The Jodi Arias trial begins today with a mysterious hearing. It is possible it will take the entire morning as the judge dismissed the jury for the morning session but asked them to be on standby to come in earlier. At the end of court last Friday, the judge ordered Grace Wong, a producer for HLN’s Jodi Arias trial segments, to appear at 11 am. Grace is smiling in the picture but sources inside the courtroom say she was shocked and not happy about being compelled to testify. We are expecting some sort of arguments first when court begins at 9, or 9:30, or 10, or well you get the picture. The prevailing opinion here is that the last motion for mistrial by the defense for prosecutorial misconduct (Juan taking pictures and giving autographs to his fans) is still open. When Jinkasaurus testifying about the situation, she answered a question with something like “that is beyond the scope of my job” and thus the defense wanted to call Wong, the producer, who was not at the courthouse at that time. Since Wong was in the courtroom Friday, it seems like they took that opportunity to compel her to testify.
When the jury returns the defense is expected to call Lonnie Dworkin I believe. I could be wrong about that so don’t freak out if someone else is called. But I’m pretty sure it is Dworkin. Click through for a refresher on him and the only thing I can imagine the defense recalling him for.
Dworkin previously testified that he had examined Alexander’s laptop and a broken hard drive that might have belonged to Jodi. He testified that data from Alexander’s laptop showed that someone accessed YouTube music videos at 4 a.m. on June 4, 2008 about the same time Jodi claims to have arrived. Willmott tried to admit photos of a man’s genitalia Dworkin recovered from the external hard drive. Martinez objected on the grounds that Dworkin could not identify whose genitalia it was. Dworkin also examined a Helio phone that Gus Searcy gave Jodi. At the time he got the info from Jodi’s Helio, there was no technology for retrieval so he took screen caps and used a recorder. He also was the guy that retrieved the photos from her Canon camera. One of those pictures was the Travis Alexander’s underwear set from July 12, 2008 (after Travis was murdered). Another was a picture of Jodi and her sister Angela supposedly taken in May of 2008 where Jodi has brown hair. This relates to Jodi Arias Hairgate which for the life of me I can’t keep up with. I have no idea what Dworkin is being called back to testify to unless he has managed to somehow positively identify Travis’ penis. I’m serious. A positive identification of Travis’ peen could lead to the defense proving he sent a penis pic to Jodi. Which of course would make him just another douchebag penis pic sender a sexual deviant who deserves to die.
A huge shout out to all the new trial watchers reading here! We are so glad to have you. We will be talking about todays court activities in comments all day and always try to give important news on the proceedings to our friends who can’t watch at work but can read here. So anytime you can give a brief bit of context to your comment, my hard working commenters really appreciate it. Happy posting!
Maybe it’s about WHEN the peen shot was sent (did I really just type that?) and if it happened during a time the prosecution claims Jodi was the stalker/main pursuer?
What? What do pics of peen prove? He is still dead.
BTW, while it is just us oldbies in here, I’d like to take this moment to point out that if I am wrong about the whole peen thing, then eleventy billion (give or take) new trial watchers that are here now will mock me to the ends of the earth. I will probably be know and that crazy chick who we all thought was really interesting that one day and then she outed herself as a complete pervert by talking about a dead guys penis on her blog.
So, um there is that.
But if I am right, then I am a goddamned genius with a keen grasp of the case.
So Imma need all of y’all to pray to your personal Jesus’ tonight that we see some peen in court tomorrow. I know I can count on you. Thanks.
I , for one, have your back. (Perv or not).
Ok just said a small prayer for peen tomorrow. Now I feel like a perv for that statement lol
No you are probably right. Even if we don’t end up seein it I bet they are gonna try to include it.
Peen prayer done. I’ve got a good feeling about it. Also worked some “the secret” mojo.
I have been obsessed with this case before it ever went to trial and I have spent an absolutely embarrassing amount of time on the Internet machine looking into it. I can honestly say that your blog has some of the most interesting, updated, insightful, and just plain DISHY posts and commentary I have seen thus far. I am definitely here to stay–keep up the good work for all of us!
Ok, Miss Tam, against my better judgement, I prayed that you would get the peen you wanted. (just wondering if the other lady readers in my age bracket (>60) feel like I do, basically: “big deal, yet ANOTHER peen! Ho-hum! Yawn!”)
I’ve often wondered, over the years, exactly WHY men seem to think that ladies LIKE looking at their peen? They AREN’T pretty…some are downright UGLY!!! I once asked a fellow that I met on a dating site to “send me a photo”…and he sent me a peen pic…like THAT was going to help me identify him in the crowded sports bar we were going to meet at. Anyone that can explain this to me will have my undying appreciation…
And since we’ve gone THIS far…one OTHER thought for discussion…Hodie was SO proud of her Brazilian….and Travis “liked it that way”….I’m wondering if there is any correlation between a Brazilian and a “12-year old girl”….seems to me that au natural is certainly a sign of a “mature” female…and “neckked” is pre-pubescent. (As a “survivor” of child molestation, I have always been a bit leery of men who are “______” (disgusted, turned off, fill in the blank) by a pubic area looking like a pubic area, and not an underage child.). But, maybe that is just my own mixed up experience.
(Just HOW did THIS conversation HAPPEN???). Perhaps brought on by the gynecological photos shown of Hodi….I DO wonder if her head would explode if the peen pic HAD been sent to someone else!!!
This post is useless without pics. 🙂
I will pray for Travis’ peen. (On a serious note, maybe a mistrial is a good thing for Jodi haters. They will almost certainly re-try her and the prosecution knows exactly what is coming. Plus you might get a sentient judge.)
I think its totally irrelevant re: the murder. JA committed the butchery, her palm print in blood was on the wall. Anything else is superfulous fluff and an effort by the defense to detract from the mian issue here at trial- did she premeditate the crime- yes- to those who can put 2 brain cells together- was it indifferent to human life and a mailicous murder- yes. Its a matter of time- we are at the defense’s “kitchen sink” defense phase; or as I refer to it as “throw anyhting at the wall and see if it sticks. Just a matter of how much time or whether she’ll get the much deserved death penalty -which is set aside for the most heinous of crimes- which this is.
Sorry to intrude on you old buddies and all but this has me lmfao. I too shall pray for peen, but just this once. I just discovered your blog Tamara and have since been gobbling it up like Nurmi with a stack of double cheese burgers.
Same here re just finding this blog. I love RHWives, too, so you all may never get rid of me. I don’t know re peen being on the agenda for tomorrow, but it should make for interesting testimony. Well, at least entertaining testimony.
I think it may also be about Ms. Wong hearing Alyce LaViolette saying that “it wasn’t personal” (or words to that effect) to Travis’ sister.
Got to get some sleep so I can lay in some supplies for the week. Don’t want to be at the grocery store and miss any peen identifications. Thanks . MJ
I for one pray for peen often. Just kidding. Mostly.
Here is a video from 12 News who originally talked to Juan Martinez and was the reason why he exited the front of the courthouse the day he did. It sounds like this should clear up any issue regarding the defense’ request for a mistrial, however they should contact 12 News; not HLN or CNN.
http://www.azcentral.com/video/2261149720001
Exactly, osabung… seems to me 12 News set this one in “motion.”
New to the post (hilarious), &, re: “try[ing] to avoid cute bastartization[s],” please don’t!! “Jinkasaurus” – very helpful! On exam day, I will, now, get at least one fill-in-the-blank correct.
As for possible peenie pic… Jeez, do these two win the prize for trite, dim-witted sex play?! French Maid, Schoolgirl, the whore thing, bum-bum entry, bungled wrist binding, car hoods, freeway off ramps, badly scripted phone sex, artLESSly posed nude shots, sloppy brazillian, a movie scene rip-off (spidy undies)… O, fine, throw in a peen pic. The whole thing is so adolescent, passe, uninspired, tedious…
Yet, this gal (now, trotting out the librarian cliche) thinks she’s the cat’s ass of erotica?!
