Well…this is getting more bizarre by the minute. It seems that the owner of StoopidHousewives tried to remain anonymous while fighting a copyright lawsuit regarding some photos of the RHONJ. Again the RHONJ are NOT plaintiffs and were not even aware of the case until today. Trust me I have good RHONJ sources. In the case of North Jersey Media Group against Stoopidhousewives the defendant (SH) attempted to claim that her safety would be violated by remaining anonymous for the trial. Click through for an excerpt from the case. I have tons of docs to read through… but this is of particular interest to our circle.
From the public record of the legal proceedings where SH tries to remain anonymous:
It appears, from the reader’s comments in the defendant’s Exhibit A,
and from the plaintiff’s explanation in its opposition to the motion, that the
August 27, 2012 reader’s comment is related “to a rivalry between Stoopidhousewives.com and another blogger, who is now deceased.” It also
appears that the defendant’s failure to mention the rival blogger’s death on the
defendant’s Web site caused readers to post “the profanity-laced” comments on the
defendant’s Web site, such as the comments submitted on (a) “2012/08/24 at 9:34
AM,” stating, in pertinent part, “all you had to do was give Lynn a damn mention,
the woman died you heartless cunt”; and (b) “2012/08/27 at 10:18 PM,” stating, in
pertinent part, “Hey CUNT STOOPID, YOU FORGOT TO ADD WHEN PUBLISHING MY COMMENT CUNT FACT THAT ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS MENTION LYNN HUDSON PASSING YOU STOOPID CUNT FACE COW! YOU GOT HALF YOUR READERS FROM HER YOU HEARTLESS CUNT!”
Furthermore, an e-mail message, contained in Exhibit A, dated “Feb 20, 2012 at 3:59 AM,” sent to the defendant’s Web site, from a reader who used to support and promote the defendant’s Web site, and who appears to have been blocked from accessing the defendant’s Web site, does not contain any threats; rather, it expresses the reader’s disappointment about being blocked from accessing the Web site. The comment dated “2012/09/24 at 5:30 PM,” contained in Exhibit A, refers to “the ladies on NJ housewives especially Kathy and Melissa,” and states “I believe
someone associated with the NJ franchise will be killed. Considering 3 of the NJ
housewives are still friendly with Kim D. A known drug trafficker. That’s not a
good look.” It is not clear what relevance, if any, the “2012/09/24” comment has
to the defendant’s Web site or the defendant’s writings, as it does not appear to
involve the defendant’s Web site or refer to it in any way.
The defense (SH) says in part in their motions that the following comments on her blog should allow her to be anonymous in the legal proceedings :
In pertinent part, the August 27, 2012 comment states “HOW THE FUCK IS WANTING YOU TO MENTION LYNN’s DEATH PROFANITY? Here is a comment for you cunt! YOU DON’T WANT TO LET HER POST IT, THERE ABOUT 50 of us CUNT! You are going to get fucked with no return.”
This is from the judge’s ruling:
The use of profane language by readers of the defendant’s Web site, by
itself, is not a sufficient ground warranting the defendant’s proceeding in this
action by using a pseudonym. The defendant presented no evidence establishing a
risk of retaliatory physical or mental harm would exist if the defendant’s
identity were to be revealed in this action. The defendant does not identify, in
the defendant’s declaration or by other evidence, any acts or omissions that the
defendant perceives might pose a risk of retaliatory physical or mental harm if
the defendant’s identity is revealed. The defendant’s declaration states only that
the defendant removed the defendant’s photograph from the defendant’s Web site
when the defendant “began to receive abusive communications wherein individuals
were harassing me for my contact information.” The defendant does not explain why, as the defendant contends, the defendant “could be exposed to physical and/or mental abuse at [the defendant’s] place of residence,” solely because the
“individuals [have been] harassing [the defendant] for [the defendant’s] contact
information.” The defendant does not explain why or in relation to what factual
circumstances those “individuals” have been “harassing” the defendant for the
defendant’s contact information. The evidence before the Court does not support the defendant’s contention that the defendant or an innocent party will be exposed to a risk of retaliatory physical or mental harm if the defendant’s identity is revealed in this action, and this factor militates against granting the defendant’s request to proceed by using a pseudonym.
[Source:Westlaw.com legal records]
Frankly, I think the judge underestimated the crazy that is the LynnNChicago followers. We all have differing opinions on Stoopidhousewives. Regardless of what yours are, I can assure you that the followers of LynnNChicago trolled and harassed not only RHONY cast members but other bloggers who disagreed with their points of view. It does not surprise me that they would be brought up in court. Were I the judge on the case, I would have granted SH the right to be sued under a pseudonym. That’s just my opinion. Furthermore, I find Stoopidhousewives silence regarding the passing of Lynn Hudson much better than being hypocritical and saying something nice. If I don’t like you when you are live, I am not going to change my mind if you die. I say respectful silence is the way to go.
