EDITED TO ADD LINK TO BRIEF INTERVIEW WITH JUROR # 5
Juror #5 has made an official statement to the press. She’s a smart lady. I am in the camp that feels sorry for her. We don’t know what she is accused of saying or doing. Let alone what really happened. That said, I think sitting outside in the front of the courthouse where all the media is probably violates that whole avoiding the media thing. So there is that…He is what she said…
In the past few days I have been a part of discussion and interest in the murder trial case of Jodi Arias. For the past three months I have been fulfilling my duty as one of the jurors in the case of Jodi Arias. Jodi Arias’ attorneys have filed a motion asking for a mistrial or that Juror 5 is removed from the jury, which led to my removal.
UPDATED WITH PICTURE OF JUROR 5 AFTER THE BREAK
Until the verdict in murder trial case of Jodi Arias is reached I will not make any statements or give any interviews regarding my removal from the jury. I believe that the attention should be focused on the actual trial. I would ask from everyone to please respect my privacy and the privacy of my family.
Removed Juror # 5 in the murder trial case of Jodi Arias
This jpg is floating around the twitterverse. Not sure how valid it is. It could well be a photoshop. Just posting here for y’all to see.
Good for her. She is doing the right thing for the people of Arizona.
She’s more likely holding out for the highest bidder.
Well that’s good. I too feel badly for her. I think perhaps her dismissal was more to do with a shake of the head or harsh look at Jodi than her seeing Juan get praise. I bet Jodi could tell she wasn’t feelin her and they just used this whole front door thing to get her out.
The removal of a juror is serious and the judge likely had evidence of this juror breaking the admonition. Either way, she was not removed on a whim! I don’t feel sorry for her at all. After the verdict I’m sure the media will find out the exact reason, that is, if anyone gives a crap about her and her removal at that point.
I don’t understand why many folks are feeling empathy for Juror #5! The Arizona taxpayers are on the hook for nearly $1MM for this trial thus far, and Juror #5’s actions (whatever they are) were significant enough to have her removed from the jury, thus, risking mistrial and now, potential appeal fodder should Jodi Arias be convicted. A mistrial would mean that they start all over again – and starting the taxpayer bank “clock” at $0 — all over again. There are very few “things” that I believe the government should force you to do — being on a jury and being honest it one of them. Breaking the rules as a juror is repugnant, as the rules are fairly simple.
Her interview asking price is not going to go up with time. If she waits til after the verdict, noone will care what her opinion of the case is because the jury will have already spoken. I think she will not get paid for her interview at all.
I’m done with this damn trial until next week. Whenever the state is up is when I return. I’m not listening to her regurgitate shit she heard from Jodi — as if it’s the gospel or legitimate evidence of Jodi’s claim of abuse. I wish a few jurors would stand up and asked to be released. I bet this lame-o judge would crack down on the bullshit then.
@Patricia – I’m with you on that! have no interest in listening to this def witness anymore – it’s all crap – as JVM said last night on her show, Dr. Lavalamp is romantizing Jodi’s interpretation of relationship w/ Travis…I can’t listen to this woman anymore – when I hear that JM is up at bat, I’ll tune in…
Now let me get this straight, she is talking about the murder trial of Jodi Arias, who is on trial for murder and her name is Jodi Arias and she’s on trial. Wow hope she keeps her job at the Department of Redundancy Department!
What was wrong with the witness yesterday that she got “ill?” She seemed fine. Anyone know? Will JM be up today?
the witness was sick, even the haters at HLN said she was sick, This witness is very good and knows her stuff. If there is one woman on that jury that has been abused by a man, she will totally understand what is being said. Jodi was abused and Travis was not a very nice person. So sorry that he is dead but he was not the angelic man that most of you are trying to say he is.
Louise, I am not one who ever said that TA was angelic. But I do not believe he was a monster or an abuser. He was in the throes of intense sexual attraction, a type of relationship which most young men and women encounter in their lives at least once. Apparently, to Travis, JA was good enough to “plug” but not wifey material, and many men in these types of relationships view the women in the same way — not the kind of girl I’d bring home to mother. There’s nothing wrong with it as it is very common behavior.
Getting testy with her, calling her a skank or a whore, or a porn star is NOT abuse. She could have moved on at any time she wanted to. She was NOT captive. So, where is the “abuse?”
Meant to put quotes around “not the kind of girl I’d bring home to mother.”
Also, Louise, I’m not being argumentative with you at all, just enjoying a bit of an interesting debate!