Now, me an Jane, we are going to get along fine. 🙂 I mean who bungles bondage?
there have been so many mistrial motions but i thought kn filed one against JM for being too hard on lav causing her trip to the er. Then later last week said er trip was because of people stalking her and being meanies with blogs? Didnt kn put chris hughes on subpeona to testify so he would not talk about gun video?
Objection. Foundation. We dont know how many penis’s he has identified before
Ha!
lol !!!!!!
Uh, what if they find out that the peen pic was NOT sent to Jodi but to a different woman? . . . Then watch Jodi get a pissed off look on her face just like she did when Laviolette said Jodi “isn’t smart enough” to cheat one of those psychological tests! That was so priceless.
Oh I want a screen shot of that face she made, I missed it!!! She’s worried about the world thinking she’s not smart enough, but she should be worried about that last prickly needle.
She’s daydreaming that she can start a new life with a rich man to pay her for her pleasures, which IMHO probably weren’t that great anyway, why else would TA look for a Godly woman? Jodi wasn’t. Girls hooch out around town in every city, figure out what kind of relationship it really is and move on. They change and get a clue how to be a real woman who values herself in every aspect. She was controlling to the T. She only wrote things in her journal to feel better about herself, even lying within her inner most thoughts, SICK and definitely not SMART.
Although I’m not new to the trial, I am new to your blog and love the little dash of humor in your posts:)
I was just reading over Jodi’s failed attempt at offering a plea in 2011 and noticed Nurmi refers to her relationship with Travis as “chaotic” and “unhealthy”.
http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/jodiariasngfile.pdf Interesting that there’s nothing about it being a highly abusive relationship. They claim they can get self defense because Travis told Jodi to get out of his life and called her names but still nothing specifically saying abuse. Just found that interesting!
I read it, it does say abuse. It’s basically a “we’re fighting dirty” memo.
Yes, you’re right it does at the top part, I missed that. And a “we’re fighting dirty” memo is a perfect description! She’s warning the Alexander family that they’re going to be dragged through the mud…what a horrible person she is.
nice find, thanks. “ms marias concludes 2nd degree murder….” makes the most sense.. “won’t be convicted of death…cares about the family…” well at least her narcissism remains constant if nothing else!
I think Chris Hughes was put on defence witness list so he couldn’t be in courtroom and/or watch proceedings. And, of course, not able to talk about any aspect of the case. Unfortunate because defence has used e-mails, etc. between the Hughes’ against Travis, without having to call him to the stand. I wonder if JM can call him in rebuttal to give context to those e-mails? I missed first part of the trial so was unaware of the peen issue. Sure would make for an interesting if it did come up! (Pun intended. :).
I am watching YouTube of Friday’s testimony of Alyce. When Martinez was questioning Laviolette about what she answered in response to the jury asking about Jodi being manipulative, and Alyce is again, beating around the bush, acting like she doesn’t understand the question, etc.
Martinez is asking her a hypothetical question of what if, it came to her attention 2, 3 or 4 years after Travis’ killing that Jodi had lied about another event. Wilmott jumps up and objects again, may we approach? Then, Alyce has a chance to sit there and come up with an answer! I believe that this is why there are so many sidebars instigated by Wilmott. She is giving Alyce more time to try to come up with a good answer to his questions.
This questioning took place after Martinez got Alyce to admit that she didn’t actually testify for any men in a criminal case. She is backed into a corner now and has no way out.
Btw – sorry for using “context”! We sure have heard that word used ad nauseum that last few days. 🙂
i just want to hear the def qualify him as an expert pecker checker
I always love me some peen, preferably the real 3D version and not a photo.
My take on this Monday mornings events are this: the previous Defense motion for mistrial, is why Ms Wong is being called to court. I believe the Judge will decide on the Mistrial motion, and thusly wanted the jurors to be by their phones at 10 – 1030, in order to call them if is she declares a Mistrial in favor of the Defense. Secondly, I believe there may be two or three issues regarding ALV..I.e. she allegedly approached a family member of TAs during an ongoing trial. If there is a Victims Rights Law in Arizona, she broke the law; secondly, I believe that based on possible Bias, Inconsistently and/or Inconsistency, Ms ALV has been impeached and or thirdly possibly committed Perjury. I suspect that JM will be presenting those things to the Judge. The only odd thing about that, tho, is that ALV won’t be in Court this morning. Unless I misunderstood her, the Judge said ALV is still under supeona and could come either Monday or Tuesday…thoughts, anyone?
Wasn’t the previous Defense motion for mistrial based on alleged prosecutorial misconduct. I thought that Ms Wong was the producer of the segment that was on HLN, showing JM “Rock Star” status, signing autographs and taking pictures with fans outside the courtroom ONE day. Was she also involved with AL speaking to TA’s sister?
Good Gawd, I hope they don’t declare a mistrial! I’ve spent the last 3 months watching (I’m addicted) 9 hours per day, and I can’t afford to spend another 4 months watching a new trial!
If there is a new trial, all of us JM fans will get to see more of him in action.:)
Yes but I don’t think that was ever adjudicated by the Judge (defense motion for Mistrial). I’m simply speculating and have no info to support it…it’s just that the Judge told Grace Wong to be there, bring her attorney if she wanted, and that they would be in court at 930…see trial part 3 Day 46..at the very end of the day Friday..I have no clue if Ms Wong is there for the Defense Mistrial motion (prosecutorial misconduct) or the Victims Right issue
I love when two people who have not read the post or the comments just drop in to ponder about what could possibly be going on as if they were not sitting smack in the middle of all the information they are wondering about.
Oddly it happens a lot. It’s like standing in a line at a lemonade stand wondering aloud if there is anywhere to buy something to drink nearby…
Tamara, your last blog with the hundreds of comments does have a lot of info and questions contained therein. But the problem for people coming late to that one is not everyone has the time to read hundreds of comments. I’ve been reading along but have missed more than a few because it has gone so fast. You have complained yourself that it’s been very difficult for you to keep up.
I know it’s hard to ride such an onslaught of commentary, so I get why you’re irritated. Once upon a time on WordPress we could turn the commentary section off, as well as set the number of days before it automatically is turned off. Perhaps that’s an option you could explore to manage this if it’s too much.
At any rate, you’re experiencing such an influx because it’s so easy to join the convo here and it is well-monitored, unlike some public forums. Just some thoughts, and thanks for all the time and energy you’ve put into this.
It’s not against the law for witnesses to approach one another. I don’t think it’s that.
It is against the law in AZ for witnesses to approach the victim, or in this case, the victims family. ALV should certainly have known that, and I’m sure that Travis’ sister was disgusted that she would approach her and say “It’s not personal”. You can bet Travis’ family thinks it’s personal!
In my state and many others, there is A Victims Rights Law, which among other things, protects all victims of crimes from being approached during an on going trial..don’t know about Arizona..ALV stated on the stand during a Jurors question, that it was illegal for her as a witness to contact the family of TA… Neither attorney objected. So assume there is something valid about that….ALV allegedly approached one of TAs family members during a Courtroom break
I meant to say bias, inconsistency and/or lack of qualifications….
I’m from Canada, don’t have a TV and won’t get the You Tube coverage on
my tablet until tomorrow (if I pray hard). I’m depending on you .
I posted above before I read the above story or the other comments…Penis shots…really? Are we not beyond this yet???!!! I thought the Defense was calling back in, the expert tech guy to re verify and testify that the voice on the sex tape is truly Travis’ voice. This all seems redundant to me..hasn’t the Jury by their questions, indicated that, even if they believed ALV’s and Aries stories about the broken finger, a slap, a shove and a choke, that they feel the perpetrator of the greatest domestic violence is indeed Jodi Aries??!!!