Anyway, this is all very dramatic, no?
definitely dramatic….. soon there may be a show titled THE REAL HOUSEWIVES OF THE REAL HOUSEWIVES BLOGS! 😉
No wonder stoopid isn’t talking about this issue on her blog, her lawyer told her to shutup.
Just unbelieveable!
I’m lost here, I f Lynn is dead, who is suing Stoopidhoueswives?
not.helping.
This is interesting sheeee-it!
So, I’ve never been to that site but out of curiosity I visited it today. Keeping with what you’ve asked us tt I’m not going to say anything about my views/opinions on that site.
But – I will say after visiting that site I appreciate this one so much. I’m glad you keep us in check. You run a “classy” blog and your posters appreciate/love you and the work you put in to provide us with a place to vent/talk/discuss reality shows.
Thank you tamaratattles!
I will say that the reason I ask people who comment here to type the person’t name they are talking about and not some bastardization of the term is I see where that goes.
I hope I can maintain a site that is about playful mocking and not outright meanness. I know I slip there from time to time myself but it is almost always with commenters who want to come in and tell me how to run my site. I TRY to keep the real vitriol away from the Bravolebrities.
Well said Barbara!! I also come here because Tamara is a class act. I rarely use profanity, it’s just not necessary, IMHO. Tamara does a great job of fact checking, being accountable to other bloggers by citing them for information or pictures. .
I agree. Tamara Is a fucking great cunt.
Uhhhh, ok ….. LMAO!!! I have no words!!
My thoughts are that SH has major control issues and is afraid to show her identity because she can’t control LynnInChicago’s followers. I was posting on the SH website periodically for a year now and whenever someone wanted to respond to my comment it was stated like this: “Is it okay if I agree with her Ms. SH?” I was shocked that someone actually asked permission. If you notice there are only a limited number of “regulars” on her blogsite and all of them seem to apologize to her for no good reason…usually if they disagree with something she had written. I’m so done with SH and her sheepdogs.
welcome to TT where I cannot get my rabid commenters under control. They can be annoying assholes. I guess that is a good thing! Um we are trying to reform for 2013 and learn to be more compassionate. I’m a poor teacher and they are slow learners. 🙂 BUT WE ARE TRYING!
TT can’t control us…lord knows she tries..
LMAO!!! Esp when she brings us major tea that gives us much fodder!!!
Thank you for the welcome TT. You aren’t a poor teacher and they aren’t slow learners…some smart bastard once said “we are perfectly imperfect or imperfectly perfect”. More tea please!
Apologize for disagreeing?? Hahaha. TT might ban a bitch for apologizing. She ain’t got not time fa dat ::sweetbrownvoice:: this is by far my favorite place to discuss reality TV. RealityTea commenters are kinda rabid and ultra negative that was my place before I discovered the gem that is TT. This has been home ever since. I like the friendly snark here…
Hey now, who you calling rabid and ultra negative? I don’t have a lot of time to post other places but when I do it is at RT. Don’t judge me bro, I love them.
Shit me too girl. LoL when u take a few days off I’ll comment over there. I just need less vitriol so that’s why I prefer ur nice site.
One chick went on and on about how disgusting and fat the boo boo were. In EVERY comment. Like basically they need to be lined up and shot because they are fat not be on TV. Like fuck we have realized they were fat for a entire season. How long does it really take to get over that? It’s deeper than that! Idk it just hateful, can’t see past their nose
I agree , We all are entitled to a opinion and even if we don’t always agree and of course we won’t it is just fun to talk and chat about all the shows! Good and bad. I can’t even imagine threatening another person because some blogger asked me too. Just sick!
I do reserve my right to be over it and lay a bitch out when necessary. Let us not call me nice. 🙂
Victori0us, I like the snark here too. On the other side of the tracks it ain’t so friendly. It’s pure one-way SH snark. Shit you have to be vetted to even post over there. LOL
To be fair, I hurt some feelers here, there is a certain set that may be wayward from other non exisitent blogs that just want to talk about their day here all day long. I’m sorry this is not a message board. I disagree with people that say the more posts the better. If I have to watch out for your posting information before I want to or info I don’t want posted, it is fucking tiresome. I control this ship. You can have differing opinons but it ain’t your soapbox and I am not here to be a hate blog for anyone.
Professor, what your saying is not true. I am on SHs site quite abit, what you are saying is simply not true. Fine, you want to bash someone go ahead but at least be fair and stop exaggerating. On occasion there are trolls on the site but for the most part the site and people are great. The site reigns people in when they get out of hand or abuse kids.
She also has trolls that stalk Reality Tea and report to her when RT has a similar post to what she posted, when RT gives full links to their reports. I have seen this for myself. And you are right. They do kiss her behind, and IMO, SH is no better than Lynn N Chicago. I wonder who she has hired to do all that horrible photoshop to those pics over there, because if she does all that, AND BLOG ON TOP OF THAT, she’s definitely batshit crazy just like I thought.
