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RHONJ Finale Discussion Warning! I’m Now a Tre Hugger

September 24, 2012 by tamaratattles 67 Comments

I don’t even know where to begin to discuss last night’s finale. Let’s start at the salon. I did get an answer to the question of why Baldy was even at the salon with a mic on walking into a scene being filmed. He didn’t work at the salon at all. He was there just for the scene. No big shocker there. So Baldy was a plant there to put the whole “set-up” into action. What I still fail to understand is why anyone believes his whole conversation with the fat lady at the cake table. Clearly, Baldy was called in to be a shit disturber. Anything he said all night was scripted crap not some overheard conversation he didn’t know was being taped.

Also at the salon where Kim D is gleefully spewing about Melissa to Baldy, the editing is such that it appears Tre was just around the corner listening. Tre has denied this saying she was downstairs. The editing on this episode was pretty awful. Kim D has a “frankenbite” where she calls Tre back into the room and the editing shoes Tre’s feet as if she was right outside. If we have learned anything from the Real Housewife franchises, it’s that any sound editing that doesn’t show the speaker is patched over later, as a “frankenbite” to make it appear something happened that did not for the purposes of the storyline.

Let’s talk about the fashion show. Caroline arrives and says it took her an hour and a half to find the place. But later, Melissa calls Joe in the bathroom and he arrives with a mic pack on what appears to be a short time later. Also, for a target, Melissa seems cool as a cucumber. Innocent little Jac doesn’t go to the bathroom with Melissa to give her a heads up. No, our innocent Jac sits at the table and texts with who I now firmly believe was a producer (yes, I saw her tweet denying this, I no longer believe Jac) and then passes it to Lauren and Caroline so they can be in on the set-up too. Nary a Manzo or a Laurita does a thing to alert Melissa. They just keep texting with the producers. This leads me to believe that Melissa knew what was going on the entire time. It looks to me like Teresa was the only one blindsided last night. That’s just my non Tre Hugger opinion.

I know I am not going to convince anyone that Tre is the one who was set up. I would think that as someone who has not been very supportive of Tre and as someone who has pointed out Tre’s lies this season, that perhaps it will give some of you pause. The fact that I believe Tre was set up in this case doesn’t mean I am ignoring her jealousy of Melissa, her lies about the ten magazine articles she gave, her delusions about her marriage and her entire life.  I’m just saying that this big finale set-up about nothing was done to make Teresa look bad, not Melissa.  And for many people, myself included, Bravo’s big plan backfired.

The real story here is Jacqueline. The very next morning after the Posche Fashions Show was the reunion for the previous season. Everyone was able to make it except for Jacqueline. Why? The Gorga family has been torn asunder! Melissa has been exposed as a stripper! Tre is the villain! Kathy is part of this family that was broken! Yet they all made it to the reunion. Why was poor delicate Jac so hurt by Tre that she could not show up to a mandatory reunion show?  Jac sure spent a lot of time on twitter the days after the PFS tweeting angry tweets. Jac was hopping mad. Could it be that one line of Tre’s that I felt was so laughable until I actually watched the show, “Someone is getting set up here and it’s me! And you are a part of it!” I saw yes. No one expected Teresa to see through Jaq, especially Jaq.  And Jaq has spent the last year being very defensive.

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Who was the only one out of the loop and made to look like a fool? Teresa. So I am not ready to label myself a Tre Hugger. Tre still lives in a fantasy world where everything is unicorns and rainbows. But I would give her a hug in this case.

And next week on the finale, who is once again irate, over-reacting to things that do not even concern her and swearing on her autistic child (her exact words) at the finale next week. That would be sweet innocent Jac. I wonder why of all the parties involved, Jac, who is supposedly not involved at all is so pissed off. Thoughts?

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  1. Kellie242 says

    September 24, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    LOL I do believe that Tre was not a part of “Stripper Gate” but I can not be a “Tre Hugger”.

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    • Tampabay says

      September 24, 2012 at 4:33 pm

      I read this off Another site

      donnalee says:
      September 24, 2012 at 10:25 am
      LOL I woke up to a DM from her about something I said to someone else about her setting Teresa up. I don’t follow her so I could not DM her back and when I tried to *follow* her, I was blocked!! WTH is up with that childish shit. Anyway, the answer to all her questions about why Teresa did or did not do, it was all a BRAVO set up that SHE was a part of and now has to live with that decision, this morning while Melissa will be chatting up her victim story on Wendy only because they kiss the butt of Wendy’s PR girl Margo!… Teresa is focusing on her products and getting ready for AndersonCooperLive…Jacqueline is at home on Twiiter because she was the fool who gave up a friendship for Bravo and now has to live with it. No matter what she writes, from last night, on she will be known at the fool who gave up a friendship for Bravo. BLK will go into the can along with the Brownstone sauce and Cafface will follow and the only way anyone will read Caroline’s book will be when it gets to the Dollar Tree! Stupid stupid people should have known that you stay away from management. You got burned. Melissa’s songs will never go to a famous label (unless she finally gets a voice coach) and kathy’s desserts will go no where on QVC, since people are already boycotting QVC because of last night. Note: to Jac..Grow UP and guess what..maybe you should have just been a friend who stood by Teresa no matter how she feels about her family!