That was one of the Jurors questions last week…not word for word, just paraphrasing..
‘THY SHALL NOT KILL!’ -AN [UNARMED] PERSON!
BOOK: ‘LAW OF ATTACTION’ – IF, IF, IF TRAVIS YELLED AT MS.J FOR DROPPING THE CAMERA, ONE WOULD ASSUME THAT ‘THE LAW OF ATTRACTION’ RULES, WOULD DICTATE A FORGIVING RESPONCE, NOT AN ‘ASSASSINATION’ OF MR. TRAVIS ALEANDER!
Don’t we ALL get it by now? They were into sex, and why not? They were both young and single and alive. But, now there is only 1 person to tell the tale and no one, not even the jury, is buying her story. Who cares??? Somehow, JW and KN have it in their head that if they tell us enough sexcapdes of Travis and Jodi we’ll like her better. NOT!!!
If judge was seriously considering a mistrial motion on Monday, would she need to have LaV back on Tuesday? I think she has the juror’s on standby in case the issue with Wong doesn’t take as long as expected.
I’m sure the jury has it figured out by now. Travis meets bombshell blonde at business meeting. Blonde senses he’s a good catch. Converts to Mormonism in a nano-second in order to be marriage material. They enjoy kinky sex together, go on a few trips. He realizes he’s never going to marry her, but continues with the mutually enjoyable sex. They never live together, but have an on/off long distance “relationship” based solely on sex. He decides he’s had enough of her. They “break up”, but – she moves to Mesa. The sex continues, but he sees other, more marriageable women. She stalks, spies on him, continues the sex in order to “win him back”. When she realizes she can’t afford to live in Mesa and he’s not going to help her financially, she moves to Grandma’s house in California. Phone sex continues, she tapes it, tries to blackmail him with it – he calls her a liar, a sociopath and the worst thing that’s ever happened to him. She drives 1000 miles to viciously murder him. End of story.
You’ve summed it up in a nutshell!
ive always thought if ja loved him sooo much this would have been murder/suicide. This crime is all hate…the trial too.
Anyone have info on coke paraphenalia in the mirror of teen photo of Jodi and boyfriend? No mention in this trial of possible drug involvement. travis sounded stoned to me in phone calls and remember Jodi grew pot as a 14 yr old.
He didn’t sound stoned on the phone call to me. To me, he sounded sleepy. One’s voice gets deep, their thoughts begin to trail off, etc….as far as coke or drugs – even lying Jodi stated that Travis didn’t even drink Coke-Cola or have anything with a stimulant in his house. So, I don’t know where you got the idea of drugs from?
Just for fun we should talk about ZZjagp since clearly they don’t read anything and just show up to mention things we have been talking about in excruciating detail for three days now. Or the rest of us, seeing how annoying it is can start being extra vigilant to actually read the thoughts of others and not just use the site for a personal dialogue with ourselves.
Countdown til ZZjagp comes rushing in with PROOF that Alyce doesn’t have a license in 5…4…3…
/slowly bangs head on wall
What’s your problem dissing commenters?not everyone spends all their time on your site. Be glad when people visit and contribute!
My problem is people coming in to a conversation asking the same thing that is answered in the post, and not reading any of the other responses where their questions have been answered ad nauseum. I’m not trying to attract the largest number of commenters. Just the ones who can interact intelligently. If this is problematic for you, there are a TON of places out there that would appreciate the page views of dozens of people posting personal monologues. At this site, we try to listen and respond to each others thought rather than talking to ourselves. I hope that answers your question.
Your hostility and controlling is offensive. Just ignore comments that bother you.
Your stupidity is offensive, but I will stay around.
PS. That was hostile.
How dare I try to keep the discourse relevant and intelligent on a site I run and pay for when clearly Viv wants it her way. You’re right, NAA (by the way, your nick is supposed to be all caps, duh.) Viv is stupid and hostile. I think I may have PMS. This combination will not end well.
Now, shall return to our intellectual discussion of penises? I’m for them by the way.
Hope you get help with your PMS. Your site is useful and entertaining. Don’t ruin it with your personal shit c
TT – we don’t need this snarky old hag…block her please
Objection, fairy tale. PMS doesn’t exist and we are all whiners with fake symptoms. People always gotta blame PMS like it really effects our thought process?? Lawdy lawdy, time for Midol. Bwaahaha!
TT, your so feisty today, how ever do you multitask the wit, charm and the superb bloggin? 🙂
Tamaratattles. Sorry if you were offended that your article above wasn’t read before I started posting…I commented about myself having done that..I certainly didn’t realize we were obligated to read the article before we were allowed to post..I find this an interesting site but had no idea you would be offended if one posted before reading..
Objection. Foundation. Pertinence.
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FAIRYTALE!
HOSTILE! TIME OUT!
I am addicted to this crazy trial and don’t know what I will do if Squirmy Nurmi gets his mistrial. Since we all know they both were into picture taking and receiving, what difference does it make if it was or wasn’t his peen? That doesn’t make the abuse story real..
I have just found this site and find it informative. I appreciate that people on this site talk about the issues without attacking people with disbariging comments. Some of the comments have been earned by the participants in the trial, i.e. defense attorneys and so called experts.
What moderation do you want?
I have been trying to catch up and keep your writings to read when I can. I have also posted on other sites that people should view your writings because they offer a lot of great info and references regarding the Aries Trial. If I have offended you, I apologize. I will no longer look to your site nor refer it to anyone as it is very obvious that you reject any discussion that is not about your current daily writing.
i love how both of the drug references were from jodis life but Travis sounds stoned
Not sure what bothers you. Jodi could have been the supplier or drugs and also was the recorder of Travis.
I thought we already saw the peen photo in court? Remembering they kept it up on the giant screen most of the day, disturbing for siblings. I could be wrong
I think we saw the attached to Travis penis. This penis is just the penis. Martinez kept it out because it could not be positively identified. I think. I could be wrong too. But I am reasonably sure that is what happened. )
seemed like there was an erect peen from text message from TA on the screen for a day. Plus the day of the murder shot where you can see him. I’ve absorbed too much info to be able to pull it back out of the braincell. LOL
I am going to make a break for it and run a couple quick errands. 🙂 This means moderated comments will be delayed until I get back. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Although I too am praying for peen, I’m out of the loop on the peen picture. If the penis is positively identified what is the relevancy and what will it prove? Surly not just to depict Travis as a sexual deviant? Good God isn’t it time the defense moves on?
Concerning the pic of the penis…If you look at Mr. Brewers hands at the time he testified, and the hands on the penis pic, they are one and the same…Look at pics of Travis’ hands…Travis had nicely manicured hands…
Ew. Stop making me visualize Mr. Brewer’s penis! ACK! This is where I confess to not having seen the picture. Or if I did, not remembering it…
I saw the peen pics. There are two. The one that has a hand holding it looks pretty big (relative to the hand, that is). Unfortunately, I didn’t think to save them.
ive waded through the rhetoric of the jodi-its at the she didnt do it site. Even saw some familiar names. I have a question for those crossovers. Would your admin have you on tomorrows witch hunt list of non believers if he knew you talked with us?
I haven’t been in a couple of weeks, but I do go there and lurk to remind me that CRAZY still abounds. I would never go to their site and say my deepest wish… that Jodi be convicted of 1st degree murder. I also have no trouble with a little Old Testament judgement as in ‘an eye for an eye’ justice.
I’m curious — exactly what is this site? i want to check it out. Guess I’m a masochist. If you can give me the name, it would be great and thanks!
