so they miss out on quite alot the rest of us pick up on. Since I know some lurk here I thought I’d share some things to help them out
a) Jodi is not innocent. By her own admission, she shot him in the head, then stabbed him. His throat was then slit. You may argue whether she is a murderer but she IS a killer. Might want to rethink the website.
b)So Jodi was defending herself so she shot him in the head and he tackles her so she stabs him in the back to get him off, also severs his jugular vein then she gets him off then straddles his chest and stabs…. No wait, that stops being self defense… So she shoots him, he’s still coming, so she stabs him in the heart and then somehow lands on his back… no, that won’t work either… and I didnt even get to the throat slit…
I’ll stop here. B alone is going to take some time for your brains to work through. Y’all come back when you can get around that. Or just wait 5 mns, that fog will roll in and all will be alright in your world.
Best of luck in court. TT. Your lawyer will help prove why defense lawyers can be the good guys/gals despite some evidence to the contrary lately. I will post updates in appreciation for all of TT work on keeping this Blog going..
Hey y’all as you can see, Jan is out of her spam cage where she has been talking to herself for weeks. Because I have to run to court for a bit, I removed the moderation on Jan temporarily because it also effects a few other people that I want to be allowed to post while I am out. Jan is what we call a troll on the Internet, she is trying to get your attention. My suggestion is just to ignore her and I will remove her again when I get back. In defense of the Jodi is Innocent site, I’ve never seen Jan there, I am sure they would not like her as a representative of their views. Jodi is presumed innocent in court until a conviction is announced. Her supporters have the right to support her, whatever our feelings on that may be. So let’s stay focused on our observations in court today. 🙂 I promise Jan will not be an issue for long.
Besides if I ever go on a murderous rampage with the victims DNA all over me an photographic evidence of the carnage, I expect a Tamara is Innocent website supported by all of you with a donate button so I can buy Cheetos in jail. Hmmm I wonder if they have Cheetos in jail…
Also, be sure to do little recaps of the drama today for our faithful readers who can’t watch at work! 🙂
Well said TT. in America we should all be able to have our own opinions and the freedom to express them – even trolls. To Jan’s credit she was short and to the point – we can only hope she gave some pointers to Willmo.t.
We’ll take care of the house today, you go ‘check’ Sharee or however she spells it. Love that she is claiming you stalked her at a house she doesn’t own. Stalking, really? Wish Travis could testify for you about what stalking is.
Good luck today, Tamara!
Did anyone hear from Tamara yet?? *concerned*. *fingers & toes crossed*
TO THE JODI-ITS! jodi allready adressed the duct tape. She said thats was used to hold Travis’ body bug for workout data. I like how ja says she is including thumbprints in drawings so people can conrirm its a JEN-YOU-WHINE AIRY-ASS drawing
LOL @ Steve, because if Jodi told us that it must be true! I do seem to remember something about a pedometer thing that might have bee visible in one of the sex pix. Why would a man wear his “work out data bug” while having sex? Steve, any thoughts?
Funny! When I read “airy ass” and saw “hairy ass” instead. The curse of getting older… 🙂
Yeah, cause owning a JA original is so important we will definitely want to be able to prove it one day. You know, like a Renoir or a Van Gogh, or Monet. They are all authenicated by a thumbprint, right?
TT still great to read everyday – enjoy being a guest. TT Warriors?, Cool.
I suffer migraines & I’m an artist. So since it is more important for JA to show-off her batty mascara (& control her urge to dive over the desk with her art-nub like Glen Close) (testimony getting too personal, JA?) – I was getting car sick just watching her play with her “cheaters” on and off all day. (mostly off) She was squinting ~Ouch! ~ @ computer screen, too. (new look for her) and who knows maybe that wicked finger purges better. So – my Mom used to tell me when I pouted about my glasses blocking my face – she’d say “Stop trying to impress everyone. – Either put your glasses ON or OFF ~ But NOT BOTH !” Self-inflicted “time stall tactics.” – I think the DF wants to burn through the last 4 alternates…. then it’s 1 more down to = Game Over ! Desperation & estrogen is in the air – and I BET – there is 1 MAN on jury she making goggles at !! Maybe Nervous Guy? ~ Anybody agree ? [by the way when I grew up – I let my bangs grow out with me]
If jw used the B word in court what kind of trouble can she get in? Just a fine or reprimand? What if the jury heard?
Steve, IF the judge heard, or JM complains ..she could be “in contempt” perhaps. Or fined. If Dr d gets miffed, she. An talk to the judge, or file. Complaint with the Bar Association, (probably fined)…depends on jurisdiction.
Anyone think Juan will get his re-direct today ?! -________-
Fingers crossed that he does….
well said!
aND.= the seal is up!
LC. I wasnt in mesa june 4 of 08. I was just remembering testimony. Maybe TA was working out when ja got there. Only she knows but lies so all is a guess. I always thought TA told her not to come to mesa and that sealed his fate. When she got there she touched his happy place and he let her stay to play.
Does everyone involved in this trial have to have a first name that starts with J? There’s Jodi Arias of course; Jennifer Wilmott; Juan Matinez; Dr. Janeen DeMarte; Jodi Legg, a DNA analyst with the Mesa Crime Lab; Jody Citizen, telecommunications expert. When I’m reading posts with all the short forms JM, JA, JW, JDM, it makes me run through a mental list of all the participants. It’s giving me a migraine. I need to take my Imitrex now 🙂
The seal is up. Let’s hope they are on time cause I’m ready to see JM mop the floor with JW.
Wonder if Jennifer Baldspot’s “b” word slip is causing the delay?
Here we go. Jennifer all in purple, Jodi in a white blouse, Sherry Stephens in black.
Janeen in coral and gray!
Uh oh…..Jennifer says Good morning, Doctor…. Janeen: No response..
Here we go with fight or flight….
Nicely done, janeen. kh
Where is JA’s mother’s twin sister? She was there everyday and about 3 weeks ago she just wasn’t there any longer.
Out of curosity, I visited jodiariasart.com, I wanted to see what changes had occurred in the last week…someone is obviously making sweeping changes…there used to be a page of “sold” art, and the amount the items sold for..that’s all gone…and so is almost EVERY item that was up for sale since then…there are ANOTHER 15-18 items up for sale that I hadn’t seen before…as if she has spent the past 5 years doing nothing else but making “stock” to sell after the trial started…SOMEONE is a marketing genius!
It’s too bad that her art is so awful! I really HATE to see folks buy BAD art…but then again, people aren’t buying it because it’s GOOD art, but because of who drew it (or more likely, traced it!). There is no longer a set price for the pieces, “bidding begins at $1000″… (To think of the thousands of TRULY talented artists who can barely sell their creations for what they spent on supplies while she is selling her poorly executed “jail art” is sickening! Her conviction can’t come soon enough…before more “collectors” are screwed by Jodi’s greed!).
Then, after clicking a link, ended up at “jodiisinnocent”…OMG…I want the names of EACH of those people! I have a SON…who is generally a “nice guy”…and I’m afraid of some of those women who write things like “he deserved what he got, he USED her!” It’s enough to think about asking my son to either give up women and becoming a monk…or moving to San Francisco! I saw those gynocological photos of her “naughty parts”…no one FORCED her to stick that stuff in the air & take photos of it…
I cannot believe how many people TRULY BELIEVE that she will walk out if jail like Casey Anthony did…oh, please lord, don’t let that happen…
I’m LIVID…sorry!
I believe that’s called righteous indignation and I agree with you.
I hear you. She used TA for sex. She got him addicted to her. And, her supposed “art”, is juvenile! Looks like stuff a 12 year old girl would draw in her bedroom! It makes me sick. I went to art school. I also owned a fine art photography gallery…and she’s NO photographer either!
grrrr….. She drives me crazy. She is evil and JW is a snippy, small, spiteful smarty pants! Nurmi, well, he is just a slow talking fat head.