Right on point Dlister. It is not abuse when you ask for it. Jodi told Travis it was ok to debase her and treat her like she was just a hole. Jodi’s version of abuse is like asking to get choked and then complaining you couldn’t get enough air.
No, Travis was not a saint or a perfect mormon. However, his biggest crime was being an idiot and continuing to mess around with a psycho ex-girlfriend. He didn’t know hoes don’t turn into housewives and you don’t mess with crazy.
Or maybe he did but all that sex gave him that transient global amnesia too. Either way, that is no justification for killing him. If any woman on that jury has been abused, she will understand what is being said and realize Jodi was not a victim.
there’s verbal abuse, there’s a “cad” sorta abuse, then there is BRUTAL MURDER – stabbing 29 TIMES/SLASHING HIS THROAT/SHOOTING HIM IN FACE – in self defense…of course….Jodi is a very unstable woman with many issues that began long before she met Travis – she moved to Mesa AZ AFTER they had broken-up for God’s sake! All of those months she was in CA and he was in AZ – why not cut off communication with a guy who’s mean, abusive, etc? AND MOVE ON?? hope any juror will see difference between Jodi’s claimed abuse and victims of real abuse who end up in women’s shelters with their kids cause they have no where else to go and no one to help them
Exactly susan. This abuse defense is totally ridiculous.
Louise Davis, you may be right that Dr.Lavalamp knows her stuff,(although, me thinks she’s gonna have big probs on the ‘Jodi not jelly’ from Juan, though, can’t wait for that) and any one who was abused will understand what she’s saying, THEREFORE they will also understand that it DOES NOT apply to Jodi. She was not abused! Maybe mistreated, a few times, but not abused! This is not Burning Bed this is Fatal Attraction, it’s as obvious as the nose on your face! She converted her religion for him, played the tempress card to the skank degree, then when Travis, understandably, becomes ‘just not that into her’, the sneaking into his house begins, tire slashings and the obsessive psychopath can no longer contain herself. This was a well thought out, pre-meditated rage-revenge killing, plain & simple. Louise you should read a comment from yesterday by someone who, brilliantly, said something like… What abused person drives 1400 miles with a trunkful of gas, has kinky sex, then over kills him with 2 weapons?
Bottom line no matter how “mean” you think Travis may have been to Jodi, no thinking person can possibly believe her that she had any reasonable belief that her life was in danger (from dropping a camera) and that she is justified to butcher and shoot him in the face. Please.
Any woman who has had a man ‘toy with her’, use her sexually over and over, make her think he loved her, then been dumped – well… not ‘any woman’ but one on the jury is all it will take – just one to think he got what he deserved.
I am NOT saying I think he got what he deserved but I have heard plenty of women say that they did! And strangely enough, I have heard even more men say that he got what he deserved – most of them dads of girls in their early 20’s.
I’ve had it happen more than once. I often hear of assholes who get what’s coming to them and have very little compassion.
That said, I have not heard a single thing about Travis that would evoke that response. Seemed like typical young dating behavior to me. They were all 20 somethings when this happened.
Ya, I do not understand this idea at all. “What’s comin to him” would be to fall in love then get dumped, not to be executed in cold blood. Men and women get dumped every day all day. It is not a good defense. I think Jodi’s lawyers shoulda focused more on trying to create believable self defense. Although I guess they couldn’t, given the brutality of the murder.
i respect juror 5 for not wanting to jeapordize the rest of this trial. I would love t know the reason but suspect something was used by def out of context (they wouldnt do that) and the judge dismissed juror 5 out of caution since still had all alternates in place. Time will tell.
Juror number 5 is in the courtroom preparing to watch afternoon testimony.
Oy vey. What a pot of stew she is in. I will say that if that was me, I would be in the loving arms of my family and friends and not in that courtroom. I understand she is “invested,” but if I had a family and community to go to, that is where I would be right now after dismissal. After all, duh, there is HLN!!
wow, thats not a good thing is it? Could it be a def ploy to taint other jurors? I know she has alot of time invested but seems like it shouldnt be allowed since the media is showing trial. her being in there dont feel right…monday morning mistrial motion sez carnac the great…i miss johnny
This is such a waste of time! is there a way that this courtroom can be brought under control. Geeze enough already!
I got the popcorn — who’s coming over for some great JM??? All are welcome (got the wine, too!)
All Juan wants is clear responses. When he doesn’t get it initially, he will parse in order to get it — for the jury’s sake. This man has taught me so much about how to question when I need to cut through editorializations. Thank you, JM.