Please dom’t try to start a blogger war here. We are not interested. I am reporting on a lawsuit. Nothing more, nothing less. I don’t need trolls descending. know what I mean?
TT-SH may want to keep her name anon but Marjorie Adams is all over the internet. Pops right up on google as soon as “Stupid Housewives Lawsuit” is written. When someone has a court case they can’t remain anon-it’s not the American leagl system to remain anon if one is involved in a suit. Margorie Adams is not a very nice woman unless a poster agrees with everything she says. Not a very fun blog to say the least. TT is an amazing blog as you listen to what people have to say even if you don’t agree with them. Kudos on keeping a nice friendly site.
By the way, sorry for the wacky margins. I cut and pasted from Westlaw and WP apparently doesn’t like their formatting. I tried to fix but it’s Friday night and I am over it. Will try to fix again tomorrow.
I had come to the conclusion that SH was a South Korean man! This is the first I’ve heard about this lawsuit-WoW!
Thanks for posting the “tea” here!
Who exactly is suing SH?
Any other details that you can let us have?
Have you ever tried Pacer or ReCap for legal docs.?
I think that I owe Pacer a little $$, and they make me go through snail-mail for every transaction almost, but ReCap might have something. And Justia if there is a lot of info. available. Whew!
It is funny that SH would blame a deceased blogger-the nerve!
SH steals people’s images with impunity in my opinion, and the nastiness is endearing ’till it just looks like severe paranoia and I really can’t stand bloggers who block people just because they have their own blog or any other ridiculous reason-so I hope that justice prevails here.
Lemme get outta Tamara’s ass…yes this is verrrrrry dramatic. When blogging goes wrong…and what’s up with folks being so invested in these non celeb-celebs? Damn real life must suck if ur willing to threaten and harass a person on the behalf of someone you’ve never met. I don’t care about shit that much besides my family. Damn sure not gonna be a one woman army for a Linnethia Leakes or Kim Zolciak.
How bout for me? Would you like threaten a hw in real life for me? Cause that’s what they did on Lynn’s board. SO SCARY. I just tried to back away from that whole group and now seeing they were still threatening SH because she didn’t acknowlege her um..death? very very crazy.
I just want to have some fun here. Let’s try not to crucify people because to my shock those people read here and even if they don’t, they are people on a TV show. I just don’t get all the vitriol. Some we like better than others. Some have bad skin, some twirl for no fucking reason, but it’s not life or death, ya’ll.
which is why I have been trying to preach compassion in 2013. Not to squash opinions but to run off some of the commenters who only post hatred. I don’t need to read all that.
Its okay not to like a housewives. Its not okay to post I HATE X HOUSEWIFE BECAUSE SHE IS A VILE CUNT over and over and over and over. I think if you have such a big reaction in either direction (I’m talking to you now, Tre-huggers) then you have a problem. Comment on the show, express your opinions, mine may be different, but goddamn, it’s just TV!
Preach!!!!! It’s really not that serious! I can come here have a lil friendly back and forth and repeat for the next show. I don’t wanna read all that hateful shit either. U run a tight yet loosely ran ship. We can curse and speak freely but u don’t play with all that extra bullshit and u will quickly ban a troll if u feel necessary.
Lather, rinse, repeat……very well said, thank you.
Very well said. Thank you.
This is soooo on the $! I’m so glad you wrote that! If some bloggers would only go by that & quit fueling so much hate by allowing lies & downright pure meanness by their posts & also by the ppl who comment, those blogs would be a lot better off.
its so crazy that until i read some comments, i wasnt sure i understood what was going on correctly. i figured i had to be missing info that was somewhere in the post or elsewhere. like WUT.
Basicly it is turning into a bunch of Fuckery on all of their parts LOL Can’t wait to see what happens with all of it. Next thing we will here is Elsa will be contacting LynnN Chicago from Beyond to find out what really happend
Oh SNAP!!!
ROTfLMAO!!
People get so out of control when interacting over the internet. Say things and act in a way they normally would not. Whats the point?
EDITED! Sandybo, love you but sshhh. I cant have people who have no idea what is happenening speculating for legal reasons. Just read along. I can’t allow commenters to answer all those questions.
Duly noted !. Did not know this rule and not trying to start any trouble!!! I love you too and especially that you aren’t vicious. I think I told y’all ( I am a southern gal too) that I am done posting on Bravo because they have some trolls and if you disagree with who they are enamored of, watch out. Not allowed to swear but can rip a sista apart! It won’t happen again. I did go to all the sites and oh my! I am so lame at the computer but I do now know how to wikepedia and google which is a huge help thanks to my son in law giving me a mini lesson! I think I am caught up now. thanks for being decent about my faux pas!!!
