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You are here: Home / jodi arias / Jodi Arias Trial: Alyce Continues Her Journey into Juanderland

Jodi Arias Trial: Alyce Continues Her Journey into Juanderland

April 8, 2013 by tamaratattles 90 Comments

aliceonthestandLast Thursday we all fell into the rabbit hole with Alyce expecting a few oddities however what we were not expecting in chapter one was to encounter Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. We have seen enough of Sleepy and Dopey already. We need to move this show along. We did get to the part where Alyce eats the cake that says EAT ME and grows a very, very large head. So what to expect today?

alycehugWell, in the traditional version of the story Alyce is due to arrive at the pool of tears. Whether this Alyce in this story has a come down from eating the cake and collapses in a pool of tears remains to be seen. Perhaps, we will pick up the pace a bit and get to the caucus race where everyone chases each other in circles and no one ever wins. Or maybe we will once again diver off script and pause briefly to diagnose Snow White as a victim of abuse. While the evil queen surely did scar Snow White for life and possibly provide the catalyst for an anxiety disorder, Alyce will have a hard time labeling Prince Charming as and abuser.

Whatever discussion of children’s literature we have today, we will be recapping it, discussing it and most likely arguing about it in comments. Please join us.

P.S. This Alice in Wonderland defense has been used before. See how it worked for Teresa Giudice here.

Edited to add picture of Nurmi hugging Alyce after court Thursday outside the presence of the jury but in the presence of the judge….

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  1. steve says

    April 8, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    still in chambers another monday morning mistrial motion?

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    • Patricia says

      April 8, 2013 at 1:01 pm

      Seems that way Steve.

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  2. Patricia says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    We do need to move this show along, I sooooo agree with you Tamara. If this trial is not over by the end of next week. I think I will be over it. Seriously, I waste my off days on this trial, watch it at work (as much as I can anyway), rush home from work to watch it (b/c it’s still on here)….convict her already.

    Just heard on HLN, they are 30 minutes late b/c they are in the judge’s chambers. I don’t know why she sets a starting time since they NEVER start on time. What she should do is start at 8am, that way she can actually start by 9:30!

    Stupid judge.

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  3. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    The spectators were admonished that any outburst of laughter would result in immediate ejection from the courtroom.

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    • Patricia says

      April 8, 2013 at 1:07 pm

      Just read that Jodi is now back in chambers. How stupid is this trial? What she wants another mistrial b/c of laughter? This is unreal.

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    • susan says

      April 8, 2013 at 1:15 pm

      Judge should have admonished last Thursday…when Alyce’s girlfriend made outburst…

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      • Patricia says

        April 8, 2013 at 1:24 pm

        Well Susan, I guess we can all go about our business. There will be nothing to see here….if stupid Alyce did approach the family and they are asking for a mistrial, admonishing the g/f won’t mean much b/c I think they stand a good chance to get one. I seriously dislike this judge. She has handled this case badly from the start and now this? Incompetent.

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        • susan says

          April 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm

          agree Patricia – this Judge is always a day late/dollar short….and can someone tell me why they NEVER have court on Fridays? with all the recesses for sick witnesses (Jodi, Alyce) and whatever – why won’t this judge try to move it along by have court on Friday?

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    • Eve says

      April 8, 2013 at 2:27 pm

      The judge should be admonishing the attorneys , not the spectators. She doesnt need sidebars to accomplish it. Lots of time saved right there.
      As for this cross, its nonsense. Martinez continually bullies witness into getting them to say what he wants. This is not talent, its a joke.
      Most judges would NEVER allow Martinez to act this way.
      Now, they are arguing about who was the keynote speaker? Its ridiculous.
      All he has to ask is one question. Does Jodi lie a lot? answer, yes…… Was part of your opinion based on what Jodi told you? yes…… case closed.