Lavalamp dont have the chops to spar with Juan…juanderland is wonderful. Hln reporters sayin JM dont know how to cross exam i dont know where they get their ideas from. Lavalamp gonna be sick monday so not hafta face him
Who or what is “lava lamp”? I thought there was a rule here that requested commenters kindly to use real names and not second grade special school sounding nicknames?
I did not dislike Samuels and I do not dislike LaViolette. They are doing the best they can under the circumstances under which they agreed to be contracted. If it were not them, there would have been others in their place, guaranteed. But the prosecutor needs to do his job to make his case and to specifically destroy any “reasonable doubt.” JM is known to be masterful at this, and now, due to this particular case, he is showing his God-given talents.
I have a huge problem with HLN showing Juror #5 at this point. I wish I could explain why.
@dlister I would too if she had not waddled into the courtroom, sat down behind Jodi Arias and been trying to make eye contact with both the jury and Jodi. If they had driven by her home and snapped a photo that would be a whole nuther talk show.
ALL of the general public has to sit on Jodi’s side. The Alexander side is reserved for the Press. Several people in court commented on Jodi turning around to look at Juror5 and smile. Did you seee the document in the post above? Jodi doesn’t even turn around and look at her family…
i know they had to have experts however this is a death penalty case the most important of court cases so…the experts that are getting paid really well should make sure what they are saying is as accurate as possible cross every t dot every i and try to make the testimony appear as impartial to not provide the other side with ammo to appear professional everybody knew they would face JM on cross but didnt think that he would pose a problem. They couldnt be more wrong JM has spent years prepping his case and ripping theirs to shreds. If you are being paid $300 an hour you need to at least try to appear you know what you are saying
Yeah. Fuck perjury and stuff. Who cares bout that. They just need to SEEM accurate..,because they are getting paid and stuff.
im confused on hln watchin JVM saw Juanderland begin then i went made dinner and now NG is showing minniemouse still askin questions was i dreaming?
Wasnt that annoying! And Nancy didn’t even acknowledge it. Thank God it was fixed when Dr Drew show started. It was seriously like water torture.
I cant believe I just heard on Dr Drew show that juror #5 gave a big smile when Juan finally started his cross examination. I really cannot take believe that they have her in there! The risk of mistrial here is ridiculous. I really dont get this judge. Now if the jury saw her smiling when Juan finally got up there??? You know one of the first things the defense is going to do tonight is dig deep into juror 5’s behavior and the jury and ask for another mistrial. SMH
So you don’t believe the document at the end of the post about Juror 5 coaching Jodi on the stand?
DID ANYONE SEE THE NEW DOCUMENT ABOVE? ANYONE? What do we think? Is it genuine?
I missed that. I will look now.
Trying to influence answers from the jury arias? Nice typo. I dont think its real. If it were then I REALLY cannot imagine her being allowed back in that courtroom. God, I hope its not real. What do you think?
And if the document is real, meaning there really was a voicemail, I still dont buy it. I think the caller is either lying (perhaps the defense is actually behind it?), or maybe a schizophrenic or something. You know how some people think the tv characters or news people are talking to them and stuff like that? Was it an anonymous message do we know? What more do you know Tamara, anything? Sorry to comment again, but I couldnt help myself.
It doesn’t make sense. If juror 5 was helping Arias, why did the defense want her gone?
Because I don’t really think that she IS for the defense, and the defense knew that she wasn’t for them. So they made up a lie saying that she was coaching Jodi so 1) at worst they could have her removed, and 2) at best it would be an excuse for a mistrial. IDK. I’m just taking some shots in the dark here I guess. I just cannot imagine that this juror was coaching Jodi Arias though. That’s too crazy for me to believe.
Woow! If that is an authentic document (?) I believe it reeks of a phone call made by someone related to the defense. They didn’t want her because she didn’t appear to be in their favor… This is so movie like… the plots are so predictable. 🙁
i couldnt read it the type was too small on my screen can you rewrite it bigger on the same thread please? Hln didnt dive on it is it real?
Maybe put your face closer to he screen? Or stand behind it with a mirror? That works for me. Or I put my laptop under an upside down microscope.
Lol
teecee66 i only have a dumb phone at the moment and tried to magnify to no avail so cut some slack and earlier i didnt imply an expert should lie but look at the expert testimony we have seen all i said is an expert can phrase the opinion in such a way as to seem professional not i should have retested i left it at home where are my note and both of them maybe i should have actually spoken with somebody other than just jodi
You’re like Mexican sister the month after cinco de mayo. Missing all KINDS of periods.