Perhaps Stoopid wants to remain anon for other reasons. Maybe her blog is run on someone else’s time. Not that anyone is questioning why she wants to be anon.
I’m glad I didn’t hear about “Lynn”‘s passing or dislike her or anything. You know how I can be.
I’m pretty sure it made her more interesting.
I heard no one found her for two weeks and her cats had eaten her face by then.
what happens in phoenix, stays in phoenix
Tamara I agree that the judge may not have made a smart decision regarding the issue of anonymity for Stoopid but I blame her attorney for putting forth a poor argument (solely based on your post so I may be missing intel). The judge has no clue about trolls and blog wars. Rather I would think said attorney would focus on “atmosphere” of blogging overall with respect to wars and trolls and identified that as in Twitter people choose to operate under a pseudonym (aside, damn did I just spell that right on first try. go ahead me) so that they can feel more free to express their vitriol without risk of personal retaliation to home and family. To just blame it on one tiny group versus the universe at large just weakens the argument, IMO.
Hate her or love her as a blogger who works so hard to protect her identity to have it all blow wide open this way…well you sorta have to feel bad for her. Remember Lady Brooks when people allegedly outed her? But that being said if Stoopid could have avoided this whole nightmare by taking down some photos…..well then guess she has to deal with the baggage that comes from her choces.
BTW I just love the right in the middle amount of reasonably friendly snark that is allowed, yet you have the wisdom to not allow it to go to far and taint the tone of your blog and turn it into a hate fest. Good job my dear, good job.
I read SH and remember the incident. The photos were taken down immediately upon request. I don’t recall seeing watermarks on the photos. I think it was wrong for this sight to post her name and city if only because you are a fellow blogger. No one knows better than you that there are some real doozies out there.
And Cyn, you are all over SH, kissing her butt. Why don’t you stay there?
It’s a site I enjoy reading just as you do T.T. This isn’t a competition. I’m surprised it brought such a negative reaction. Thanks for being so welcoming!
I just posted below (did i mention how much I hate this nesting crap y’all insist on?) That anyone who wants to post here is more than welcome regardless of any other gang affiliations. 🙂 Seriously. It’s just some fun on the net. I’m trying to play nice. Lots of people who post here post at other blogs.
Though I don’t really see the need. KIDDING! 🙂
PS, Cyn: It’s “site” not “sight.”
Oh, gawd.
Blogs aren’t the only sites posting her name & city…so are news sites. I’ve seen plenty of pics she’s posted that she’s put her logo on & acted like they were hers..even pics from Bravo. I like reading reality blogs, especially TT, because she doesn’t act holier than thou, doesn’t befriend reality stars just to use them & get a story & gives credit where credit is due. 🙂 She also communicates with us on a very regular basis. Maybe SOME OTHER BLOGGERS *cough cough& their faithful followers…might need to take some lessons from TT & quit being downright cruel & mean to reality stars all the time 🙂 I’d never go back to some “blogs” I’ve frequented in the past couple yrs…I’m home right here 🙂
Thanks.
And SH is known for posting legal documents (just like I do). I’ve never seen her redact a name. I did not include her address. I play by the same rules for everyone. That said, i still think they should have let her fight her case anon. But once it is in the media, it’s out and there is no point in pretending like we didn’t see that.
Interesting. Weird that it’s such a big deal, if there was no watermark. I briefly went over there and in the comments she seems to imply it has to do with NJ housewives? Like it’s retribution for being so negative? She strongly implied it was because of her Manzo dislike.
Welcome!
…and thus the reason why I don’t go on Stoopid Housewives. Her site is riddled, (literally), with stoopid pictures and dumb and terrible photoshop captions, and it’s hard to understand a lick what she’s talking about, or any of her posters, who talk like they’re on a combination of pills and coke. It’s some kind of weird decoder ring you get in a cereal box language they use over there. Stoopid Housewives is more poignant on their best day than Tamara is 2 to 3 beers in lol. I don’t get her.
Also, does anyone know how Lynn N Chicago passed? I know Jillousy hated her.
Lynn had a sudden heart attack
Why would you post that? Are you the coroner? Just saying…..
Her sister and best friend wrote it on her blog after it happened and talked about heat health and started a fund for her young son. I will try and find the post.
kathy, please dont find it and post. we don’t need to know all that.
I saw that too. She had a heart attack on her 49th birthday.
Well, after reading both of your blog posts about this lawsuit, I can’t get my jaw off the floor…for many reasons. I knew before reading them that blogging can be a difficult, time consuming pursuit – but I had absolutely NO IDEA of everything that goes into it. Ever since finding your blog a few months ago, TT, I’ve appreciated the lengths you go to in order to bring us the truth. Now I appreciate you & what you do even more. Also, I agree with you – the judge should definitely allow SH to use a pseudonym. There’s just way too many crazies out there. Thank you, TT, for all of your hard work, your diligence, your time, everything you do in order to bring us the truth, you are much appreciated. : ) Reckon I better wake my hubby up & see if he can help me get my jaw off the floor. lol
my response it totally not about you dawn I made it before reading your post.