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      • MaRiley says

        April 8, 2013 at 2:56 pm

        All I need to know, it’s already been analyzed. Alyce pads her CV, she makes asinine and false assumptions of written content between people she’s never ever met. She doesn’t know email from IM’s from text messages. Juan will have to educate her about cut and paste to alter emails. She takes no notes contemporaneous to her “interview” of Jodi, the psycho-liar. No audio or video of any time with Jodi, although I’d bet she’s kept a time sheet to get her fees from Arizona taxpayers.

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  4. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    Juror 5 will not be in the courtroom today.

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    • susan says

      April 8, 2013 at 1:17 pm

      did Judge ban Juror 5 from courtroom? should have done that last week when she was dismissed

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    • Eve says

      April 8, 2013 at 2:28 pm

      Good idea, just a day late.
      This judge should not be handling anything more than traffic court.

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  5. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Alyce attempted to approach the ALEXANDER family last THURSDAY DURING BREAK IN TRIAL? She said something to Travis’s sister Sam in court.

    edited to change to Thursday…and to update as a credible source of info

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    • Patricia says

      April 8, 2013 at 1:13 pm

      What? Really? I knew that woman wasn’t wrapped to tight. They are doing everything they can to throw this trial into a mistrial.

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    • susan says

      April 8, 2013 at 1:37 pm

      she APPROACHED Travis’s family???WHAT??? what is wrong with this woman? hope they told her to go F herself

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      • Patricia says

        April 8, 2013 at 1:43 pm

        LOL Susan! Ha! I said the same thing, needless to say I agree….I think they are trying to find some way in which to throw this trial into a mistrial. Wouldn’t mind being a fly on the wall….

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    • peachteachr says

      April 8, 2013 at 7:34 pm

      She is said to have said to Samantha, “Nothing personal.” It feels personal to me!

      Reply
  6. steve says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    guess this is why ja drew snow white with a black eye in jan. which sold for $885

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    • tamaratattles says

      April 8, 2013 at 2:23 pm

      Jodi Arias is a very accomplished artist. That picture is not of her caliber. It’s a hoax.

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  7. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Juan is happy in the courtroom waiting and smiling. The defense is still in chambers with the judge. Nothing serious can be going on without Juan in there..

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    • Patricia says

      April 8, 2013 at 1:25 pm

      whew! thanks for the update…

      Reply
    • susan says

      April 8, 2013 at 1:33 pm

      that would be my guess too – so what the hell does JA and def team have to complain about now? or maybe it’s the judge complaining to def team? get the frickin show on the road!

      Reply
  8. steve says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Dr lavs friend who laughed thurs was sitting next to jodi friend donovon when she did that. Whos family did dr lav try to contact?

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  9. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    If they were asking for a mistrial, Juan would still be back there. Juror #5 was not banned, she said she would not be attending anymore. Not sure where Alyce is I am trying to find out.

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  10. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Defense is out of chambers… should get live feed soon!

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  11. susan says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    thanks for update on that TT – and Juror 5 statement was asking media to respect her and her family’s privacy during trial, then she shows up in courtroom 1 day after dismissal & media chasing her down the street when she left courtroom – what a WHACKJOB….

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  12. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    SOMETHING MAJOR IS GOING ON. The Alexander siblings have been called back to chambers. Alyce was back there before and she walked out through the courtroom to the hallway. Stay tuned…

    Just me guessing here now, perhaps Juan asked to get all of Alyce’s testimony thrown out because it had no basis in reality, and was not credible because it relied only on Jodi’s word? Probably not, but we can hope…

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    • susan says

      April 8, 2013 at 1:42 pm

      interesting…Alexander family are in chambers but not Juan? hmmmmm….

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  13. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    So much for that, Alyce is back in court sitting in the seats for defense testimony. She is ready to go back on.

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    • susan says

      April 8, 2013 at 1:42 pm

      maybe Judge told Alyce to get rid of her girlfriend/wife in courtroom…lol

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      • Patricia says

        April 8, 2013 at 1:46 pm

        lol….or she might have told her any more bull from her and her payday is over – along with her career.