Forgive me, that rant was small of me but sometimes I can’t stand it. Sometimes this trial feels like we are watching adolescents!
Karon & peachTeacher, my NEW BFFs!! Totally agree, miss K, after three months, these folks are working on my last nerve…& can’t turn off, afraid I might miss something! They need to be working 9-5 M-F…not this screwing around!
I know its early but im loving Dr.D so far today!!!!!!!
Jennifer schooling Janeen on the way the brain works. NOT!
Jodi’s hippocampus is not atrophied. Glad to hear it.
Love this site, thanks Tamara – good luck today!
Where can I watch the trial online?
12:58 … Oh boy – Here we go !! ~ JW is winding up her unbearable chipmunk voice ! Grr ! When it sounds like fast forwarding my CD player with the up-turn… I take my dog outside to pee to work off my Grr-Issues ! ….Alvin….!!!!
Talk about barking up the wrong tree. Flight or fight does not apply when someone is the attacker.
My view today from the live stream at azcentral.com: Trial is starting with bench conference and we are off. Dr. D has a coral top with grey suit. Jodi is in a white button down blouse, hair is down, bangs are side swept and glasses on. She is attentive but golf pencils are locked and loaded. Willmott is in a wine colored suit and Nurmi is in the tan suit from the big, tall and even bigger lawyer suit store. Willmott is speaking in a “friendlier” tone and discussing hippocampus’s. Oops, Willmott is struggling with the friendly tone and at 7 minutes in we have sidebar. Short side bar and back to be about fight or flight response and who, when photos were deleted. Were photos deleted before TA took shower? – objection by Juan and we have a side bar. Willmott wants Dr. D to provide knowledge of when photos were deleted. Juan objects, sustained Discussing clean up at scene after after TA was killed, back to a side bar. Willmott is now flustered and seems unsure of where she is at w/ questioning.
Priceless!
Where can I watch it online?
There are several sites to watch it live but try http://www.wptv.com there will be a link for arias trial live feed #helpful
About this camera in the washer thing. I’ve always thought that it probably got caught up in the bedding and got thrown in the washer by mistake. He was dead by 5:31 and one of his roommates got off work at 6 and was expected to come home that day. So she didn’t have much time to get away.
Well, Wilma took Jodi’s paper, notebooks and golf pencils away today. But, Jodi seems to be sporting a lazy eye with her left eye. Creepy. I wonder who she’s mimicking.
Jeepers! Jodi is mouthing stuff and shaking her head. And, Wilma is getting nippy. And the Dr. is calm and precise.
Court room camera is showing split screen shot of JA and Dr. D and how their hair is styled the same, long hair side swept bangs. Jodi is observing Dr. D and paying attention, no office work taking place. Dr. D is back to drinking lots of water.
Dr Daneen is rocking the style, Jodi not so much.
I think Jen W put her hairpiece on better today. Too bad there’s nothing underneath.
HA, that is a good one!
Jennifer – read me from your notes….get them out and find it….now let’s mark it as an exhibit….okay.
Janeen does so.
Jennifer: Well never mind that isn’t what I wanted….so forget it.
Jodi writes in her notebook and passes it to NumNums.
Court watchers report few notes being taken by jurors at least one question in basket. Dr.D. looks annoyed at Willmott as if she is a mosquito that will not go away.
is it just me, or did Wilmott take yesterday’s afternoon off to color her roots?
Shhh….it’s a hairpiece – put on better today.
I disagree – I think it’s spray-on hair color applied directly to her scalp. And what’s up w/those fingernails?
LOL you could be right….she wants to look nice….
I notice that too, and her hair is less frizzy today.
In all fairness, if Juan can color his hair, she can too.
But JM recognized his mistake and got that stuff out of his hair. I’ve done that myself and had to wash my hair repeatedly to get it out.
Hardly seems fair when I can’t tear myself away to do the same.
haha let’s not talk about OUR roots please! Mine have been showing for a week now :X
Wow, did JW really just say “after she HAD to kill Mr. Alexander”…ugghhh, Travis’ poor family, I don’t know how they refrain from jumping out of their seats and throttling that woman!!!
Willy also said “crime scene”. Anyone notice how taken Flores is with Dr.D?
Jury out for 10 minutes…..Sherry talks to counsel…. Janeen has her notes on the MPPI
Maybe I heard wrong….maybe it’s a longer break
Just started watching 40 min. ago, but it appears JA is paying much better attention today. Think the Judge or her counsel scolded her?
Doctor mentions Jodi kicking her mother. Jen is incensed: “I know you wanted get THAT in……”
It should be in evidence, Ms Baldspot, along with so many OTHER things you fought to keep out.
The issue is: the jury should be able to know all things concerning her and her mother. She had a fight with her mother, the day she left to kill Travis. She had a fight with her mother, when her mother went to Az to help her move back to Ca. The jury should be told everything. Not just stuff that happened when she was a child!
Ain’t it the truth, Patricia….ain’t it the truth.
Exactly, Patricia. I keep hearing references to JA kicking mother in adolescence; however, I think of moving day scene in AZ as an adult. Was this the kicking incident? Or are we racking up a more significant total, here? Am surprised (concerned) that someone (prosecution) doesn’t corral the horses on this point. Seems we’ve got several different episodes, henceforth therefore verifying – tada! – a pattern of anger, rage, violent outburst? Maybe not. I’m lost.
AND WE’RE BACK!!
I like this witness. She is a good witness. She can admit to things and concede points. Whereas, the defense experts could not. They completely fell on their swords for Jodi, stating shit that made them look bias and unprofessional. Giving that he had nearly 30 stab wounds, a slit throat and a gunshot wound, yet, he was the greatest perpetrator of domestic violence – even though Jodi’s funky ass didn’t even have a scratch on her. Jodi was perfect and could do no wrong. This lady can admit Travis had his faults at time. I like her. I like her even more that she is making Jennifer look like a dumb ass.
Wow Jen is way over her head again today and is trying to adapt to how Juan questions a witness and it is not working. It is really sad how she is struggling. Dr. D is making Jen look like the idiot that she is.
Dr. D says she can’t go further than Travis’ words b/c he’s not alive twice. Bet JW doesn’t like that.
Jennifer says let’s talk about the texts from May 27…..Janeen wants to read them before she comments. Jen goes to her stack of papers pawing through like kitten in Charmin….can’t find it…
Well….never mind….let’s talk about something else….
Yup Dr Demarte says twice: “No, I can’t know what Mr Alexander says….he is no longer with us…..”
Jennifer – so you can’t talk to someone no longer here?
Janeen – uh….no
I suggest a seance!!!
Oh for goodness sake, my ears are bleeding from the sound of Wilmott’s voice. “And you wouldn’t want to add anything to your answers, now would you, that would make it misleading? You just want to answer the question asked so as not to be misleading, isn’t that right??” She is a snarky bitch, and it is ironic how she is asking questions that a smart jury would listen to and go “and, yeah, that’s what your defense experts did, didn’t they?” Oh, and baldyspot is now covered with spray paint. She must be reading the blogs. The ONLY thing I can say about Jennifer — what a waste of law school money — is that I like her suit.
Yea nice suit. I think she went to IDCD college with Romeo Miller….or maybe on line….
That is ICDC….
Bwaahahaha jkindy, those commercials crack me up.
*the only GOOD thing…” I mean.
Lovely Sherry (Samantha) Stephens says okay folks let’s put on the feedbag!
Well court has been fun today so far. Willmott keeps trying to trip up DeMarte but it is clearly NOT working. Willmott also has the bad habit of trying to twist Demarte’s words and DeMarte is quick to call her on that. Willmott has not made any good progress or points today. Other than proving that this is indeed an expert on the stand who is very smart, self composed, and clearly has her act together. Jodi has been paying more attention today at times nodding her head in disagreement with the expert. Right before lunch was called she started to scribble away again in her journals. So far a good day in court…
Agreed…..on all points. Do you see a pattern here? LOL
HLN talking heads feel that Willmott is emulating Juan-style as she was clued in from observing how public opinion on social media etc. indicates we like him, defense not so much. Were we that obvious people! Her tactic is to copy his style. HLN comments that this is the sign of a good lawyer to change her style and go with something else. She is definitely being aggressive, copying Juan-isms saying that is not what I asked you, it’s a yes/no question when Dr. D wanted to clarify. Problem with changing your style is that you must be comfortable with it and she is struggling.