SISTERS.
Change that to “latinas” and you’ve got my vote for funniest post in awhile! By the way, I once asked my Born-in-Mexico hubby why he never dated a Latina (as Jodi Arias is, I believe). His response? “Because they are freakin’ CRAZY!!” LOL
teecee you make me teehee and unfortunately at times peepee!!! 🙂
Nothing from this trial would surprise me, Lori. I wonder if HLN ever mentioned this when it happened or if this is new info, or just some crap on twitter. I really don’t know.
This person leaving the message claims she heard about it on HLN and that the woman has pink and blue hair. Would they even say that on HLN? Describe a juror’s looks? I don’t think I have ever heard it.
Well, even if someone did mention her hair color, I know damn well that no one on HLN said that the juror was coaching Jodi Arias. Otherwise those HLNers would have been ALL OVER that, especially Nancy. Nope… not on Nancy’s watch!!! Something very fishy here. If anyone, I could see that Dr. Drew juror giving a description of the hair though. I don’t know why, but I could see her describing something like that. – Of course that means nothing, just my opinion of her I guess. I don’t know if people in the court room are told that they can’t mention anything about the appearance of the jurors or not. Another thing though, if HLN was being blamed for this, don’t you think that they would be talking about it, or it would be confirmed by a reputable news source other than HLN that this is what happened (in the case that HLN is in the dog house for doing so)? Hey wait a minute…. why is Dr. Drew out this week??? Just kidding (I think). Things that make ya go hmmmmm….
yes, katy wick on dr drew, jinkasaurus,and beth k. have all described juror #5 on air during this trial.
But was that before or after her dismissal. I knew they’ve described her a lot since then of course, but I couldn’t remember if they did so prior.
The phone number is real. The courts were saying they get hundreds of calls each day with all kinds of information (looking for guns, other victims, etc) Wouldn’t surprise me if someone can notice her sneaking a pill out of a folder she snuck off the desk, they may have called for this too. JMHO
yes teecee66 i have used second grade nicknames and long run-on sentences. What i have not done,as you have, was use profanity nor have i brought race into the comments. The fist time i read lavalamp T.T. used it since this is her place i thought it was ok. Evidently something about me got your knickers bunched up. I will try to use proper punctuation but sometimes get typing errors forgive me please. Do you like ron white? he sez you are anal…and not the good kind
Excuse me???
The whole domestic violence thing really makes me angry. I lived with a battered woman for 11 years of my life, my mother. After those 11 years she was taken from me when she was murdered by my stepdad. None of her actions on the stand during her 18 days of testimony say “battered woman to me.” Then add to that a few other things. (1) She seemed to be a willing participant in sex with Mr. Alexander as per the tape that was recorded. (2) They did not live together. Therefore, it seems highly unlikely to me that she would CHOOSE to drive 1400 miles to see someone that she “claims” was so abusive. (3) Given that they did not live together, she was not forcibly trapped by him against her will. (4) I seriously doubt any woman who is repeatedly abused would have a willing desire to continually make love with an abuser. (5) Stabbing a man 29 times, cutting his throat and then shooting him strikes me as a rage killing, not self defense.
Exactly. The battered woman defense for Jodi is idiotic and sad. I am sorry for your loss.