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  14. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Judge Belvin would be having court on Saturdays by now. Possibly even Sundays…

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    • susan says

      April 8, 2013 at 1:46 pm

      yes he would!

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    • Patricia says

      April 8, 2013 at 2:00 pm

      Amen to that – Perry wasn’t messing around….any time missed he would make up for – remember that? I do. That guy was the best.

      BTW – court is now in session. I’m going for lunch…will return shortly….

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  15. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    JM is in chambers with Alexanders and Flores and judge. Flores has come out twice to retrieve paperwork…

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  16. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    This is just random twitter rumor, not confimed, some are saying that Alyce said to Sam, “nothing personal.” I’m not sure I believe that. Twitter trial watchers have a tendency to make things up to fill in the gaps.

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    • Eve says

      April 8, 2013 at 2:30 pm

      I dont believe it.

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  17. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    The defense team went out into the hallway with Alyce to talk. I THINK they are all back in the courtroom. It seems we are about to start. Maybe. Or break for lunch…

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  18. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    It seems clear that both Alyce and Juan were told to calm the fuck down. Also in case you missed it, the Judge asked the jury if Juror 5 had attempted to contact any of them. She saw no hands. 🙂

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  19. Dlister says

    April 8, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Kenny Rogers is back court reporting!

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    • Eve says

      April 8, 2013 at 2:31 pm

      LOL very good !

      Kenny walked right past me outside when i was there.

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      • Dlister says

        April 8, 2013 at 2:33 pm

        What? And nobody asked him for his autograph? 🙂

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        • Eve says

          April 8, 2013 at 2:55 pm

          I aint no cane lady….lol

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  20. Dlister says

    April 8, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    I’m wondering if the courthouse takes out some of Juan’s salary for having to replace that part of the carpet he inevitably wears away from his pacing back and forth!

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  21. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Edited post to add picture of Nurmi hugging Alyce after court Thursday outside the presence of the jury but in the presence of the judge….

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    • susan says

      April 8, 2013 at 2:44 pm

      Big Huey hugging worn-out hippie?

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    • Tamara says

      April 8, 2013 at 2:48 pm

      That’s also juror number 5 in the blue in the background. She stayed long after the courtroom cleared out talking to some woman And occasionally looking over towards Nurmi it looked like. It was weird. I’m glad she’s not there today though.

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      • tamaratattles says

        April 8, 2013 at 3:06 pm

        Juror five was told to stay until a bailiff could escort her out of the courtroom to avoid drama. The lady in orange she talked to was a reporter trying to get a story.

        Meanwhile, Alyce cannot for the life of her answer the questions Juan asks because she is so used to the leading questions from the defense where she just says YES every so often. Now she doesn’t know what to do…

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        • Tamara says

          April 8, 2013 at 3:23 pm

          Thanks for clearing that up. I figured whoever was talking to here was trying to get a story but I couldn’t figure out why she waited so long other than the fact that she was hoping to not get caught up in the crowd and have to deal with any questions. Didn’t know the judge told her to stay and wait. Makes since I guess. The wacko should have never shown up anyways.

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    • susan says

      April 8, 2013 at 2:50 pm

      are Huey & Hippie KISSING?? looks sorta like that in picture….

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      • puravidacostarica says

        April 8, 2013 at 3:41 pm

        You mean, Huey and Looney? 🙂

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  22. susan says

    April 8, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Martinez is showing LaViolette a transcript of her previous testimony in which she said 90% of all communication in the clinical world is non verbal.
    Martinez is showing LaViolette a transcript of her previous testimony in which she said 90% of all communication in the clinical world is non verbal.

    Martinez said that her comment indicates her opinion is 90% wrong since she was unable to observe non verbal communications between Arias and Alexander

    Whoa!

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    • susan says

      April 8, 2013 at 2:48 pm

      sorry for double sentence – I copy/pasted from HuffPost blog

      Reply
  23. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    Fun fact: Jodi Arias and OJ Simpson were both born on July 9th.