It’s a very well run facebook page call Jodi Is Innocent. They have a lot of resources like the motions and are very well informed on the trial. They just happen to believe in her innocence. While that seems inconceivable to us, everyone is entitled to their opinions. Let’s hope the jury doesn’t share theirs.
Thank you very much, TT. I’ll check it out because I’m curious as to how folks can believe that she is not guilty of this crime, that she was justified.
I thought this looked like a good site to get more insight into the trial until it turned into a petty cat fight. Really??? You judge and mock someone for their posts? So what if she posted without reading back far enough, her comments were still interesting. I think you are the one that owes her an apology, not the other way around. She, however, was the gracious one. You, on the other hand just wind up looking like a rotten “B*%#&”. I’m sure that if it looks that way to me then it looks that way to a lot of other people as well. You are probably going to lose a lot of readers over this.
God I hope so. I’d like to keep the one that are smart and on topic. Which sadly means we must say goodbye. 🙁
I hope so too – who are all these whackjobs anyway – just now showing up and commenting on stuff talked about ad nauseum for weeks now….
Most of the new people are very nice and smart. I don’t mean to silence people here. I just wish they would at least read the info in the POST they are commenting about. I realize that the comments are often impossible to get through. But they could at least read the topic before commenting. That said, let’s not let them distract us from posting. Please be sure to try to update those who depend on this site for updates as well. I can’t watch and see this site at the same time so help is appreciated. 🙂 Just the important stuff, not the minutia. 🙂
the only readers tamaratattles will loose will hopefully be dumbasses like viv and cristen. What kind of person comes to tt’s site to start snarky trouble? I love this site and tt is such a gifted blogger,as well as many of her faithful followers.this is my first time to ever post at this site or any other but I hope to be a tamaratattles faithful from now on!
Sadly I think people don’t get that she who runs the blog is boss. Its just common sense to respect the one who is working to entertain and inform you while providing a place to discuss. I guess all you can do is shake your head or giggle at those who have no sense of politeness and nothing better to do than insult bloggers…
OMG will these ppl give it a rest already. We already know they sent dirty pics to one another. So, a penis pic of Travis means nothing. If that makes him a deviant, what does it make her that she sent pics back to him? So, they need to let the deviant stuff go….As for the undies, I think she might have had Spider-man undies but I don’t think he gave them to her. Just like I don’t think he gave her the t-shirt and the other undies that had his name on them.
I think she purchased that stuff herself and put his name on them. After all, she claimed she felt demeaned when she wore them. Yet, in response to a juror’s question, she said they were sentimental to her. She can’t have it both ways.
Unless this guy is going to testify that he SEEN pics of LITTLE BOYS on Travis’ computer, he has NOTHING relevant to say.
Lastly, I don’t care what her hair color was. She could have been wearing a wig for all we know. The truth is not in her. She’s a liar and will always be a lying – liar. A murdering, lying – liar. Disgusting, un-remorseful, murdering, skank. Does this high-school dropout with a camera, really thinks she is smarter than the rest of us? Give me a f’ing break. Guilty, guilty, guilty.
Patricia, thank you! I haven’t thought about the “gifts” in quite a while. I can assuredly agree with you that she bought those herself. Not sure if it was in TA’s nature to try to “own” her. Any thoughts on this?
Hey DLister,
I don’t think as a lifestyle choice he was into owning people – b/c there are people that are into that sort of thing – I think in fantasy terms he wanted to try it. In the tape he talked about having her submit – then in the same breath – he said it could be like legit porn. So, I think for him that sort of S&M was a fantasy and not a lifestyle choice that he wanted to claim someone as his personal sex slave….
My own opinion is if he was really into it, he would have been a great deal more aggressive and controlling with her. Not to mention, he wouldn’t have let her go.
The undies, the image of her in his eyeball, etc. are all desperate attempts to help her escape the consequences of her actions.
BTW – I love your comment regarding Jesus in toast below. That was hilarious.
Jodi got off on being demeaned she’s such a sick f*** so she can have it both ways. That outfit which I believe was of her own creation, was sentimentally demeaning to her, hence the trophy picture.I agree with you Guilty, guilty, guilty I wish we could fast forward to rebuttal.
The Tshirt that said Travis’ was the front of the shirt. The back had the word blog on the back so I believe he had them made up to advertise his blog. The Tshirt that reads Travis’ is another dog that won’t hunt that the defense has put out. In some ways, I wouldn’t blame JA if she claimed poor representation after this trial. I can not figure out how JW and KN think any of this is helpful to JA. BTW, notice that the courtroom is almost empty. Nobody wants to hear the defense. UH OH! Seems this is about the reflection in Travis’ eyes as JA took the photo.
Did somebody say Peen???? 🙂
It took you so long, I was worried something happened to you. I hope I did not promise peen where none will, er….come. I know that would be devasting for you. Stay tuned for peen alerts. If they come, (the alerts) it will not be until afternoon.
Damn job gets in the way of me having funny peen discussions. I, for one, will definitely be praying for peen in trial today.
You have some awesome radar there, Tebs.
Peen is my specialty Dottie 🙂
You know Teb & Peen 😉
LIVE FEEDS ARE UP AND ONLY 10 minutes late. Nurmi immediately calls for a sidebar. Wong is called to the stand. feel free to recap her testimony.
One of the things up for trial-watcher question, that I believe was never an issue in court wasn’t the penis itself but the fingers around it. There are pictures of Travis’ fingers that show nicely shaped smooth fingers with rounded nails and nailbeds. The penis picture seems to have a hand with shorter and knobbier fingers with squarish shaped nails, which are more suited to Daryl Brewer than Travis, but that is speculative and I don’t think it can be brought into court. Shame. I’m not sure where the pictures are but they’re out there; I’ve seen them a few times.
Oh, gosh. Just realized, not being intellectually gifted, that I have posted too much. Guess I was too excited to discuss thoughts I’ve had for months now. My apologies. I’ll go back to Websleuths.com. Again, so sorry.
Your sarcasm will be greatly missed.
Wong testifies that she saw Marinez signing autographs and posing for pictures but did not see any jurors present. Martinez did no cross. Now we are having a Daubert hearing on another matter. A Daubert hearing has to do with expert testimony and assessing the validity of the expert. The expert in question (by the defense) is Bryan Neumeister. He did the sex phone call enhancement and apparently the shower pictures. The picture of Travis in the showere standing, eyes toward camera is up on the big screen. P.S. this may mean no peen! 🙁 We have a two minute recess for technology. EDITED TO REMOVE AN INCORRECT ASSUMPTION ON MY PART. Sorry. The defense seems to want a reflection in the picture in Travis’s eye included in as an exhibit. Maybe. I am just giving my observations and can be wrong again…
Travis sisters are visibly upset today.I think its due to having to be so close to Jodi in the jury box. And seeing Travis last picture displayed.
Ha ha. Sounds like Rectal Linear, so suitable in this case. JA would define it as “Well, that means straight UP my ass!”
Seeing the Alexander family cry is heart breaking. For awhile Jodi was sitting in the front row of the jury box and the were right behind her. The judge has moved Jodi and Willmott to the center of the courtroom next to the projector and out of sight of the victim’s family. The expert is giving actual expert testimony about cameras and enhancement of photos and other boring stuff.
Especially Samantha, as she seems the more emotional of the two. I wonder if they were closer in age? In any case, this witness is funny. I mean really, what is the point of this? We know she took the picture of him and that he was sitting and alive. What else do we need to know? Is there a reflection? Could be but it’s pointless as she’s already admitted to taking the pics. This is a stall and a waste of tax payer money. I love how Juan is being all cool man Luke….
Neidemeyer is going to testify that he sees two people reflected in Travis’s right pupil just like that guy did a few weeks ago. It must mean that they are going back to the Ninja story. Just sayin’
It is interesting to point out that this is the DEFENSE witness. So it seems they are not trying to discredit him as I said before. Sorry. It seems like they might be trying to get evidence IN that shows a reflection in TA’s eyes showing the Jodi and….????