No problems, no worries. : )
Here is an example of the sort of thing I need you guys to run past me in email before posting. I’m not trying to control your opinons. You can have whatever opinons you want but PUHLEASE stop assuming I haven’t heard what you have heard and jumping in to post things here.
I probably haven’t heard SO EMAIL ME.
I dont want to start problems with other blogs.
I don’t want to be responsible for what you say.
I may not want you to say things here just because I decided I don’t want it here.
Please stop trying to BLOG in comments.
PLEASE STOP ASSUMING I DO NOT KNOW THINGS BECAUSE I DO NOT POST THEM.
ESPECIALLY STOP DOING THINGS LIKE THAT IN MY COMMENTS SECTION.
I appreaciate a “did you see this” in my EMAIL [email protected] There are so many things I miss and appreciate the heads up there. I do not want anyone no matter how much I like them to post 99 times in a comment essentially blogging their opinon. I’m sorry if that is mean and it is certainly not meant to be about Kathy. I like her just fine and this post is not about her,
If you have a soapbox to climb up on this is not the place and if you have info to share email me. that is all I am asking.
U make so much sense & this is a better place to visit than other blogs. ITA, 100%! I’m also thankful you research what you blog b4 you post it-thoroughly-U don’t just post to get a rise out of the ppl who comment here! Witch hunting isn’t fun for me when some blogs do it. Thank you, TT, for being such an up front blogger who runs a wonderful blog & where we can be snarky but definitely not get out of hand & degrade reality stars, who are people, too…problems & all 🙂
Thanks. but i don’t hold myself out to be better or worse than any other blog. I’m just doing me. I do crazy shit all of the time.. I make mistakes. I probably don’t learn from them. I am just glad you all read here.
You’re so freaking down to earth…don’t pretend to be something you aren’t, don’t care to tell someone to shut up..ETC. It’s real..from the heart…take it or leave it…love it or hate it! U don’t post things just to pacify certain people…You DO you! That’s what ROCKS!
I disagree with the summation that LynnNChicago followers are a threat. Lynn and I over at TvTime had a huge falling out over merging our sites and after just a few days had a bad break up. The specifics are not relevant any more, but the falling out with all her readers having to abruptly leave my website was not a huge problem for me. The day of of the falling out left a few nasty comments on the blog and me losing a few twitter followers, but that was it. No stalking or any other behavior which would warrant such explanations that is stated in this lawsuit. After what me and Lynn went through, none of her followers or fans came at me in a long term battle.. Oh wait.. there was a twitter account created to parody me but that lasted like 3 hours. lol
On the other hand, I completely support SH for not wanting personal info divulged. There are a few crazy stalkers who attach themselves to a following in vain to do their dirty work out of obsessions and need to have many identities to serve their own purpose of notoriety. The crazy folk whom some we have identified are truly not team anyone but themselves and are dangerous.
Now.. lets be clear, there are folk who claim to be pro this and that who are completely antagonistic. I have seen others who have been attacked in the name of Lynn but in my opinion, its about how you handle it and identfying crazy and either squishing them with fly swatters or plainly ignoring.
What ever Lynn did or didnt particpate back in the day, its completely moot now. I know what I know and a few others as well. She can’t be held responsible for a few nut jobs who have no life and continue their crazy rants or bullshit today. Nor should the people who followed her for a place to engage.
In my opinion, Lynn’s followers are not threats. Its the few who masquerade as a fan or follower who dupes the few who are gullable.
People need to wise up.
Tamara.. What I am saying.. is that they were not aweful to me. It lasted one day. Actually just maybe 3 comments that were not very flattering. But maybe obtuse. That was my experience.
I think I have done the most public thing to Lynn which I stand by today and how I handled it, but was not attacked.
Maybe its the handling of the situation is maybe what I am speaking of? Lol
I do remember when you were brand new and green and had a pic lifted off your website and was quite angry. I remember it clearly and I supported you.
But seriously.. its not like she murdered someone. You cant hate someone for theft of the blogesphere and now you are defending SH for pinching a pic in the same manner Lynn pinched YOUR PIC! LOL
I remember reading your posts with the aweful comments you got but seriously, they were not that many. You did post on Lynn’s blog your complaint instead of reaching out to her in email which gave fodder to the senseless cat and dog lovers.
You cant refute that people did take to her blog comments to connect with each other for reasons other than her content. It is what is was. “So what.. who cares” (tuggin mu collar)
It was never my cup of tea over there.. dont try so hard to make your space not the same. LOL
If SH supeanoed me I would testify on her behalf that that was not a silly thing. She got screwed. the judges should have taken tha seriously because whatever you say, I would tesitfy in a court of law tomorrow based on my own exp that the branch Lynvidias are evil people. Those people are fucking crazy.