After testy exchange between Dr. D and Willmott we have a then side bar a tense Judge announces early lunch.
JenMott may leave the chapter about the X exam out of her memoirs.
HLN is so annoying!I change the channel every time they go to break.I refuse to give into their taking us hostage for their own monetary greed.JW is sooo smirky and makes little noises to show her irritation.I luv that she really isn’t making any points,she is only getting in more damaging info on Jodi.She hasn’t explained why it is that Dr.D was able to interview family and friends but the incompetent squad ALV and Dr.Dick did not.
Great point, Darla. Remember back to the cross of Dr. Dick and ALV? All JW cried those days was ‘Judge, the witness can’t answer yes or no’. And, she constantly said to ALV, ‘Do you need to refer to your notes?’
HLN is impossible to watch. They are making all the money they can off TA’s death. Shameful! I’ll never watch that network again and I used to enjoy Jane Velez-Mitchell a lot. wptv.com has live coverage, no commercials, so stupid talking heads who know less than we do. Did I mention I’m not happy with HLN?
“no” stupid talking heads, not “so”
Yup this is the one I watch….we get all the cuss words, too!
I got my panties all scrunched when CourtTV became TRUtv…but, got accustomed to it…
And when TRU dumped all but two hours…got twisted even more…I’m a court junky..have been since before OJ/Scott Peterson, et al…I’m really disgusted with the whole thing! Don’t know what I will do after this trial…but for right now, I’m watching online…I KNOW they need to do commercials…but getting information in three minute increments is getting silly!!
I don’t watch “reality” TRU TV…it doesn’t seem that “real” to me…and HLN with no trial coverage offers me no programming…I hope I don’t have to go back to reading True Crime books!! Maybe I need a kindle…
What channel is that on Dish? I can’t stand HLN either.
You rather expect it out of JM…he’s that way with everyone…Willie only comes off as being a bitch to someone who is more intelligent, controlled and prettier than both her and her new BFF!
Willie better hope for DP, cuz jodi doesn’t like people who love her & leave her…she gets EVEN…Nurmi will be second…for sleeping the past two weeks!
I don’t think that JW will let JM clean this up today. She learned her lesson 2 weeks ago when she left JM 30 minutes to cross ALV and he decimated her in that short time. ALV never recovered from that few minutes. So I guess JW will prattle on for the rest of the day.
Noooooooooo… ! (But, yes, I know you’re right.)
Yea – she didn’t buy this power suit to just walk the runway for 1/2 day! She’s gonna be on the red carpet for the full day! Nice heels, too. Too bad she can’t carry the matching JCP purse.
I just laughed till milk came out my nose! A little snarky today??? I wish I had thought up that line!! 😉
This suit made Wilma look like an over-stuffed eggplant.
These 2 remind me of a couple of dogs that walk by my house. Dr. D is the Irish Setter, tall, sleek, self-assured – and Willy is the Jack Russell running circles around the Setter, nipping and yapping, but the Setter just keeps walking, calmly and assuredly, appearing only mildly irritated at the annoying little dog.
LOL, you do know that Juan Martinez’ nick name in AZ is the pit bull.
No, I hadn’t heard that, that’s funny, what would you say for Nurmi, I say one of those large slow moving bulldogs, and the judge…a poodle, and Jodi? Shaking chihuahua? I say borderline fox, no offense to foxes.
I have a chihuahua and she is now upset that she was compared to Arias. I will try and calm her down with a cookie. 😛
My chihuahua thinks he’s a rotttweiler!!!!
So does JW think it is “Okay” to kick your mother because your mother has hit you in the past? I have no idea how you guys feel about that but i know ive had arguments with my mother, young and older, i have never hit her and would never think that was appropriate behavior.
JW says did you know Jodi’s mom would hit her and start arguments with her? As if to say “okay u can kick ur mom if she argues with you” thats normal behavior… my ass.
Yes, I AM older than dirt…and the 50s/60s WERE a different time…my parents believed “spare the rod, spoil the child”…and, I got my share of “the rod”…BUT, if the THOUGHT had even crossed my mind to raise a hand (or foot) against either of my parents, someone would have had to scrape me off the wall with a putty knife! My mother had “eyes in the back of her head”, and KNEW when I rolled my eyes or stuck out my tongue…and a sprained finger was my reward for “flipping” it in my mother’s direction…I ate plenty of lava soap for a “naughty word” and trust me, a lie is not worth eating a tablespoonful of Tide!
Abusive? Maybe…but I grew up to be an intelligent, kind, compassionate, loving, TRUTHful woman who many people come to for a bit of advice, or to share the good and bad of their lives. My husband admires my “level-headed” nature, my son still shares time with me, and respects me.
As a “good mormon” jodi SHOULD have learned “honor thy mother and thy father”…as well as that other one…something about not killing/murdering people…oh, and the other one about “false witness” …oh, and the “coveting” thing…and the “adultery” thing …and the “stealing” thing….did I get them all??
I live in a glass house, so I’m leaving the gravel in the drive way…
I am playing the role of the “make up” police again. Jodi looks to be wearing mascara and lipstick, perhaps a tinted gloss.
I can just hear JW saying “now Jodi, if you pay a little more attention today, I will let you wear a lil mascara and lipstick so you will look as professional as Dr Martne. But you have to promise me, you will act like you give a shit while I fight for your life”.
Jodi says “what a bitch” but agrees to be engaged while wearing the makeup, LOL.
Wonder how the made-up and coiffed Jodi would define a Hippocampus?
“Is that a question on the GED??? Ok..um…college for hippos? A hippo campus?”
Yea, that’s the ticket….
Kinda sure professionals dont use words like ‘lil’.
Seriously? Comment was playfully written, didn’t really happen.
Plenty of professionals are all over the lil. Rock on, mamrj. Play appreciated!
I knew it was playful. Just a pet peeve. I shoulda just scrolled.
This isnt to you but Janes comment. Those professionals you speak of would clearly be defense attorneys or summat?
LOL, I got worried my made up story was perceived as real. You are sweet to reply. I can’t get over how awesome Dr Martne is at testifying. She is so on top of her game and witty. I didn’t have near her confidence at her age!
Wilmont asking Dr. Demarte questions regarding the unkind words that Travis used on Jodi like 3 hole wonder, whore, etc. Wilmont asked about the word slut, Dr. said she doesn’t remember specifically the word slut being used, but she would be happy to read & review it if Wilma could show her. Wilma then just goes on to a different question. Wilma is throwing words in that Travis obviously never used, and when the Doc calls her on it, she has to move on.
IMO, Wilmont is making herself and Jodi look very bad up there. Wilmont trying to trip up Demarte and it is backfiring on her. She needs to wrap it up and end her questioning. I believe the jury is seeing just what she is attempting to do as well.
Where is Wilmont going with all of these “mean words” that Travis used to Jodi?
Who in the entire world hasn’t used mean words to someone when they’re upset with them at some point? We are all human! That does not prove that he beat her!
I do agree with u Jennifer coming off a big stupid..couldn’t even find her papers of texts..
Does anyone here think that JW really thinks she is making headway and scoring points with her X?
Hard to say… she gets her knickers in a knot, jumps the track, smirks, rifles her papers, huffs & puffs, goes all evil eye, puts on the Juan, gets smacked down, rifles through papers… she’s all over the place… can’t tell to what degree she’s deluded re: making any real headway… I think she’s shellshocked.