If you notice, I did not stick to Jodi’s testimony that she “shot him first.” That’s crap. I’ve listened to testimony and read the ME’s autopsy report. I’m a medical professional myself, so the autopsy report was not difficult to understand. The gunshot wound produced no hemorrhaging (bleeding). This would suggest that at the time of the GSW, Mr. A was already dead. Is it just me, or do others wonder why, first of all, if I were in defense of my life and I had a gun, would I take the time to stab someone instead of merely shooting them to eliminate the threat and then get myself to safety? Also, another question I have is this: Let’s assume, simply for the sake of argument, whether you believe so or not, that Jodi is telling the truth, that she did shoot first. The law is clear regarding self defense, that you can use deadly force only until such time as the imminent danger is over. I also brief Supreme Court cases for fun. The ME testified that the GSW to the face would be incapacitating, that Travis would not have been able to be a threat to her. Therefore, according to her own testimony, the threat would have been passed. By her own account that she shot him first, the following stab wounds and throat slashing would definitely not fall under the auspice or protection of legal self defense. Add to that the 9 or so stab wounds to the back (which would mean that Travis was turned AWAY from her), and I don’t see how her lawyers were even allowed to present self defense as a claim. Wouldn’t it have been more effective to claim temp insanity? Instead of the woman who did not live with him and was, therefore, not trapped by him, the woman who could have just refused to make the drive to see him, the woman who could have simply changed her number, email address and cut off contact, refused to have sex with him, etc. saying that she was “abused,” why not just say, “I just snapped. He treated me like a whore, a dog, like someone beneath him for so long that when he humiliated me this last time by having sex with me and then telling me he was taking some other woman to Mexico, relegating me back to my sex object whore status, I just snapped.” I might have even been able to swallow that…at least much better than I could ever swallow self defense. I’m not saying that if she had claimed temp insanity I would have necessarily believed her or even given her a pass, but at least that wouldn’t be such a ludicrous claim as is what she says now. It also bothers me that her claims of abuse are just the type to make it more difficult for the women who really are faced with life-and-death abuse. Those women really do have a legitimate case, and Jodi is making a mockery of a tragic, pathetic and dangerous situation for her own gain. That’s ridiculous and should definitely NOT be rewarded.
Was the Medical Examiner able to conclude what actually killed Travis Alexander? If I remember correctly, he was not able to make that determination – so we can’t be certain whether the gunshot or the stabbing was the precise manner/focus.
I am of the belief – just my humble thought – that she is 100% LYING especially about “the fog”, so I am trying to construct the events using logic in her decision-making.
Here goes, somewhat scattered:
I think she knows that the gun could somewhat logically be traced back to her (inference can certainly be reasonably presumed since the grandparent’s stolen gun was the same kind as the one used to shoot him), but that the knives used are long gone, and more importantly, ubiquitous. I also believe she knows that the slashing killed Travis, so she will admit to the shooting (as it wasn’t the direct murder weapon). I also believe that she used two weapons because she was already planning her alibi if the police figured out she was actually there — so this could fit logically into the story (#2 I think), that “the female ninja had the gun” and the “mail ninja had the knife”.
I don’t understand the “I accidentally shot him” / “but I did it in self-defense” / “since I was battered I am justified” defense. The only logical reason is that a) her defense counsel is using the kitchen sink method in hopes of resonating with just 1 juror, or b) to persuade the jury and judge to spare her life bc they feel a little sorry for her.
Oh, yeah, and has anyone else other than me had a thought that everything LaViolette has said could be applied to Jodi instead of Travis? In other words, who is to say that females can’t be the aggressor, the perpetrator in a domestically violent relationship? It happens…women do abuse men. I’ve seen it…lived it. So isn’t it funny how we always assume the man is the guilty one? What if it was Travis who was being abused routinely? Again, just as I stated on the flip side, if that is the case, he did not live with her. He could have easily simply refused further contact. My point is simply that things shouldn’t always be stereotyped.
I was pissed when LaViolette used the term “victim” for Jodi and “perpetrator” for Travis. This biz is gonna bite Snow White’s azz.
That was a great moment, and I think the look on her face when juan pointed the fact that she just called jodi the victim and travis perp said it all. And then she opened her mouth and more bullshit fell out. If she’s not ashamed of herself she should be, and I would have to conclude that similar to jodi, her conscience is not working correctly. I wonder if she regrets having taken this job. She really pissed me off when she pulled that “Mr. Martinez, are you angry at me?” crap. Another difficult witness who wants to play games and play dumb. Ay carumba!
I agree with u..I do believe old lavette is a man hater..
A newsman in AZ got her to admit that it was something she said as a joke. Then he reported this lined up with what sources told him. Apparently the jury had a LOL moment after some Dr. Samuels testimony about his pay rate. Juror 5 supposedly said to her fellow jurors “For $300 bucks and hour they should be able to afford some more comfortable seats for us.” everyone laughed. Someone told the defense…
I would think it would have been Laviolette on the stand based on timing. Still that seems trivial. I would have imagined many jokes about the expert witnesses.
This jury needs to go home and keep her stupid mouth shut..Travis was brutally murdered and he deserves justice.so jury 5 disappear u can get your driving fame after trial now I no why u want to be seen its money not justice.
JM will make Laviolette work 4 her money this week.
She looked so stupid Thursday after he was doing the questioning mama do u have a her juan memory problem seems they all do first Samuels Jodi her..I no the jury sees this memory loss she didn’t view much with the defense..tattled away now she needs to review yea right get