Am I on SH side? FUCK noe. she clearly had a million times to apoligize and retract the photos.
I agree with you Ima. Most of Lynn’s commenters were middle aged and older women who talked with each other about their pets and kids as much as they did the housewives. There were definitely a few crazies over there. I lurked mostly and posted very rarely. I remember the falling out with Lynn when she merged with your blog. I also remember when Tamara was upset about the use of her picture and posted about her new blog, which is how I found this blog. Some of the pit-bulls over there jumped on Tamara (and maybe Lynn herself did?) which was rude and not unusual but honestly I’ve seen nastier commenters on Reality tea. And definitely on SH. I’ve always been fascinated by the legend of Lynn and her evil commenters. The ‘reality’ over there was that it was mostly a bunch of little grandmothers who were strangely dedicated to Lynn and each other. I thought it was a little weird but whatevs. The subculture of blogs, in particular Housewives blogs, has always been as entertaining as the shows themselves!
Ok.. just a little tough love <3 The way you are trying to sway/banter your commenters on not posting cetain comments and using the 2013 New Rules nouveau style.. Its like asking them not to post epilogues in how their vagina's hurt! LOL
Branch lynnvidians?? Did you just use a parody nicname?
Maybe I’m sensitive, but it feels sort of like a Don Caro thing that she’d never allow.
That was supposed to be under the Lyn Davidian comment, it went to the wrong place, as did my other comment. Doesn’t matter. I’ll be quiet now.
It was there when I first read it and then it popped out of nesting. Time stamps are all wonky now that were fine earlier too.
you know that the law strongly favors openness, right? The stuff she quoted was pedestrian and you aren’t going to get a judge to seal a record based on the “blogging atmosphere” or whatever.
Naa: I have no idea what you are talking about. It all sounds “pedestrian” to me. 🙂
I agree. It was reaching.
Another comment about image/graphic theft- Maybe some people will understand this better if I put it this way; Just this past week, a Paparazzo DIED while trying to get a photo. The guy who got himself killed trying to get a pic. of Justin Beiber, its been all-over TMZ etc.
These photos, ALL photos and graphics, and images are CONTENT. The last time that i checked, content is still KING online-that’s all there is!
So maybe the particular photo that SH used was not particularly “valuable”? If SH had taken that photo, or if someone had sent it to SH, we all know that she would have SCREAMED about it! (rightly so!).
Tamara-I know that you pay attention and respond when someone alerts you to any mistakes that you make when you blog, SH does the opposite. I’m starting to think that her lawyer is advising her badly, and that they may be even more responsible for the trouble that she has got herself into.
In retrospect, her trouble has been going-on for months, so when she was putting that copied from Mediatakout watermark on ALL of the images on her site, THAT may have been her “FU” to the North Jersey newspaper who asked her to stop using their image(s?). What a STOOOPID response indeed! And she has had legal advice all-along? Almost every other blogger could see where she was getting herself into some serious trouble, and if she had not been so insane, she would have got a heads-up from another blogger.(and saved the legal fees).
If I would have seen something like that here, I would have said something to you about it. But SH puts-up boundaries by alienating everyone. (like Lynn did as well).
So we just sit back and WAIT for something like that to happen. Since SH cuts-off the communication between herself and other bloggers by her bizarre behavior, we have no way of warning her when she is going too far. Too bad because SHW.com is unique, and her work is very talented. If she can afford to throw-away her money on bad legal advice, I guess that’s her business, but it is not a good way to run a website.
Since I’m writing a blog here-(sorry Tamara), I may as well say that like Ima, I mixed-it-up with Lynn publicly and even though I was threatened, and comments were posted, I was not personally destroyed by trolls for it, but I have seen some pretty bad examples like what happened to the very talented Jenn Sales, and even Real Old Housewife who never did anything to anyone has alluded to some craziness that interfered with her ability to blog and Tweet freely. The problem is when “they” have control over who gets to post and who doesn’t, (moderating ability on sites where comments are posted), and there is stuff that gets posted and it APPEARS that “anyone can post anything”—BUT, in reality, there are IPS that are blocked from posting.
“Just this past week, a Paparazzo DIED while trying to get a photo.”
This is an excellent point. But I had to stop reading 1/3 into your comment. Too long!
Can you explain that excellent point and what it has to do with this blog post and why it’s not a totally unrelated event? Thanks everso in advance.
I said there will be no follow up questions at the end of the press conference. No press today, thnx!
::squinty eyes::
VP me to.
I know within the first few words if they are regulars on TT
I have to agree with you that Marjorie SH is very nasty.