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    • Dlister says

      April 8, 2013 at 2:49 pm

      Oy vey! So is one my cherished friends!

      Reply
  24. Dlister says

    April 8, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    The huge problem with Alyce is that she is always trying to figure out where Juan is going so she can intercept and/or soften the blow. Judge Judy frequently asserts “Don’t try to figure out where I’m going, just answer the question.” I wish Juan could say that to her.

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  25. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    WOW. Great place to end for lunch. Alyce admits she chose not to believe Travis’s emails where he said Jodi was a stalker and he was afraid of her.

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  26. MeMyself says

    April 8, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Why in theeee hell does Laviolette have to go and get her glasses every day? Everyone has to wait for her to go get them. She knows she is going to need them up there, she should have them with her when she takes the stand.

    My observation: she is doing her best to not answer his questions because I believe that she knows he will expose her for the lying, biased man-hater that she is.

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  27. steve says

    April 8, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    darn it T.T. If the snow white pic is a hoax that ruins my mental image of a smug ja listening to JM presenting his case thinking that if HER expert is so good as to make sw an abused woman just how abused am i gonna be

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  28. MaRiley says

    April 8, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFt8FCrBk6k

    I hope it’s ok to post this link. Dear God. Alyce is speaking at a seminar and as she goes on, she tells us that once upon a time in the ancient world, women were in charge. (not a fairy tale), God was referred to as a female and men and women had similar builds. The women were the warriors and men “stayed home” and were domestic and raised the children. Musta been some strong hash back in the 70’s, Alyce.

    This is a bash males seminar, not awareness and care for abused women.

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    • tamaratattles says

      April 8, 2013 at 4:46 pm

      Isle of Lesbos?

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    • Dlister says

      April 8, 2013 at 6:24 pm

      She wore that shirt thingie the other day.

      Reply
    • Robert Edwards says

      April 13, 2013 at 6:10 pm

      Too funny.

      Reply
  29. steve says

    April 8, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    that was the island wonder woman came from. Fairy tales and mythology but disregard a brutaly murdered males written statements.

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    • MaRiley says

      April 8, 2013 at 4:51 pm

      I’m dense today, I think. I listened to the beginning twice and took it that she was rewriting history. Wonder Women wasn’t a part of my upbringing 🙂 I plead complete ignorance.

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      • ravynn12369 says

        April 8, 2013 at 4:57 pm

        Objection your Honor……Fairy Tale…..

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  30. ravynn12369 says

    April 8, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    ok according to a page I follow on FB there were two motions filed. I will copy and paste what it says from the page on FB so I don’t get it wrong.

    Here are today’s motions by the def:

    4/7/2013 MOT – Motion – Party (001) 4/8/2013

    NOTE: MOTION TO PRECLUDE; ANY AND ALL EVIDENCE RELATED ANY WEIGHT ASSESSMENTS OR TESTING ON SHELVING AT PLACE OF DEATH

    4/7/2013 MOT – Motion – Party (001) 4/8/2013

    NOTE: MOTION FOR MISTRIAL ; INABILITY TO PROVIDE EFFECTIVE ASSISTANCE OF COUNSEL DUE TO PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT

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    • MaRiley says

      April 8, 2013 at 5:02 pm

      Well, this just proves that there was no gun in the closet and that she and Travis were not ever in the closet while the murder was going on.

      The second motion sounds like if Juan shows that these experts and their testimony is BS, it makes it too hard for their client to get out of this.

      And, Alyce told us although she isn’t a DNA interpreter, she knows a lot and even viewers of CSI have a sense of understanding of it. God…fairy tales and crime shows.

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      • tamaratattles says

        April 8, 2013 at 5:07 pm

        LOL I thought Wilmott was going to say it again… She went with objection…..foundation…..relevance……………………..um….impossibility? Instead. lololol.

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  31. steve says

    April 8, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    and never a straight answer in between

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  32. MeMyself says

    April 8, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    Laviolette is rambling on “blah, blah, blah, blah” and Juan says “are you done with your answer?” she says “yes”. He says, “now, answer my question!” LOVE IT!