I see nothing except a camera flash. Anyone who sees anything else also sees Jesus on toast.
Pure desperation, DLister. To think this is ALL being billed to TAX PAYERS while she does whatever with her damn money. It’s shameful.
Also, they are claiming she was standing up. She said she was kneeling! Which is it?
And, let us say she was holding the camera with two hands when she took that one pic. That doesn’t mean she didn’t get him in another positions while only holding the camera with one hand.
I sure hope this jury isn’t as narrow minded as they want them to be.
But how in the world is this testimony rebuttal? And why would the judge let it in when Bryan guy already admitted that (paraphrasing) “You can’t tell exactly who took the image by looking at the reflection in Alexander’s eye.” and (again paraphrasing) that “you have to take the shape of the cornea and lens into account and I wasn’t able to map the shape of Alexander’s eye in this case.”
It looks like the guy is going to try and testify about the distance between Jodi and the shower based on all sorts technical stuff. He has enlargements of the cornea in the picture. So far he is saying that he can see the person taking picture but there is not enough resolution to ID the person. The purpose of the Daubert hearing seems to be to accept the pictures as expert testimony. I assume Martinez wants it out or we would not be going through this. So far I don’t see how this helps the defense or harms the prosecution, but that is just me. Perhaps it will become more clear with more testimony.
I’m not sure why the defense wants to “prove” there was someone else there. Jodi said she killed him and said the Ninja story was all a lie. I guess I’m confused so feel free to help make me a little smarter as to what this all means.
Me, too… I don’t get it. We’re in a time-logic warp?
Thanks for all the updates, I can’t watch at work, so this is where I find out all the information. I read the post and every comment.
Thank you all who are watching in keeping those of us who cannot watch up to date on all the happenings.
Wow, this is f**kin’ brilliant! A person took the picture of Alexander in the shower!! OMG!!! (Sarcasm, folks, and definitely intended).
Juan is crossing examining. He’s being rather brutal. Juan says the motivation for him giving his previous testimony on audio was specifically to become a court certified expert on audio. Bryan denies this. (his previous testimony that I read was about the phone call not so much these pictures.) Juan doesn’t want the eyeball in. We are at sidebar. I for the life of me can’t figure out why this matters one way or another.
Maybe Jodi’s trying to prove Travis gave her an abusive stink eye? I really don’t know where they’re going with this.
Well we all know what a stink eye can do (yeah I am looking at you RHOC)
I’m with you Tamara. I can’t figure out the importance of this at all.
This is a long shot, but maybe if the photo was taken “at chest height” (which is what Bryan testified to) and the image shows someday’s arms still up around their head, the photo was snapped as the camera was being dropped??? I know, complete speculation. Objection! Sustained!!!
I agree. Objection sustained. Too speculative and beyond the scope.
the point does seem to be that they want to show that Jodi was holding the camera chest high in a weird posture when the photo was shot. Even knowing that it seems irrelevant to me. I like puravidacostarica’s point though… perhaps they will say she was dropping the camera.
How do they know it was chest high if the expert admitted he didn’t know Jodi or Travis’ height
If she were holding the gun and camera at the sane time, which would she have up to her eye? Neither. She wouldn’t hold the camera up to her eye so he could knock the gun from her hand, she would distract him with the camera while she shot from slightly above him if he were sitting in the shower. If I were trying to kill and take a pic of someone at the same time, I would hold the gun with my right dominant hand and probably dropped the camera while I pulled the trigger, oops. She may have never shot a gun before, therefore it jerked her back a bit. He probably did say I’ll kill you, you effing biotch because she shot him, or was held him at gunpoint trying to get him to change his mind about the trip. Probably not the best thing to say to a psycho, but I don’t see him pleading for his life either in that moment, he was angered by her craziness. He probably thought he could overpower her in a struggle for the gun if she didn’t shoot him first. I mean, she grabbed a knife to finish him off, he couldn’t have seen that coming from her. Underestimating a true psychomaniac person is like trying to hold the sea in one hand and not spilling a drop. There’s not enough hands to hold down her crazy. I’m probably way off, does thus make any sense??? I just don’t see him body slamming her wet from the shower where he could slip unless she had a gun pointed at his face. He would have to manage it if she were about to kill him, which she did, brutally!!!
OMG look a real live peen in the court room. Oh darn never mind that is just Nurmi.
Thanks for that visual! ~LMAO~ i would prefer to think of Nurmi as a eunuch. I have an urge to shower with bleach and a Brillo pad.. Guuuh
Of course, I’d argue, if I were Juan, that the flashes look like anything, including light bouncing off the knife she’s holding in her right hand! 🙂
Haha I wish he would have said that
I was thinking along the same lines except she’s holding a gun instead… I just didn’t get a lot from the outline myself…
Juan swears that he sees a dog with a stick in the picture and therefore the pictures are fine to show but just not with the outline that the expert made. Juan says if you ask ten different people what they see you will get 10 different answers. Nurmi’s response is that Juan has a limited view of what science is and the drawing by the expert is in fact science. I would not admit the outlined pic if I were the judge. But still, who cares?
Juan so a doggie, I saw a sasquatch with a picnic lunch.
I saw murderess’s brazillian stubble…
(… as picked up by TA’s cornea, reflected back by knifeblade to cornea to knifeblade to cornea…)
O, christ, did Nurmi just say coo-de-graw & shoot his cuffs, again… (Uriah Heap, anyone? Ick!!)
Sadly, Judge Stephens hasn’t had the kahunas yet to make a strong ruling on evidentiary matters. I’d be surprised if she didn’t let it in, but here’s hoping…
Is this stick figure supposed to be a man? OMG thus seems like a total waste if time Get on with it Still no purpose of thus photo enhancement is evident ugh!
UH OH! Now KN says that the interview he wants to play is of JM interviewing Dr. Samuels. KN said that JM tried to intimidate Dr. Dick the way he did ALV while in the judges’s chambers. Poor, poor expert witnesses! I think Nurmi is just jealous of how much people admire Mr. Martinez. Just another dog that won’t hunt!
maybe it wasnt a stick, but a peen?
Oh God, here we go! Nurmi wants to take the jurors to that lab!! How incredible is that? Maybe it would be a good thing if he did — every single one of those jurors would likely say afterwards “and you brought us down here and wasted even more of our time to show us THAT????”
The judge just used a bunch of legalese to ask. WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT? Nurmi says the photo shows that Jodi was telling the truth that when she described how she was taking the picture. She was a few feet away with both hands on the camera, and not holding a knife. Martinez says that he doesn’t see a camera, he doesn’t see a person, it doesn’t show anything. The judge is going review this in chambers. BUT FIRST SHE WANTS TO MOVE ON TO THE MISCONDUCT MOTION
Nurmi is arguing that the photo shows Arias was holding the camera in the way she said she was, with both of her hands on the camera from a few feet away, and that somehow proves that her testimony was truthful. “No knife in her hands. No, no, just a camera,” said Nurmi.
This judge is going to take it under advisement. If she lets it in, then the Evidence Rules on expert testimony are worthless.
Oops, sorry, TT, we were posting at the same time. Sorry for the repetitiveness…
Couldn’t it have been in the pocket of her jeans?
Really did he say the prosecutial misconduct is an accumulative problem?? He is so reaching. He is ridiculous
I think I see they knife in her right hand. 🙂
Now Nurmi is arguing for the mistrial motion. Goes something like this:
“Boo-hoo, Juan is more popular than me. I’m getting hate mail, snarky Internet comments about my weight and posture, and there are people out there who love the prosecutor. It’s not fay-aaaaiiiirrr!”