But that said, I am wondering if this particular suit is going to set any type of legal precedence for the blogging community.
I’m not sure where I read that Dina was upset with Caroline because Tommy (Dina’s hubby) was cheating and she knew and never told her sis. The hubbys are brothers and work together, so they is the Bro code going on . understandable. Is there any truth to this or is it completely fabricated?
The posts quoted in SH suit sounds like OneMoreBidet, a disgusting attack monkey who would do L’s dirty work and demand donations to Lynn personally. OMB was revealed to be a real life scammer (surprise! eye roll) which surprised – no one.
OMiB was probably still keening over the sudden demise of her mistress when she posted her hate to SH. Hopefully she has faded into the BackBay murk where she belongs..
The hateful comment to SH sound exactly like one of Lynn’s disgusting personal attack monkeys – OneMoreBidet. OneMore was summoned to discipline posters and demand donations to Lynn. IRL she was busy scamming innocent grouponers. Huge surprise. *Eyeroll*.
Hopefully OMiB has recovered from the sudden demise of her dark mistress and sunk back into the Back Bay murk where she belongs.
Hey, please be mindful when posting about peoples real names. Y’all see to want to talk about people who were “real life criminals” and such and I have no idea what you are talking about and don’t want y’all making such comments here. Legal reasons and such.
Your conscious attempt to be a more compassionate tamaratattles for 2013 is admirable. I really didn’t find anything disagreeable with the original version (except that, like most everyone, some days you seemed to go off the deep end…oh well).
I can’t say that I even understand what the crux of this lawsuit against (the very opinionated, highly volatile) Ms. SH is about or who is behind it. I would argue that, like Lynn Hudson, she set events in motion (through her acts or her failure to act) that merely followed the inevitable road. That may seem harsh to you (& with all due respect to Ima, I remember reading some pretty character assassinating conversations when she & Lynn parted company) but Ms. SH is a tough cookie. Now she is on the receiving end. I have confidence that she can cope.
Mostly what I find fascinating is the evolution of the HWs bloggers. Those that are still standing are less snarky, more tolerant of different perspectives & thoughtful in their examinations of Bravo & the HWs’ interactions. Who’s to say what future changes are in store as court rulings further define acceptability on the net.
I don’t have a dog in the fight, but have felt conflicted since reading this yesterday. There are only 3 sites I’m registered and post at. The other 2 I haven’t posted at all in a couple of months only because I have nothing to contribute. One is Lynns, and I’ve never seen the things you mention. One is a sucks board, and here. I read everywhere. I wouldn’t know the name Marjorie except for reading it HERE, so I think you did a disservice by ‘helping’. Unsure what the support/help was. But by association I feel more linked to what you call a LynDavidian. Kinda harsh.
I have no idea what you are talking about Barbinga. I’d say go to where you feel comfortable. I lived through the Branch LynDavidian era and have nothing nice to say about them. I get that some of y’all say you never noticed anything shady, but to me that is like saying you were part of the Manson family and all they did while you were there was help the homeless. I’m not buying it.
I guess if we’re going to relate it to Manson, it would be like saying as Squeaky Fromms sisters stepsons kid I am guilty by association. I get it.
I feel sort of bad for painting all of Lynn’s followers with the same brush. I am sure there are lovely people that posted there just like barbinga and Ima. I suppose it is possible and even likely they did not know what was going on behind the scenes. Ima admits to knowing but wants to diminish the extent of things that happened. I can only have opinions based on my situation which boils down to the fact that within weeks of beginning my blog I had a dozen or so people explain their dealings with Lynn to me. Y’all aren’t privy to a lot that went on behind the scenes, and I get that. There is no need to rehash it hear.
Barbinga and Ima and any other Lynn posters are that would like to post here amicably are more than welcome. It’s not like I have a list somewhere of where you guys post at besides here.
The people at Reality Tea have something they say a lot, that I really paid attention to…. “the Internet is big enough for all of us.”
Post where you feel comfortable. I want us all to be happy on the ‘net. There is enough hatred IRL we don’t need it here where we escape to talk about petty shit that doesn’t matter at all.
So I apologize to you, Barbinga, and Ima and anyone else here who enjoys a site I do not. I did not mean to make you feel unwelcome and and should not have based my opinion on everyone at Lynn’s site on her behavior and what was probably a couple dozen of her closest followers.
HAH! Your killing me! Ok I kid.. I was never a commenter on Lynn’s site and I only posted a few links for people’s consideration in comments.. which truly means.. a link to my blog. Lynn always blessed it and I was grateful.
Lynn and I outside of blog stuff were friends for a few years. Most didnt know I was an Admin on her blog for years to help her out with blog stuff even thou I was not a commentor like the rest. I helped her like she enlisted a few to help her out and I had no issue since I was an Admin of many blogs just helping out. It never dawned on me to trash someone’s blog and hope my integrity is still in tact for that trust.