    She is refusing to answer because she knows that he is breaking down her credibility!!!!! She is starting to squirm up there just like Quack Samuels! I wonder if or when we will see the sweat breaking out on her face like it did on his!

    And why does Martinez have to ask the judge to admonish her for not being responsive? The judge should be doing this! Is she dozing off up there? Pay attention judge and do your job!

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  33. MeMyself says

    April 8, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    Is Jodi’s mom writing a note to possibly be given to Jodi? Camera panned to her and she is writing. I watched a video on youtube from last week that was footage after court and the camera was on. The one where ex-juror#5 is sitting in the courtroom talking to one of the court employees. Toward the end, when Jodi and her attorney was leaving, there is a woman in a red jacket that hands a piece of paper to Jodi’s mother. Who was that woman? Why is Jodi’s mom allowed to take notes like that in court?

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    • MaRiley says

      April 8, 2013 at 5:53 pm

      I think there are thoughts floating around that Dr. Phil or his producer will allegedly provide money to a charitable organization that will allegedly benefit the Arias family (such as travel expenses, food,motel) in exchange for setting up an exclusive book deal at the conclusion of the trial. That’s sure to take on helluva ghostwriter.

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  34. ravynn12369 says

    April 8, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    Does this lady actually think that Jodi didn’t start telling lies until after the murder? WHAT?? Really?? OMG

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  35. MeMyself says

    April 8, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    Why is Laviolette answering her yes or no questions, then saying “with a qualifier”. When she tries to ramble, judge asks her to ansewer the question, and she says for example: “yes, with a qualifier”. What is this happy horseshit about? Does this then let her get out of being held accountable for her answer?

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    • ravynn12369 says

      April 8, 2013 at 5:57 pm

      I think it is her sad attempt at trying to save her now ruined career after getting on the stand for the defense. She knows she is screwed and she is trying now to do damage control.

      Reply
  36. steve says

    April 8, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    JM is going after these experts so hard because he wants to remove enuf credibility so they can not corrupt the legal system with biased or invalid reports as an expert again

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    • tamaratattles says

      April 8, 2013 at 6:11 pm

      Dr. Phil is trying to do interviews with Arias’s family and Alexander’s family. This has some people in a snit saying that Aria’s family will benefit with airfare, spending money, food etc. Who cares. They didn’t kill anyone…

      On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Tamara Tattles

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      • Eve says

        April 8, 2013 at 8:17 pm

        well, the arias family i agree had nothing to do with what Jodi did. The problem i have is that i dont think Dr. Phil is to be taken seriously. He goes after headlines and doesnt impress me at all.
        Second i have a HUGE problem with Phil because he paid George and Cindy Anthony an enormous amount of money. They were involved because of the never ending lying and cover ups.
        Some of that money is being funneled to Casey. So, Dr. Phil is a jerk.

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  37. steve says

    April 8, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    thats the hard part. Ja actions affected so many people. Both families are collateral damage in this. This would be a good book on what can go wrong IF we could ever believe we got the whole truth of what happened.

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  38. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    Alyce has to go! Has to go! Has to GO RIGHT NOW,Judge! Three minute break.about 6 minutes after 30 minute break.

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  39. MeMyself says

    April 8, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    Three minute recess? Wanna bet that Lavoilette has to pee again? When Juan is really getting one over on her, she always has to pee.

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    • Robert Edwards says

      April 13, 2013 at 6:15 pm

      True.

      Reply
  40. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    Alyce’s female companion in the audience gave her a shoulder rub and a pep talk before going on the stand according to one of JVM’s court reporters.

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  41. tamaratattles says

    April 8, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    I just thought of what some of the discussions in chambers with just the defense could have been about today. I heard a RUMOR that Alyce’s convention she was supposed to go to tomorrow has removed her from the program. So now she is not in a hurry to get there. Thus she is now able to continue testimony tomorrow.

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