Apparently we are back to the Martinez misconduct motion. I thought they were moving on to the Alyce stuff but they are not. We are back to the mistrial motion that states the defense cannot give adequate counsel because Martinez has demonstrated misconduct. The misconduct is not just the photos and autographs. There are two motions it seems the second one has to do with Martinez harassing witnesses, specifically Dr Samuels during the trial. AND INTIMIDATING ALYCE IN A PROCEEDING IN CHAMBERS. Looks like Alyce is off the hook and Juan is on it.
Juan has asked for a ruling on the Wong hearing. He wants to separate the hearing about photos and autographs from the one about him intimidating the witnesses. So it appears that Nurmi is arguing his points to the judge about Wong. He says that both motions are related to misconduct and it’s permeating of the entire trial.
Juan says that these are two different issues. The photo and the witness intimidation issues are unrelated. He says that the defense wants to say that this is effecting the juries. We have already interviewed the jurors and know they were not affected. The defense is being unethical and unprofessional by wasting everyone’s time. He says except for the defense counsel can add a few extra pennies to their pockets. Nurmi is bitching back.
The judge has denied the mistrial. She says basically that the misconduct did not effect the jury’s verdict. Mistrial is the most dramatic remedy and the court cannot make that finding. We are moving on to the witness intimidation hearing.
Mistrial denied (again)
Thank God. Our judicial system would be even more screwed up than it is, if somebody could argue that they did not get a fair (criminal or civil) trial because opposing counsel is a “meanie” who was “mean” to them “in a mean way”. And it was “weally fwightening!” Sorry, when I see Nurmi, I hear “Elmer Fudd”
Nurmi is arguing that Martinez was threatening or intimidating (I missed the exact wording toward Alyce in Chambers regarding her being stalked or harassed by the public. (again I missed a bit of that.) He doesn’t get into specifics there because that conference is sealed. He is about to play some of Samuels testimony from court that he alleges shows witness intimidation. As usual no one knows how to work the courtroom technology so we wait.
Boy – talk about getting personal. – Nurmi vs. Martinez. Not to mention the gross exaggeration by Nurmi regarding M’s fan club. Lol…..
Nurmi sounds like a big whiney baby.. Thanks guys for updating. I get all my scoop here. This does really sound like a complete waste of time
Okay, I’m not buying this b.s. no matter what Juan said to Samuels (unless it was “if you testify, I’m going to kill you after this trial is over”!). 🙂 Samuels is an adult. He is supposedly an “expert”. And he is “intimidated” by the prosecutor? That is a load of bull. What won’t Nurmi do so he doesn’t have to be associated with Jodi being put to death?!
Ooo hell! We all know Dr. Dick or Mr. Samuels is just pissed because he was called out on having a crush on JA. Boo effin hoooo! All of this is irrelevant. She did it. The defense is just trying to lay grounds for an appeal. Now can we move on with the real issue at hand… premeditation? I am surprised at this point that a disgruntled AZ taxpayer hasn’t offed her there in the courtroom… ~Disclaimer~ I am not encouraging homicide in the courtroom. :/
Do not hire these 2 to defend you even for a traffic ticket. Dr. Samuels just said on the tape that in December he brought the book to Jodi b/c he thought she was depressed. THEN, he said, “She wasn’t as depressed as I thought she would be.” That is helpful how???
Why doesn’t Juan mention the things Jodi does in court or her supporters do outside of court for her? Is it because he isn’t petty like Nurmi or doesn’t believe it warrants a mistrial?
Even a blind person can see Samuels is a numbskull.
CORRECTION! We are hearing an audio recording of Juan’s pretrial interview. Juan is bringing up the terms instrumental and expressive and is asking when Samuels came up with those words. Samuels came up with them a couple months ago. Sounds like Willmott or someone says something and Samuels say he is not sure when he found the new words…it could have been 5 months ago. So far Martinez is very calm. Samuels is talking about the two terms and how they show that the murder was not premeditated. He knows this because he recently came across this article about instrumental and expressive (something or another.) Now we are on the dissociative amnesia topic. Samuels explains the concept. Juan asks how he found she has DA. Samuels says his test gave PTSD diagnosis and the amnesia is part of that.
So far, nothing to see here folks. I’m gonna stop recapping until Martinez jumps up and holds a knife to his throat and tells him not to say something on the stand. Or something similar.
waits….
getting sleepy….
Okay my video keeps cutting out. Samuels says “even a blind person can sometimes run the bases.” Juan says he doesn’t care about blind people. Samuels he does. Things get slightly heated for a bit.
Juan is doing his usual, “that is not what he is asking” Juan is asking why he needs a picture of a brain up there to explain the brain stuff.
And that was it. Very mild. Judge asked for a sidebar before she hears arguments. The last round was very snarky between Martinez and Nurmi. She may be admonishing them on courtroom behavior.
So why wasn’t the motion filed after or during Samuels’ testimony but it is now after jury questions seem to indicate they don’t believe your second witness either.
Nurmi’s argument: Martinez is a bully! He doesn’t care about blind people! Seriously. This is too stupid to recap. Just know Nurmi is ridiculous. I imagine Martinez just standing up and saying, “are you kidding me?” and sitting down
Sweet, Juan moves to stop JA tweets!
OMG! JM just busted JA @ the twitter acct. and asked the judge to stop the tweets. JM says the defendant is the one who is attempting to ‘fan social media’! BOOM!!!
Martinez argued that if LaViolette was upset, then she SHOULD HAVE BEEN because of what was uncovered at the sealed hearing in judge’s chambers. “You know what I’m talking about,” he told the judge. OMG! That’s what’s in store for tomorrow! It’s going to be an expert bloodbath, y’all. And that’s just an expression folks from just the cop’s kid-would have been a prosecutor had I had the slightest interest in criminal law-woman professional who is not offended by incredibly smart/competent/impassioned attorneys like Juan.
I know they are not supposed to, BUT I wonder how many of the jury is watching the trial today?
Juan says that the allegation regarding Alyce in chambers, the judge was there, no one objected to anything. IF ALYCE WAS UPSET SHE SHOULD BE UPSET BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT HEARING OF WHICH YOU ARE AWARE YOUR HONOR (woohooo looks like perjury tomorrow!) As to Samuels, Juan says that god there is an audio so you can hear what actually happened on the audio. As for the blind people, Samuels started it! There is no proof that this negatively effected Samuels testimony. Juan says he has no control over how social media reacts to his defendants .They draw their own conclusions. Juan points out that Jodi is tweeting about her testimony which is a violation of her admonition. (BTW Jodi’s tweets came down yesterday except for the short people thing). Nurmi says Juan is playing a shell game trying to make you look over at Jodi having a twitter account to confuse you from the fact that he is a mean, mean man who is a big old bully to Dr. Samuels. He called Dr. Samuels MISTER Samuels! That is so degrading! So regardless of Ms Arias having a twitter, Juan is a bad guy and we want a mistrial.
Judge, the court says there is a fine line between zealous advocacy and prosecutorial misconduct, both occurred outside the presence OUTSIDE the courtroom. So once again. MISTRIAL DENIED. Furthermore, this court finds that the prosecutor was not in anyway outside the bounds of proper behavior during the in chambers meeting with Ms. Laviolette there were reasons for his questions. With regard to the Samuels things there is also no basis.
With regard to the twitter thing I (the judge) has no information regarding that. Nurmi says that if he wants a cease of the behavior he needs to do a formal motion saying that it is her …. she has freedom of speech….blah blah bla Juan says that he doesn’t want the defense to accuse him of intimidating the defendant. he doesn’t care. Blah blah blah.
BREAKING NEWS at 1:15 TODAY they will have an in meeting with Alyce, probably about the perjury. I thought she said in chamber but she just said “we are in recess until 1:15”
Did the judge just say there’s a sealed proceeding w/Alyce TODAY at 1:15? I thought that was tomorrow, or are there 2 issues?