Jennifer Wilmington trying to score points coming off stupid ..
Dr
for prosecution holding her own I do believe she intiminates Jennifer a bit…this Dr.
don’t second queasy or write down things like her good witness.glad she is taking up for Travis not throwing it out see if it sticks..
Can anyone please tell me if there is court tomorrow? I can’t remember if the 19th is one of those rare Fridays the judge said they would be in session. Thanks.
no court tomorrow.wish there was none on Monday either..
How do you get the wptv live feed on an iPhone?
Let me know if you figure it out!! I’ve been wanting to watch all week on my iPhone. I can’t watch on my work pc, booooo. Like they want me to WORK or something, geez! Jk
Does anyone else find it odd that Jodi always gets sick on a Wednesday …Alyce also got sick on Wednesday
.seems 2 me they plan it so Defense can close it on Thursday.
Ian aware of this game they play hope the jury is..
And we’re off!
Does Jodi looks like she’s been crying? Her nose is red.
She sure does!
Holy smokes — she looks like a whipped puppy. Awwww….poor Jodi.
Maybe it’s red from growing from all the lying she does every day of her life? Although if that condition were real, she would have a freaking GONZO nose, muppet reference, anyone?? Lol.
Sherry twinkles her nose and we’re BACK!
Hilarious! The bewitched effect… (page what in the plastic surgery catalogue… cuz there’s clearly been work done.)
Now, Jane… Let’s be careful w/ our comments about our friend the Judge. She’s appeared to be fair & balanced enough to avoid being overturned on appeal, but seems to be clearly looking out for TA.
Aimee, you are so right. Apologies all around. I’ve actually grown quite fond of her, and what did Madeleine Albright say: “There’s a special place in Hell for women who don’t support good women.” Go Judge!
Juan reading from a legal pad….NumNums thinking about Twinkies…..
OMG! Almost coughed up a lung over that one!
me too
I just happen to stumble onto this site, and I must say, I love it!! time goes by really fast for me as I’m reading all your comments here, I hope I’m welcomed here and I must say that your blogs are wonderful, and insightful!! IMO I believe that Dr. DeMarte is a REAL professional, and I believe Willmont is attempting to act like JM, which is NEVER going to happen!! I believe she is desperate, and is twisting words so she can trip Dr. DeMarte, and I believe she is losing!!
Welcome, Carmen. 🙂 This heavenly oasis of info keeps my day flying by also. Thanks, Tamara!
So sweet to see the Dr. not only hold her own, but chew the socks off of Wilma. Wow….such composure. Wilma trips herself up when she continues the word games.
I’m back! I was a bit less than forthcoming with y’all yesterday. I knew there was a fair chance that my lawyer would not be able to come today because of a conflicting trial in another county. We rescheduled for May 2.
Looks like I just missed MOTS with the trial. Off to moderate your comments.
Welcome HOME
All for naught??? Oh, boo hoo. So now you have to do this all again. So sorry and I hate to sound childlike (it’s not attractive when you are in your 60’s), but that’s just not fair. At least say it inconvienced She by Sharee,
too.
This is hard to watch – Jennifer is so proud of herself and creating smoke and mirrors. And now charts and scales….. Hope Doctor knocks her down again.
Somebody’s phone went off!!! Travis calling – Hi, Jodi.
Walmart says I know you don’t use these scales, but let’s talk about them anyway, since I did all this %^%ing work on them.
LOL “Let me know when you’re finished.”
LOL…..you should know all about that Ms. Baldspot
God I missed this saucy comment earlier! OMG gold star for the veiled sexual reference!! LOL! (Wait…did I just say…ummm, nah, not me. I never say that to my hubby.).
Did you just call Wimott WALMART..?? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
O my god, Walmart… I can’t take it… I really need to get out more… I’m slaphappy… I need some of JAs 2600 calories… O jeez…
I love that this witness more than holds her own and stays calm and truthful in the face of Yappy Wilma. Juan can take a nap; the Dr.has it in hand.
SO can someone summarize what is going on???
Sounds like Jennifer has quite a bit of hostility, doesn’t she? What a nutjob.
Ain’t it the truth.
Jodi wearing her glasses on top of her head Jackie Kennedy Onassis style!
Jennifer shuts up at last!!! Here comes Juan!
LOL Juan walks right over to the defense table and picks up papers that Baldy forgot to give back….. Baldy is burning.
Woot!!!! Obi Juan, strut yo stuff!
YAY! As Vinny said, “I ain’t got no more use for this witness.” Okay, Wilma’s slightly more well-spoken, but the sentiment’s the same because she didn’t get squat outta Dr. D!
Have we heard before that she stole his ring? Oops cat out of bag.
I don’t remember hearing that either! Go Juan!
Finally! Watching live stream and Juan is back up questioning Dr. Demarte!
WOW….Juan tearing Ms Baldspot a new a–hole by proxy! Good job, sir!
“New A-hole by Proxy”… too good! May have to go right out and use this immediately. Promise to cite my source, Jkindy.
lol all yours, Jane…..give credit to Tamara’s blog! She’s the landlord.
In my head, I am anticipating Juan wrapping up, going up to DeMarte and — ala Cousin Vinny — saying “thank, Dr. DeMarte, you have been a LOVELY (kisses hand), LOVELY (kisses hand) witness!”
LOL expressing the feelings of all of us…….well the thinking people among us.
I am having trouble with my audio fee on live stream, I have switched around but no luck. Right when it is getting really good. Juan is definitely trying to get lots of examples of stalking behaviors in, after 2 -3 side bars, Judge put a stop to it but Dr. D got in something about Jodi stealing Travis’ ring!!!!! In addition to going into his e-mails and deleting some. (the jury knew about the e-mails but I don’t think they knew about the ring). This whole line of questioning has been stopped by the Judge. Wilmott is hot. Juan is on fire – raising his voice to Dr. D. He is trying to calm down. We are back to Dr. Lenore Walker. Dr. D states her scales are still valid and that Jodi is not a battered women. Dr. D is trying to please Juan – knows he is coming on strong. Jodi looks upset and is madly writing notes to Wilmott.
Infuriating, repugnant, disgraceful… throughout Juan’s questioning, the two 12-year-old school girls are having a whispering fest meant to distract. Sickening!
I concur! Disgraceful behavior for an attorney! JW also whispers to JA with her BACK to the jury as they are leaving the courtroom. This is appalling!
hey tiataytay and shellebelle! Sorry for the lack of recaps by me today. I was in court during the morning session. From what I have gleaned it was “Second verse same as the first”, that is more of Willmott trying and failing to discredit the witness. Juan now has the chance to rehabilitate but she doesn’t really need it Juan is just asking a bunch of questions about her assessments to make Willmott look even stupider. I don’t think DeMarte will be on the stand much longer. We will likely get to jury questions next. I don’t expect there to be very many at all. Then Juan will call his next rebuttal witness or rest. If anyone has anything important that happened this morning, please fill me in!
Tamara I surely can’t recap the way you do….but it’s mostly just what you said. Lots of clinical talk and test talk that Jennifer Willmont tried to talk like she knew…but she was mixing everything up. Confusing…..but Dr. Janeen was on top of it.
Thanks JKindly that was a perfect recap. Much appreciated.
I live to serve, ma’am……
I love the fact that the prosecutor is still somewhat “combative” with his own witness — and certainly does not coddle her. I think this is a technically smart move — the jury sees that the prosecutor is trying to get truth, clarity and brevity, cogent responses from everyone equally, to benefit them in their ultimate deliberation.
Juan certainly looks spiffy in his ALL blue ensemble today, folks!
To me, Juan always looks spiffy — but one “objection!” — he never should have colored his hair; that salt and pepper was sexy as hell.
I’ll give ya that one!