We tried to merge our blogs out of mutual gains and it just did not work out actually after a few days.
I still wished her well.. and her followers moved on.
Lynn’s followers and readers did not wish me harm. There are a few folk who are nutz on a wall but in most part, the majority are lovely people. the few can not make the example for the whole.
I have never been a Lynn fam perp but in whole.. they are family in themselves. That being said.. I am privy to other things that are not OK. Told to me by the horses (Lynn’s mouth.) But how moot is that? How does that even make a difference today.. NONE.
All must move on and get a hobby.. Anyone who thinks they speak on a deceased womans behalf is nuts on a wall.. the joke.= Walnuts..
Ahh Tamara.. thanks for your admission. I have never been a Lynn blog follower but just a friend.. but the many followers who did provide a fan base I care about.
Like I said earlier.. it was not my cup of tea.. but I respect it and thank for you doing the same..
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It’s all good, Was feeling like a step child, and not in a cool Kroy will paint your fingernails kinda way.
lol
I like it better when you’re a bitch, you know your real self.
I AM TRYING TO BE A BETTER PERSON, YOU ASSHOLE. I am off to edit your obit. grr.
damn the timestamps are all sorts of fucked up. 🙁
I totally hate I can’t find the comments I want to respond to here. Thanks TellitlIikeits.
I am now finding out about the law suit. I am dismayed and in shock, over how this site is handling it than the case it’s self. So a Pittsburgh paper that no one has ever heard of ends up on your site Tamara? There was a conversation questioning how you got link and I couldn’t agree more. You’re indirectly encourging people to pass the word around, you’re insulting a deceased person, how much more repulsive can you be? Is the Manzo and Wakile clan worth it? We shall see.
There isn’t a handful of sites commenting on it out of respect for a fellow Blogger. The new Lynn blog only linked it. She didn’t post her make or make a commotion about it like you are. For anyone who disagrees, name 5.
I hope you never post a picture and the owner asks you to take it down and you do to only be sued. It’s my understanding the company has had over 30 cases in the past seven years brought against sites and people.
I think your whole purpose by trying to clue Richie in to not to add to the conspiracy that no housewives are involved is ludicrous. Furthermore, saying you’re on his side when he asked what site is going down next shows you’re character. Keep drinking and tweeting Tamara. Yes, please tweet more things like that.
You saying don’t talk about things on subjects you post about is also Bat Shit Crazy and ludicrous as well. You are posting about a Blogger, saying one thing here and another on twitter. What you are doing is interfering with with a federal goverment case that you are not qualified to even be blogging about. If you’re a teacher like you claim you should know better.
I am forwarding all your tweets, mainly the ones that are inconsistent with your comments to her attorney.
You are making false accuasations. The Blogger never water marked those photos. I remember when it happened. If this were being done to you and another blogger was handling it like this, I would indeed forward the information to your attorney. An eye is being kept on you. Bloggers should stick together instead of being selfish by trying to gain more hits. That is what you are doing, and you are also doing someone’s dirty work and you know it!
I hope whoever put you up to this compensates you well. I hear Pittsburgh is a dry town and dirty, good luck with that.
lol because bloggers don’t ever google Real housewives news. Excuse me, I am terribly busy over here with my BF Richard Wakile.
I think this person just may be someone with their panties in a wad FROM PITTSBURGH 😉 Only stupid ppl support people who are breaking the law! LOL Sounds like someone is sucking up to ANOTHER blogger hahaha!! Get outta here! Check the IP address…probably comes from PA
I’m sure TT didn’t think of that at tall.
Ps. I support a lot of law breakers. Does that mean I live in Pittsburgh? This is very confusing.
Dear lord. English is not your native language I hope. It’s funny that TT allowed your post. It show how scary your threats are. Lol. What a tool.
Really, Marjorie? Put all your energies into not getting your site “poofed.”
I have posted on SH and seen how the site is run, and from what I see the “rules” are useful. There is no bashing other commentors personally and limited profanity allowed. I also think that SH’s recently asking commentors to refrain from bashing other blogs, like this one, is very classy. I have never seen SH attack other blogs nor reveal the blogger’s identity and location either. I would hope commentors and bloggers could learn from this to stop taking everything so personally. I have seen communications from housewives and others attacking SH and threatening her to portray them positively, or else, therefore I understand why SH or ANY blogger would remain anonymous.
Sure, “rules” are useful, but only if everyone follows them. SH has her little groupies who brownnose her all day long and the rules do not apply to them. And if you are not one of her little groupies, she is often very nasty and snotty to many other posters.
I’m shocked that people even go on SH. I can’t be the only one who is confused with that site…
Interesting this was never mentioned on SH, she usually divulges all these kinds of details in an attempt to discredit whoever is accusing her of wrong doing.
Seeing as though this is a SH thread, where’d she go?