BREAKING NEWS at 1:15 TODAY they will have an in meeting with Alyce, probably about the perjury. I thought she said in chamber but she just said “we are in recess until 1:15″
Did I hear that correctly, Alyce is there?
OMG it sounds like its getting good!!!!
TT, I couldn’t tell if ALV is there today or not, like you. I believe that she is NOT there today, but will be tomorrow. Oh, my goodness! How good is JM???
YAY thanks for all the updates y’all I know I am missing a lot so it’s great to read everyone’s reactions.
Last Friday the judge gave Alyce the choice of today or tomorrow. It looks like Alyce may have decided to just get it over with. I think the judge is going to come down hard on her for whatever the issue is. We may or may not get peen today but the chances of a perjury charge are looking really good!
Defense is grasping at anything trying to stay afloat. But they are drowning and they know it.
Yes, I heard the same thing Alyce is there at 1:15 in chambers. if her testimony is impeached will we hear that instruction to the jury after the closed door meeting or does it stay sealed? How the heck are we gonna find out what happens in that meeting?
The judge said she would meet with alyce at 1:15 in chambers, then she said we are in recess until 1:15. Maybe she meant, see ya later at 1:15.
BREAKING NEWS: TWO EXPLOSIONS AT FINISH LINE FOR BOSTON MARATHON THOUGHT TO BE BOMBS. Not much info yet. The winner crossed a couple hours ago. The remaining racers were just removed from the course and the race shutdown. Just thought y’all might want to know. (sorry for being off topic. but if you are from Boston…)
You just cannot outlaw CRAZY! So sad. 6 people injured.
I live nearby. 6 injured.
wow 2 dead so far. 22 injured.
My husband is there, on his way home now. 2 dead, 23 injured. So sad.
for those getting their updates from here. So far there is a sadly a lack of peen. Sorry to get your hopes up. 🙁
Can’t believe I’m going to admit this, I’m curious about Juan’s peen. Is he circumcised? He looks like an Inca/Mayan/Aztec, so probably not, unless he was born here and they automatically did that. Also, he may be small in stature, but what about his peen? Yeah, I do need to get laid, I admit it. Such is life.
LMAO!! Omg, ya’ll are hilarious with the peen talk. And here I thought it was just us on Twitter peen obsessed 😉
I’ve seen Travis’ peen before. I’m good.
This is why I love you guys. In the midst of watching a death penalty trial about a horrific murder, we can still crack peen jokes. 🙂
Maybe it will be pushed off to Wednesday, A hump day one eye snake would be a nice little change of pace.
LOL!
Anything going on yet???
Nothing yet. Everyone is talking about the Boston marathon explosions. They also just confirmed another explosion at the JFK library.
Did the defense just blow the case wide open when their expert witness testified that the stick drawing he did was NOT I replete NOT be holding a knife?
Sadly, I think I got us all worked up for nothing over the peen. This is not the peen expert. Thus it probably isn’t going to happen. I think the confusion was over the fact that the PEEN guy was the PICTURE guy. So when word made its way around the courtroom that the picture expert was coming back, we all went back to look at that testimony and discovered the only thing the defense didn’t get in was the peen.
One of Juan’s objections today was that this guy did not previously testify about pictures but just the audio enhancement of the sex tape. The other guy, who I thought might try once again to proffer the peen, was the defense picture expert.
So what I am trying to say IT IS THE DEFENSE’S FAULT that I got us all ready for a peen identification hearing when what we got was an eyeball hearing because they called the AUDIO guy to talk about the pictures rather than the PICTURE guy.
So I plead sort of guilty with a long ass explanation your honor.
Ma’m please answer the questions wih yes or no. Did I ask you whether or not it was the defense’s fault?
Anyhoo, thanks a lot. I used up my daily peen prayer quota for nothing!
“…proffer the peen”…LOL. What a great choice of words.
So sorry to hear about Boston. I hope all your readers/posters are safe.
MJ
TT, I’m sure ALV is disappointed about peen pics becuz we all know she luvs the “Big”picture and maybe the peen would have been Big for her to see.If for some crazy reason JA were to get off do you think Bravo would produce a new show called Real Brunett Killers featuring JA and CA?Lol
I think there’s still hope for your theory. Nurmi was trying to prove the guy (sorry, can’t recall is name) is qualified to be an expert witness when it comes to photo’s. I think, although I’m not sure, they were using the eye photo as an example of how he can enlarge them and see details. If the judge rules that yes, he does qualify as an expert witness then I think they’ll break out the penis photo and probably enlarge it. This is most likely why Juan doesn’t want the guy declared as an expert witness on photo’s.
Even if he is allowed in front of the jury, I don’t see what difference it would make if Travis had that photo on his computer. I think the defense is starting to panic.
I feel terrible about that. 🙁
Can someone post when the feed comes back? I’m having connectivity issues so I may think I am waiting when the feed is really down in the background thanks.
FYI Sounds like cell phone service in Boston is being shut down in order to stop remote detonation of bombs…
That is so terrible….Prayers to all in Boston
I have a question – please don’t start screaming at me if it’s been covered! It is just not possible to read ALL comments, though I’ve scanned through. Anyway, here goes:
Is there anyone, an attorney, or legal scholar who can tell me why a mistrial is advantageous to the defense? (I would think the AZ taxpayers would have a serious problem with that.)
The only potential benefits are:
1) More time to hire better experts or better prepare the ones they have;
2) More time to try to plea bargain (with life without parole sounding pretty good right about now!);
3) Possibly several more years in jail for Jodi (and credit for time served if convicted of a lesser offense).
AZ taxpayers, unfortunately, don’t have a say in it one way or the other.
Also, the defense now has first hand experience of what works and what doesn’t, and they have heard the prosecution’s case in chief and heard their witnesses. kh
Also, a mistrial would extend Jodi’s life by a few years. More time for her to sell art and sing karaoke. Based on the jurors’ questions throughout the proceedings, perhaps they will make an example of her. Not all attractive white girls can get away with murder like that devil in Florida.
The defense would love a mistrial,cuz now they know JM strategy and witnesses and would be able to retry their case since they have screwed up from the beginning.Basically they would get to start all over.Im sure AZ would throw a fit over retrial due to mistrial because of taxpayer cost.
That too, exactly! Plus, the fallout could be political (for Juan and his boss at the County Prosecutor’s Office) for not just accepting a plea and jailtime rather than try it a second time. (Not hat, in my non-criminal experience and based on where I live, that has stopped the county prosecutor’s office from doing whatever they damn well please, regardless of public/taxpayer outcry!)
I’m in boston, so was switching back and forth today between the hearing and the marathon. Once the explosions happened, I concentrated only on that. Will there be further televised proceedings today? I’m just getting the great seal of AZ on my screen, and it’s past the 1:15 resume time Judge Stephens gave. Anyone know what’s happening?
My assumption is the Alyce issue is in chambers… but who knows! There is apparently no clocks in the courtroom!
I just read that the courtroom has been sealed and closed to the public and to cameras. I hope it’s LaViolette getting the hotseat in her “old-girl-panties” or a Depends whipping from the judge.
There we have it.No mistrial no prosecutorial misconduct and after commercial we will know if judge puts kobash on JA tweeting from jail via “Pat” you know androgynous Pat from SNL.
Good ol “Pat” was way better looking than this yucky faced Jodi lover. She’s just waiting her turn for a conjugal visit, Jodi is making a list….a very long icky list to send non-Brazilian pics to. Blech. Lol
OMG! You mean I missed all of that action today? Thanks for the updates Tamara AND everyone…it’s hard some days to keep a watchful eye on the trial while at work…..GOOD FOR JUAN for calling them out for wasting everyone’s time and money – like now with this photo/video guy……
Prayers and thoughts to all those touched by the mess in Boston. Have a good evening everyone….