Jodi does not look like a happy camper, but mostly she just zones out when Dr. DeMarte testifies all the characteristics supportive of a BPD diagnosis. (And she looks to me like she’s wearing eye shadow — anyone else notice that?) DeMarte is an excellent expert witness (calm, non-defensive, no visible signs of disgust with the questioner or the question, organized, etc.). No bombshells; no “scores” by the defense, only fizzled balloons by Wilmott. Wilmott is way too invested in poor, poor Jodi. She needs to step back and remember that Jodi is a killer. Win, lose or draw — Wilmott is never going to change that.
LOL….I picture Jen standing there in her purple suit with all her balloons out of air and hanging by the strings in her hand…LOL
Great visual! I can see it. And then that pitiful horn blowing three times (like at the end of a fake-sad scene in a live television show — WONK, Wonk, wonk….)
LOL – love it….you get the best thought balloon picture of the day award!
LMAO! comment of the day
Does anyone know how to get live stream on iPhone ?
I use this link on my iPhone
http://www.kpho.com/…/cbs-5-local-live-strea...
DeMarte just got in that Jodi was found hiding behind a Christmas tree (at Travis!). Wilmott jumped up, objected (not within scope of cross, foundation), and immediately asked to approach. Wilmott and Jodi then smiled and giggled at each other. Ugh.
Confirmed at Travis’ house. Jodi showed up unannounced (all examples of efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment, one of the indicators of BPD).
Isn’t this great!!!
Jeneen says Jodi was found hiding behind a Christmas Tree……Baldspot is up like a shot….sidebar….let’s not get too many truthful details in here, gang, it might confuse the jury!!
Info is IN!!!
Yippee! Heard that! The Xmas Tree Fandango gets in!!
She actually slept there after Travis told her not to come over.
Yup! this is better than any TV show going!
Alrighty then! Now it appears that JM is going to enter some of the wierd behaviors of JA that we have known but not the jury. Ex. hiding behind the Christmas tree. Oh, JW, that’s why my mama use to say not to hang your dirty laundry on the clothesline. Dr. D, you are the bomb!
Testify, Sister!!!
Jodi is wearing a crisp white shirt today with no scrunchies in her hair which is actually clean. She looks healthy and is paying attention to the witness. Demarte was just giving examples of Jodi’s issues and mentions that she was found hiding behind a Christmas tree. Willmott objects (beyond the scope) and they approach. Before Willmott has time to get up, Jodi smiles broadly and says thanks. After the sidebar, it appears the objection was sustained. DeMarte give a laundry list of bizarre behavior. Willmott objects again (missed the basis) Stephens overrules… Basically she is going through the borderline symptoms that she finds Jodi meets and continues to list her whackodoodle stuff. Like getting a phone number from a man on the planeride home from the memorial service and calling him right away. Talking about her being a chameleon to match those around her… etc. Joining the Mormon church within two months after meeting Travis. Suicidal ideation…. Through all of this Jodi is communicating with JW with a smile on her face as if they ar eplaying a card game or something trivial.
Willmont doesn’t get a RE X, does she?
Funny how Willmott got it in there that Travis sent Mormons to Jodi. I have Mormons come to my door, yet I do not convert. But then, I am not a borderline personality hell bent on snagging a man..
Short recess, then questions from the jury!
Jaun and the Doctor are ON FIRE!!!
I think Nurmi gets his clothes at Arizona Tent & Awning.
Shout out to Mary Jo: How’re the stitches holding?
Just GREAT, Jane! Thank you for asking! Have been lovin’ your pithy comments! I’m just so thrilled to have found this blog, & I’m sure you are, too.
I was seriously concerned that Arizona Tent & Awning would take you out.
Ok, steady on! 4 days to gargle w/ warm salt water.
Bwahahahahaha! Sorry, I’m being inappropriate. Been hangin out here for a bit, wasn’t sure what post would move me to engage with you all given the fact I fight shyness. That got the best of me. Thanks for lightening things up. And Tamara I hope things went well for you today, I for one appreciate your blog.
As truth fills the room, Jodi retreats to happy place. Furiously coloring yet again.
(Fascinating.)
And this attitude has to be noted by the jury……..
Yep, Jane, but at least she’s not eating the crayons like she did yesterday that made her so sick!
Mary Jo – Jane wants to know how the stitches are holding up. Send me a note, and I will let her know in study hall.
I found her post & replied, Jkindy! hahahaha!
Ahhhh, supplemental calories! See, and I should’ve picked up on that. My dog got sick from eating crayons once (but, put on a brave face and carried in the newspaper just the same.)
Jury questions!!
Quick question because I missed it — was DeMarte allowed to answer that last question (do you have an opinion as to whether the Defendant was abused?) just before the last sidebar??? I didn’t see what happened when they stepped back from the sidebar and whether DeMarte was able to answer.
Yes she was….and she answered NO she was.
I mean NO SHE WAS NOT ABUSED….whew….
No, meaning her opinion is that Jodi was NOT abused? Hoo-haaah!
YUP…..eat that, LaViolette and Samuels!
Thanks. Don’t you hate when a telephone rings or work interrupts the ability to watch the livestream? Damn. Don’t they realize — I AM BUSY HERE!!! (This means, of course, that I won’t be able to do anything on the day that they have closing arguments. Might as well close the blinds, lock the door, turn off the phones, and stock up on something other than Cheetos.) 🙂
haha I was thinking that too puravidacostarica! I care for my senile mother in my home all day, so I have the live stream on my laptop all day, moving it around with us if I have to. I’m gonna ask my sister to take her for half a day for closing arguments because I have to hear every, single word!
Finally was able to watch some of it. Loved that she got in that Jodi was not abused.
As annoying as the sidebars are, they are most likely the only exercise Nurmi gets, so it is probably a good thing.
Watching JA and JW interact just gives me the creeps.
Ick!
OMG…again, you guys make me laugh with that comment about Nurmi. Thank God, Nurmi hasn’t been off his butt, because when he speaks, it takes F O R E V E R for him to ask an entire question. He speaks sooooooo slowly. He is a fathead! And, WHY is he so disrespectful by slumping down in his chair like a middle school kid.
But JW’s high pitched bitchy voice has been driving me crazy…as well, as her imitation of the JUAN.
I agree karon! TOTALLY disrespectful of the Court to be slouching, lazing around like he does! Then schleps up to the judge like its a real effort! I know he tried to get out of defending jodi MANY times…even going so far as to quit the PDs office & go into private practice!! But judge wouldn’t LET him…and ordered his pay to be $225 an hour! Then he was made HODIs assistant when she wanted to go “pro per” (be her own attorney)…but, she failed THAT experiment so badly, Nurmi stepped back in as Lead.
JW actually reached up and moved JA’s hair before the seal came up at the recess. So very inappropriate. They act like this is lunch period at high school and they are best friends. Yucky!!!
JW was probably telling Jodi to quit trying to sweep her bangs to the side like Dr. Demarte, cause that is one of the things the Dr. brought out – about how Jodi copys other people, she mentioned Jodi bleaching her hair and getting implants like her ex-boyfriend’s ex-wife. (I noticed that Jodi smiled when Dr. mentioned her implants. Sick.)
Jodi is looking like she is trying to copy the Dr. wearing makeup all of a sudden, same part, sweeping bangs to the same side.
OHMIGOD I SAW that!!! Disgusting.
And, could Wilmont be the one who maybe, possibly, could have “accidentally” slipped some make up to Jodi before court started?
Jodi seems to have her wrapped around her crooked finger, so I could see this happening.
Yeck!!! I missed the girl-on-girl grooming behavior. Never mind JA’s fear of abandonment – whatever WILL JW do once the trial is over and her bosom buddy is hauled away. (Doesn’t she realize JA’s just using her?!)
Seriously, this has become aa advance level course in countertransference.
And, reeeeeally? Legal counsel gets away w/ doing this peculiar sh_t – right in the court room?
Talk about an absence of boundaries.
A victorious day, nonetheless?
I will be interested to see the demeanor of Bewitched Sherry Stephens when she talks to Dr Janeen.
What a coincidence that when they are talking about weather or not Jodi was being abused, Jodi is once again placing her hand with the crooked finger that she SAYS Travis broke! She always does this when they are talking about the abuse! So transparent!
Eagle Eye!
Ya’ll better not leave me here until Tuesday all alone. I’ll still put up JA posts for discussion on the off days. Tomorrows may be a little late, I feel like I am about to have one of my narcoleptic sleeps….trying to fit it.
TT, I don’t think I can quit ya — you’re too dang good at what you do. XOXO!
Yay! I would be everso lonely. I am going to have to convince all the JA people to start watching housewives. Or maybe we could pick a new show. I am PISSED I forgot to tape Anthony Bourdain’s new show on CNN last Sunday. It doesn’t look like it reruns. I don’t know what I am going to have to give up to watch it, but It’s my current #1 without even seeing the first episode.
The Bourdain was so good. Already hooked!! Food, culture, anthropology, humour… I wanted to tape it, too (… & didn’t.)
MeMyself, that finger thing is such bs. She has it straight much of the time!
Jinny, I’ve seen Juan Martinez, I’ve heard Juan Martinez, you are no Juan Martinez.
LOL….love it!
Here come the questions….
Bears and tigers…..
Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
Hello everyone. I’m new, and this question/statement may have been addressed already…but.. since Jodi had access to Travis’ e-mail, IM, Twitter accounts. Who is to say she didn’t write some of the messages and answer them herself. She seemed to plan/set-up everything else. (YOUR THOUGHTS?)
Thought this, too. And did Travis know she was recording the phone sex tape?
Exactly, smitsa. All along, I’ve thought she’s one of these people who knows how to get in and commandeer someone’s electronic stuff. She masterminded the narrative. I’d stake my life on it. Maybe it’s just too hard to prove? But I’m not sure why it would be… anyone?
I think the metadata would reveal that they were sent from a different IP address, unless of course she did it from Travis’ own electronic equipment. Also, all of the entries are date & time stamped, which is all but impossible to fake. She would’ve had to be planning all of this WAY in advance to pull this off. Good thought though. Made me think for a minute!
You’re right, Aimee. It just feels like JA was in there sending errant messages in Travis’ name. I’m falling down the rabbit hole… (good thing there’s a 4-day break!)
She may not have had access to ‘plant’ emails, etc. but it was said today that she erased emails from his account. Where they able to find those messages? Who they were to or who the message was from?
The next trial that the Justice 4 Travis site is going to cover is the Anfrea Sneiderman trial for being an accomplice in her husband’s murder. That’s in your neighborhood, tt. BTW, the jodiisinnocent site use to be the caseyanthonyisinnocent site.
TT — time to change the title to this blog. “Jodi, we got your number…!”
Okay, I’m stealing this from somebody, can’t remember who:
“Ms. Jodi Arias? Is there a Jodi Arias here? Death row, table for one!”
Doctor is answering questions like a PRO….good job!
uh -oh…can’t fine it…..Num Num must have eaten Exhibit 55
Wow….Jodi looks like she’s ready to pull a knife on someone!
Whatddya mean, FOUR boyfriends????
Ryan Burns
Travis Alexander
Darryl Brewer
Matt McCartney
Goth Guy
Costa Rica guy with same last name of Arias
Not to mention Abe Abdelhadi… Also, how many others has she tried to recruit (read seduce) along the way?
Four, my aunt fanny!
AND, Wilma said four bf’s from age 14 until NOW (meaning age 32). So you mean to tell me she has included the last five years in jail? More like age 15 to 27. Although we may have to include Brian Carr in the boyfriend group. And I still can’t figure out what Donovan Berrington is… Have I missed anyone? Some prison guards, perhaps?
The bailiff.
Oh yes, sorry for the oversight!
wait..are you being snarky or serious? Donovan Berrington is that “pat” person that is rumored to be having an affair with Jodi (since they met in prison) that usually sits right next to Jodi’s mom or sister….isn’t it? She also runs Jodi’s twitter account…or is it really the bailiff’s name and I should stop smoking?
Cam…you aren’t crazy…but I quit smoking cigs after 42 years of pack a day by using ecigs for past 18 months…I’d be glad to help you find the right stuff if you want to try…use my name here…and add @gmail (dot) com. I am Via, I’d be happy to help…
Pardon interruption, everyone.
well bless your heart dear, and thank you. I wasn’t talking about smoking tobacco tho, so no worries. I gave up that vile habit almost 30 years ago.
🙂 that occurred to me AFTER I pressed “send”!! I was a Compassionate Care patient in California, but Florida hasn’t got smart yet! Congrats on 40 years!
To use Danny DeVito’s line from the Lorax movie: “That’s a woman???”.
I understood that Donavan is that “pat” looking creature…she was the one running the twitter account and sitting next to mama arias earlier this week…they interviewed her once (HLN) about the twitter account…
I understood that Donavan is that “pat” looking creature…she was the one running the twitter account and sitting next to mama arias earlier this week…they interviewed her once (HLN) about the twitter account…strange woman…she was in jail for arson!
More Baldspot……boring…..
DOne for the day….back on Tuesday!!!
Just a wee note here — I have not been able to follow “live” today and I have come here for updates. Thanks to each of you who have given such great report and commentary.
You all do a great job on here and I am quite grateful! Thank you.
You’re very welcome, Dlister. My pleasure (tho I didn’t report much except fluff)!
XOXO to you, Ms Mary Jo!
Oh, but you don’t have to miss a thing! I’ve been watching it all here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/croakerqueen123?feature=
croakerqueen rocks. I keep trying to tell her to put ads on her tubes..
Love croakerqueen! Indebted to her!
Yes! 😀
Miss Tamara! Thanks for the use of the hall!!!
See y’all on Tuesday!
Bye Jkindy – you were SMOKIN’ today! See ya Tuesday, indeed.
Not to be rude or offend anyone. But I’ve read. Few comments that talk about jodi having makeup on. Am I crazy. I just don’t see this. I’ve been watching since day one and the only thing I’ve noticed different is that she appears to be getting skinnier. Some days she looks sickly too. But I don’t see the makeup. I know she trying to look all little kidding and innocent so I don’t see why she would try to change that and wear any makeup. Oh well just my odd ball comment for the day
Different monitor and phone settings make things look different….so that could be why some of us see it and some of us don’t
Agree with your assessment. JA wants to downplay herself, poor pale little me, I need to look completely invisible. If JA was using makeup, it would be really obvious, especially if she wanted to divert attention from any witnesses that were better looking than her like Dr. D. I also doubt she has access to makeup in prison, but I may be wrong about this. Even so, she can always use her crayons. (I’m ready for my close~up Mr. DeMille!).
I totally agree, Sandra. But, something was going on yesterday morning. I wouldn’t have thought,,, yet, then, there she was looking rather blended & polished – translucent powder or something. Her skin tone (pre-lunch break, mind you) was more finished… and, then, post-lunch – presto-chango – red, ruddy, raw, splotchy, glasses. Again, I wouldn’t have thought… but I watched, again. I think there some sort of high jinx yesterday. But, hell, who knows.
Wouldn’t put it past her as a master manipulator. People like her assume the rest of us are all stupid and she is smarter than anyone else. Usually this kind of arrogance trips them up.
I’m a bit confused (& curious) re: what an incarcerated defendant is & isn’t allowed access to. We hear one thing, but, then, observe (over time) something different when it comes to the leeway granted JA. Seems to be a give-an-inch-they-take-a-mile situation going on… Who knows/who cares, I suppose… but, still, kind of intriguing & makes me wonder how less glamourized defendants fare. A starker, more rigid experience… O how the Hollywood trappings (costume & accessory changes, parts to play, layers of audience) must feed her psychosis. She’s in for one huge depression, when the lights go out on this, i’d think.
As long as there is an audience, she will put on a performance.