Just saw on live stream that the jury was back in the courtroom so that the judge could let them know that both sides agreed to a stipulation that in the photo of Travis (last one of him alive) Jodi is not holding a knife
It seems that JM agreed to have it entered a fact that JA was not holding a weapon in the reflection in TA eyes… I wonder why he agreed to this – especially after he went after the expert today. Puzzling.
Wellll… Juan thinks way down the line and I have to think that he has an alternative notion that will effectively negate this stipulation. He was excellent today in all ways and while yes i am biased towards him, it was hi larity indeed to watch Baby Nurmi whine and qvetch. Can not wait till tomorrow and the final chapter of ALICE IN JUAN-Derland.
I didn’t get to watch the whole thing today, so I didn’t see this that you are speaking of, so thanks for the info. That being said, I don’t know why he would agree to this either. Especially since in my mind, the reason the camera could have been at chest height is maybe it was on a neck strap. This way she could have a weapon in one hand and still press the shutter button with the other. Did anyone else see that thing where they compared the poses from the movie “Psycho”? That was so eerie. What really went down at Travis’s home that day is way more twisted than even the prosecution will ever make it out to be.
Or, like HLN keeps showing. This is a picture of him slumped down in the shower after being shot, and before the whole struggle/stabbing happened. One thing I absolutely believe from the bottom of my heart is that that photo of Travis is not him trying to make a sexy face. It is either shock because she has just pulled out a gun, or it is after he was shot. I in no way believe that she was stabbed first and shot last, and I don’t know why the defense thinks that, just because the shell casing is in blood. It could have gotten knocked there when Jodi was frantically trying to clean things up.
I am having major computer and Internet access problems all at once. This post only has two comments showing on the post page and if I click for older comments they are all out of order. I wanted to let those of you who just stay in here know I started a boston marathon post for us to comment about that.
Also Alyce is in the courtroom for a sealed hearing since 1:15. Apologies if they are already out. I may have to wait for HLN to see what is going on. I pray this comment sends…It’s been closer to an hour of no access now trying.
Court starts at 9:30 tomorrow.
JM will just tell them that when she throws camera down is when she grabs weapon from back waistband. The camera is a distraction so he didnt see her reaching for it
Agreed! She could have used the flash from the camera to distract Travis and then grabbed a knife from her back waist band.
Grandpaws stolen gun could have been there too, just waiting to follow that knife!
I bet she had the weapons nearby…I heard discussed today that there is a 2 minute gap between 2 of the pics taken by Travis’ camera, and that JM is going to argue that in that 2 minutes, Jody retrieved the weapons
JM trying to discredit photo geek’s “Daubert Standard” (admissibility of expert witness testimony) and turn it into the “Dilbert Standard” (I see the outline of a dog). Way to go JM! Kurt Nurmi now trying to discredit JM by making personal attacks on JM. Smacks of desperation.
That reflection in the eye thing is soooo bogus. I was waiting for a clear pic, an ah-ha moment, but all there is is an outline of Jodi’s ugly head. The rest of it is too nondescript to really say what she was holding. Also, even if she is not holding a weapon, Travis may have thought she left already and he is still scared seein her psycho ass standing there taking blackmail pics… I call BS.
I have always thought the same thing. That Travis thought she left. I have often wondered if he was even aware that she was taking those pics of him in the shower at all. I don’t think he did. So I feel that his expressioncar in thethe picture of him with the eye is either the look of confusion to see her there (and probably with a gun), or he has actually already been shot and is already in the slumped down position when the photo was taken.
Lori, that would explain why the reflection of her shows the camera being held at her chest. She coulda been lowering it as he sank in shock and pain…
so does that mean neidermier guy not testifying? who else is on def list? whats left for tomorrow? Rebuttal begins? I’m more confused than normal
if nurmi does not call Chris Hughes does CH have any recourse for being forced to limit his life all this time not being able to veiw or talk about the trial? Or is that jodis last F.U. to the Hughes
It’s my understanding that we start with Juan’s rebuttal tomorrow. Unless the defense brings yet another motion for mistrial. I would like to know what the hell happened with Alyce today. Perhaps the judge will give some insight to that. If she was charged with perjury, that should come out in open court. If she was not charged, it may be all we hear from or about her.
With regard to Chris Hughes. He has no recourse if not called. However, I believe that Juan could call him. 🙂
I really believe ALV was getting in trouble for telling people what happened in sealed hearings in the judge’s chambers. USA Today published an article late last week about the harassment ALV was facing and it specifically said in the article that a source close to ALV said this had been discussed at length last Monday in chambers, which was a closed hearing and ALV shouldn’t have been talking about it.
Today’s highlights: Nurmi got some exercise. Jodi sat in one of the jurors chairs and defiled it. Expert witness for the defense testified his stick figure drawing was Not holding a knife. Motion for mistrial was denied. Alyce was in chambers getting a new one ripped for lying. Another productive day in court.
Perfect summary! Thanks. 🙂
Did alyce taking signals turn out to be a nonissue?
thanx T.T. You know with JM in the driver seat we are gonna need seat belts cuz this trial will move again. Just in time almost gotta get into the feilds
I hope rebuttal testimony does begin tomorrow so this trial can move along.
I admit I was stupefied at this nonsense Nurmi brought to court today with the ‘eye photographer’. I did hear on Nancy Grace there is a guy who says this can be done but who really cares. We already know Arias took pictures of TA in the shower so what was the defense’s point of bringing this before the judge today? Martinez said the blot looked like a dog which seemed to infuriated Nurmi. I really laughed when he said maybe it was a Mexican Chihuahua! Was he making fun of himself? LOL
Why is no one concentrating on the blood spatter on the white tiles, in the background in the picture the defense brought into evidence today? It’s white tile, a picture of TA with a concerned look on his face and there is obvious spatter to the left and right of his scared, concerned face.
Please take a look at the white tiles, the same tiles the Defense witness testified to this morning with regards to the flash and the effect the tiles had on the flashback to the figure in his left eye. There are obvious RED spatters on those tiles and they aren’t water droplets. When you look at the blown up picture, to the right of the picture are many read blood spay. To the left of the pic are two larger droplets. His expression was fear and something happened prior to this picture being taken.
the def line drawing shows her standing. She testified she was kneeling. So why not let the def get it in
I have seen a picture that puts that head shot on top of the shot of his torso and lower body. With some minor size adjustments the face fit perfectly on the body. It showed he was sitting down at the time JA took that head shot. That made me come to the conclusion that she must have been kneeling at the time. I don’t think it is possible to say that blob in Travis’s eye definitely proves that she standing with no knife. Also, I read on another blog that the picture in his eye would be an inverted shot of whatever he was seeing. Does anyone know if that is scientifically true?
sometimes when you blow up that much some color changes occur. Det Flores even told jodi that when showing her the foot pic
The defense witness testified today that he blew the picture up to the point that he didn’t deviate from pixels and clarity. Is there a figure in his cornea and no blood spatter or is the blood spatter and no figure in his cornea? Hmmmmmm
can the defense witness testify that the red spatter on the white tiles be color changes to enhancement yet the figure in the cornea was an innocent photographer or are the spatters actually blood and the figure in the cornea is a german shepherd?
maybe JM saw that spatter and thats why he didnt argue too hard and let it in. Either way is bad for jodi 🙂
My understanding of the agreement between the two sides was the judge would give the statement to the jurors and the picture would not be shown to the jury…
have the def put up any witnesses that JM didnt flip?
The defense is desperate at this point. But you can’t blame there, Jodi really put them in a whole by being so guilty in every which way. Not even a hint that she could have been innocent.. nothing. All signs say she planned this.