Sandra — thanks for reminding me that I would LOVE to watch that film again! Sunset Boulevard, I think it’s called. That was really an amazing, riveting film!
Nora Desmond rides again!
Jane:there are many variables! My cousin was incarcerated for a while, in Iowa. What might be allowed in one prison is r allowed in another, depends on who is the warden, and at what point you might be in the system. One can only buy items from the commissary. Mom can’t bring your favorite shampoo! Arias may be allowed make up because she is in mid-trial…other prisons might allow makup (commissary) (no Estée or Clinique ) that’s also why her lawyers cannot give her food! Medicine, new glasses, etc, are provided by state/county. A visitor can give you a gift of a book. But it must be delivered from amazon or other retailer..you can’t just hand a book over. Magazines must be by subscription. Of course. You could s few up, and lose priveledges. In fact, in some jails, you can get into trouble for being “sick” too often. It’s no picnic!!! All of the above rules were a sampling of what I could remember . Also, I wrote and mailed a letter to my cousin on e. she was reprimanded because I did not put my FULL name on the return address!!! And I just signed it with my first name. That jail required full signature, address and phone number at end of letter. His mom might drive 400 miles to see him, but, rules are rules!! NO TOUCHING. A s only 2 hours!
I look TERRIBLE in stripes or behind bars! (That’s why all exes still live in Texas. Forgive spelling..iThing messing with me!
Yeah, and those Dior creation orange jump suits are to die for (really).
Thanks, Vocalvapor…Tell me, though: what explains JA’s parade of eyewear. Doesn’t she appear to have a pair to match each Walmart blouse (and she’s forever fiddling & adjusting as if she’s totally unaccustomed to them.) In view of what you describe, I’m thinking defense council & defendant, once at the courthouse, might push the envelope and get away with as much as they can… maybe i’m just too influenced by all the cosy cousin behavior between the Js at the defense table. I picture the two of them painting each others toenails.
And I hear ya. Avoiding unflattering ensembles is all the incentive I personally need to keep my murderous rage in check.
Hi Jane! If you go here:
http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseSearch.asp
You can see that the judge ordered the sheriff to take JA to the eye doctor to get glasses…(Lions Center, not Wally-world)
She had better LOVE those derned glasses…my cousin told me that when his gLasses got broken, the prison “allowed” him to go through a box of OLD glasses to find a pair that would work for him. They WEREN’T spending their budget on new glasses for a CONVICT!!
She is in a “special situation” because she is in “the process” and the court will “bend over backward” to ensure she has everything she needs so that she can “assist her counsel” so she gets a fair trial! Can you imagine getting a conviction overturned because the defendant “couldn’t see” or “read important documents” during her murder trial???
Having recently purchased glasses myself…I can tell you that her frames aren’t “designer”…and she’s too young for bifocals, so she has “single vision” lenses…there are places here in my town that offer “2 pair for $79″…that would easily be a possibility. And, I suppose mama Arias COULD have bought her an extra pair.
But she had better enjoy her hours of being a fashionista…Cousin says a prisoner (in the prison HE was in) was only allowed ONE pair of glasses…(NO contacts)…and that he was only allowed to own what could be contained in one of those cardboard “file box”…a prisoner MUST be able to carry everything he owns HIMSELF, in one trip!
He says jodi is in COUNTY jail, NOT STATE PRISON…two different animals! Didn’t her mother say that she was “happier than hell” in jail? Sure! She’s been in the middle of a slumber party with a bunch of petty criminals…when she goes to live with “the big girls”….(and doesn’t have that threat of not getting a fair trial to drop on the judge) she won’t be so giddy!!
Really appreciated this (perhaps I should tell you tomorrow on tomorrow’s blog). Two things, in particular, clarify things for me: 1) the fact that JA’s currently “in the process” & 2) that she’s currently in county jail as opposed to state prison. So. she’s still in something of a “special treatment” phase (not to mention the stimulation of appearing before her audience on a daily basis and being gushed over by def council and getting to attempt seducing Juan and listen to him say graphic sexual things and…)
Your “slumber party” analogy is perfect! So much more accurate in JA’s case than saying “honeymoon period.” Huge wake up call when the slumber party’s over!
Thanks, vocalvapor! (Are the water cigarettes available in Canada?)
Yes, Jane, e-cigarettes ARE available to our Northern Siblings!! Just google “cigarettes Canada” and you will find a place to begin. If you need further help, just contact me.
I usually don’t notice changes in makeup but I did think Jodi had eye shadow on the other day. I hear what you’re saying about her trying to look innocent, but I really think Jodi has traded on her “allure” for so long that she thinks she has a better chance trying to seduce the jury than getting them to pity her. She’s obviously got Wilmott under her spell-she’s going for broke!
I think you’re onto something, cammierari. The mere fact that those of us, who ordinarily wouldn’t have much interest in cosmetics, are fascinated suggests to me that whoever’s advising is tremendously naive & has allowed JA to be hoisted on her own petard. I saw a made up face & a scrubbed face back-to-back on the same day (yesterday) – blatant changes, compared to the flesh tones of others around her under the same lighting & camera conditions.
It seems a foolish strategy, indeed, to have a defendant with probable borderline personality disorder play the full range of characters in court that she played in life. And over the course of the trial, she’s essentially rapid-cycled through each & every one – for all to see. Illustrates the prosecution’s point. Might have been a better plan to have struck one consistent, stable, inconspicuous, unprovocative note? Instead, we’ve seen a real fandango of visual antics at that defense table. Faulty judgment.
Cammierari & Jane: arias is a real study in Abnormal Psychology, isn’t she? From her ever changing hairstyles….like parting her hair on the right, and letting it hang over her face like Cousin It (according to Donavan, a suggestion by Matt McCartney, he seemed to think that she should hide her face from the jury, so they wouldn’t see her cry), to the stringy, greasy look (I suppose we were SUPPOSED to feel compassion for her because she and her new BFFs all have to shower together!) (oh! MAYbe when she was hiding PENS in her SHAMPOO, INK got I to the SHAMPOO!!!!) to her “I’m going to KINDERgarden NOW!!” look, pulled off to one side, or to the back and held by a rubber-band (the little girl next door wears HER hair like THAT!) and finally, her “I’m smarter & prettier than Dr DeM” look….the ONLY copy cat style she HASN’T tried is the “I part my hair on the bald-spot” look….of course, when your hair dressers are the intelligent types that you would find in the County Jail…you only have SO much to work with….
Her clothing is a mess…not even a HOT mess, just a mess! I suppose the TOO BIG blouses are to disguise her boob job…(don’t want her looking like a blonde bombshell, right??)…and even before she decided to look anorexic, her pants looked like they came from Nurmi’s “charity pile”…maybe to fit around the Shock Belt? Speaking of that…why would they need to put a shock belt on her? They SURELY patted her down and checked for knives before the start of each day, right?
Most attorneys make sure their client is dressed as nicely as possible…arias is dressed like she’s ready to “vacuum, mop, and be sure to get the windows this time!” A blue blazer over at the thrift store wouldn’t cost more than $10 or so…if *I* knew that this might be the LAST days of my life that I could wear something OTHER than STRIPES or Prison-day-Glo-Orange….*I* would be dressing to the NINES!!!! We have all SEEN PHOTOS of her dressed NICELY in clothing that FITS!!! But of course, what *I* would do….as a (more or less) sane person, who wants my DH to live a nice, long life…a SANE person, who won’t even spank the new puppy with a newspaper (let alone KICK it (to death?)) is PROBABLY MUCH different than what a CONFESSED KILLER might do!
The defense team has taken us down a rabbit hole…we’ve done nothing (for how many weeks?) but discuss whether she was called a 3-hole wonder…and crucify travis Alexander!!! We’ve been taken SO FAR ASTRAY of the BASICS…she stabbed travis TWENTY EIGHT TIMES (not counting wounds to hands and feet and ankles), SLIT HIS THROAT, shot him in the HEAD…and then left him to decompose in his own shower because…BECAUSE he WOULDN’T take HER to CANCUN!!!!
(Did it hit anyone else when she said “after I shot him (in he head), he GOT MAD”??
No SH.T, SHERLOCK!!! I’m afraid I would be pretty PISSED, too…and I might do more than say “I’m going to kill you!”
Sorry…I’m ranting again!!
She is GUILTY as H3LL!!!!
haha I loved reading every word of that rant.
Jodi’s statement did hit me when I heard it, because it made no sense. Didn’t she say that the reason she shot Travis in the first place was because he was mad? She made a similar, telling statement at another point in her testimony, and I’m going to rack my brains to think of it before I go to bed.
Okay im confused maybe i have her testimony wrong, but didnt she say after he body slammed her she got up ran and got the gun (and he was behind her) then she ran back to the bathroom to shoot him? how did she get passed him if he was right behind her? and how did she shoot him in the bathroom if he was near her in the closet? im so confused, does anyone have it right???
Tori-the closet had 2 entrances. Jodi ran thru one, into the closet, where she grabbed the gun and continued out thru the other door, which brought her into the bathroom….I think. That part of the trial seems so long ago! Maybe that’s the point of all this defense stalling.I am so looking forward to Juan’s closing argument.
OHHH ok ok , the two entrances , i guess “i get it” now !
Demarte did an excellent job answering the jury’s questions. Her answers were so professional and she explained things so concise that even a non medical professional like me can understand.
I especially liked when the jury asked about the crude test answers that Dr. Foghorn Samuels hand wrote Jodi’s answers in pencil on.
Demarte said that is not the way it should be done and afterward Wilmont tried to explain that it would be ok if the original answer book was not available and the answers were accurately transfereed onto the answer sheet?
That was sooooooooooo dumb on Wilma’s part! It just reminded me (obviously the Jury didn’t forget) that Dick Samuels was so unprofessional so as not to even have the damn answer book when he was administering the test to Jodi!
I think that baldspot on Wilma is where her brains have leaked out.
Exactly! (Re: both The Dick Fiasco and Baldspot.)
I think that the Dr’s confident, unflappable professionalism, combined w/ her willingness to concede appropriately, made for highly respectable, effective testimony. She made the other two old goats look like dregs from Central Casting.
I suspect LaVaLamp is on the SNL story board as we speak & will soon debut as a regular character (a la Palin.) Only suitable fate.
OMG……………..You guys are killing me…I’m laughing so hard that I can’t see and I just peed my pants…hahaha lol……………..wilma’s bald spot..omg…ah sh*t that’s funny…not sure which is funnier; that or the nicknames for Nurmi..anyone notice he’s a little blind..when he reads the paper has to be touching his nose …you guiys are great
More stalking behavior! Jodi hiding behind Travis’s Christmas tree and then STEALING Travis’s engagement ring. . . .
Thank you Dr. Demarte for exposing these fascinating facts that the defense tried very hard to keep hidden!
Add that to slashing tires, sneaking in through doggie door, hacking e-mail and Facebook accounts = big time stalking, IMO. Travis had every right to call her every name in the book!
I was really hoping she could slip the rest of those in somehow also. Hopefully the jury got the picture that there is a lot they don’t know about her stalking behavior!
OMG! Thought I was the only one (besides HLN) who was obsessed with this trial, and just found this blog. Insightful, hilarious comments, too!
I have a question: the jury question about being attacked by a bear vs. a tiger…..didn’t that question strike anyone as pro-defense?? It only takes one, and the one who wrote that worries me.
I thought the same thing!!
I also thought that right away. It sounded to me like they disagreed that PTSD depends on the triggering event. Either that or they just plain don’t understand all the dialogue that goes on since a lot of it is intelligent and they use big words! Throughout the whole trial there appears to be one juror, IMO, who submits pretty stupid questions. I think it’s the same one who asks things like “Do you classify their relationship as a love-hate relationship?” not to just one witness but two! What significance is that? Hopefully, that one doesn’t get picked to deliberate.
Probably the same one that asked if the police investigated the room mates as suspects. REALLY? She confessed!
Does anyone else think that Alyce LaViolette might be so vehemently opposed personally to the death penalty, that she will say or do anything to save the life of Jodi Arias?
As for me, I could give Arias the “injection” myself, and sleep like a baby. That woman is the spitome of evil!!
As a newbie / observer to TT – find myself, so looking forward to your JA dish. I think JW – IS splashing color on Jodi. We know JW and KN [he reminds me of Snuffle Uff Igus – his other Sesame St. name] stays up late to watch HLN. How else are they going to make Jodi look like she’s alive. I mean, LOOK @ at HER …she looks like Dracula’s daughter…! Creepy hands and all ! Maybe Narcisiss is finally staring into a mirror that see’s no reflection – Just Travis’ eyes starring back…….!!!!!!
Snuffaluffaguss (exactly HOW is that spelled?!) is good, but Nurmi reminds me of Grimace, the Mcdonald’s character. But I don’t want to offend Grimace by the comparison…
Ha, Murphy… My German Shepherd “Strider” just confirmed it – Your correct – Grimace IS more like it – He’s police trained for the trial – one bark = not guilty – two barks = guilty !! I’m working on him for 1st degree ! Even he has “Jodi Fatigue” :-0
I haven’t yet read through all the comments so someone else may have commented about this. One of the jurors asked DeMarte about JA saying “Mark my words. No one will ever convict me!” DeMarte said, “Yes, this shows self esteem….” JA nodded her head slightly and said right? Did that not go against what Willmott has been harping about for 2 days!!?
I have been trying to find out from every site and on the news if anyone has mentioned that Jodi may have put the camera in the washer by mistake ?? She was said to have used the towels and cloths in an attempt to clean up her mess, the camera has been proven to be on the floor, pictures taken by mistake prove that. I think in her haste to cover her horrific crime, she didn’t even know the camera was wrapped in with the towels ?? I have done this with items myself. And in her haste to take everything else, gun, knife and her luggage, even though she was in a fog!!! I really don’t think she even thought of the camera until it was to late. Any thoughts ?
Petlover, I think if she intended to bring the camera with her she would not have stopped long enough to delete the pictures. And it would have taken some time because this was TA’s new camera and not her camera so it would have been a bit different.
Then I thought the fact that this was not her camera may have made her rethink leaving it in case she did not delete the pictures correctly so she then decided to take it with her. And, as you said, in her rush it got wrapped up in the towels, etc. and put in the washing machine and she zoomed on out and didn’t think about it until it was too late. But, then she figured the bleach and the washing cycle took care of the pictures.
Don’t you know she was surprised to discover the cops had retrieved most of those pictures??
Rose…if her IQ was really all THAT high, she would have just removed the memory card from the camera…didn’t need to put it in the washer, or delete the pics…and then throw the darned thing into a campfire and watch it melt. Like, DUH!
Rose, thanks for the reply. Even if she stood up and told why she put the camera in the washer, how could anyone believe her, the lies come easier than the truth to her. But her high IQ can’t help her keep the lies straight. It was fate that the camera was found and the pictures recovered, someone was truly helping make sure that hopefully justice will be found.
About the camera , It was Travis’ camera. She deleted the pics and in doing so I believe she saw she had gotten blood all over it from her cut finger and threw it in the wash for that reason, knowing her frame of mind using cups of water to clean up blood in the hallway. It was Travis’ way of speaking from the grave .
For The Win: an ice cold starbucks mocha frappiccino…
The name of the FINAL rebuttal witness….
Ready?????
Matt McCartney…
The guy who would “never betray me”…when arias said her friend, Matt McCartney “blah blah” mr Martinez said “well, that’s not what he said in JANUARY….”
Me thinks perhaps “never betray me” doesn’t include doing time as an accessory-before-the-fact…..hummm?
FABULOUS!
i am crossing my fingers for that
Does anyone think that the court will grant the defense’s surrebuttal request?