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      • Tc says

        September 25, 2012 at 11:11 am

        I don’t get that.

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    • Paula says

      September 24, 2012 at 4:37 pm

      Agree! Can’t ever be a Teresa fan, no matter how much production, Jersey area leeches, or the like around her may be guilty of helping hang her with the huge coil of rope she’s collected over the seasons. But Bravo re: the drama, pardon the pun.

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  2. ehh.... says

    September 24, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    Very well put put Tamara. Not a Tre Hugger here. Sorry! I will say that I was shocked when Jacqueline swore on her Autistic child. ARE YOU SERIOUS??? My jaw was on the floor. Number one, you don’t swear on your kids, your mama, etc, but your child who is special needs? I never thought she would play the Autism Card. As a parent of a child who is on the Autism Spectrum (PDD-NOS) I was disgusted. I thought she was better than that.

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    • Tc says

      September 24, 2012 at 2:08 pm

      I called that awhile back. Watch her twitter account (I can’t because I’m blocked for calling her a pizza face). She will tweet several combative tweets. And the. Move behind autism where she thinks she can not be touched. I’m astounded that any of the charities would ever want her to be a spokesperson. But I guess that’s where her money will come from now.

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      • ehh.... says

        September 24, 2012 at 2:56 pm

        I really liked Jacqueline, and I totally understood some of her behavior (crying, excessive drinking, arguing with friends) because that is such a hard time in a person’s life. BUT, to swear on your child with a disability is wrong.

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      • donnalee says

        September 24, 2012 at 10:58 pm

        She better never try to bring her spokesperson ass to our Philly PA area because I will make sure she does not get to speak. I am not Teresa and will have no problem outing her. We have 8 grandchildren and 2 have some form of Autism. I do not want a creep like that near them or to speak to them or for them.

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      • Critter says

        September 25, 2012 at 6:05 am

        Pizza face, lmao…

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    • ebonye bee. (@ebonyebee) says

      September 24, 2012 at 6:47 pm

      They have all swore on their kids this whole season. Autistic or not don’t be putting your wishes on your kids.

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      • tamaratattles says

        September 24, 2012 at 7:00 pm

        I am pretty immune to people swearing on their kids. But Jaq singling out nicolas to swear on saying “I swear on my autistic kid!” had a very chilling effect. It just seemed different.

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      • ebonye bee. (@ebonyebee) says

        September 24, 2012 at 8:56 pm

        a kid is a kid. wishing death on any kid is terrible, period.

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      • ehh.... says

        September 24, 2012 at 9:03 pm

        I stated that as well in my first post about not swearing on anyone, but I agree with Tamara, Jacqueline’s statement had a chilling effect. I was speechless and NUMB when it was said. I saw her as a different person at that point.

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  3. michelle cornwell says

    September 24, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    Ok I posted this on your blog last night but I still believe it (would love your feedback)so:
    Back to realty! I Think this episode for Teresa was be careful what you wish for. I do believe she was trying to get Jac to say something to Mel about stripping early on in the season but she declined. When Melissa was being nice on camera and was becoming more likable it pissed Teresa off and Her minion, Kim D, took action. It would publicize her fashion show and help out a friend(fellow business woman). T became apprehensive and Kim said don’t worry you’ll have nothing to do with it, it’s on me. Teresa not knowing the particulars was nervous and maybe somewhat remorseful. But then manages to convince herself that she didn’t;t do nothin, right?right? Kim worked it for producers to have baldy Miked. He clearly outed the mission on audio. Then the Producer texted Jac, The producer is allegedly friends with many of the cast including T. The producers definitely wanted a juicy show but I don’t think any other cast members knew about it . The whole shit is crazy but I believe Jac is sincere and Caroline has had a rough year and was raw and bitchy but real. Melissa and Kathy are looking for there 15 minutes and Teresa is paying the bills

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    • Kellie242 says

      September 24, 2012 at 2:19 pm

      I can see your points very well

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    • tamaratattles says

      September 24, 2012 at 6:59 pm

      I don’t know what else you want me to say that I didn’t say in the posts. I don’t think Caroline or Kathy had any real involvement in this. The hit dog that has been howling for a year appears to be Jacqueline.

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    • itsa says

      September 24, 2012 at 7:50 pm

      I agree that Kim D was behind this. Based on T’s behavior at the salon and at dinner, I believe she knew what was about to happen and didn’t step in to stop it—that’s why her heart was pounding—the guilt and fear she’d get called out.
      I highly doubt the Manzo’s or Laurita’s had anything to do with any of it. I just don’t believe it.

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      • donnalee says

        September 24, 2012 at 11:09 pm

        Honestly I think the whole cast knew what production had planned…what Teresa did not know is that she was going to be the target for the whole thing. She may have known that it was set up to have this guy go to a salon..she would come in..and he would tell her that he knew Melissa and she danced for him. I don’t believe that she knew he was coming to the PFS. When we hear the audio clips but never see him talking word for word..he is just telling people that Teresa knew what he told her. Not once did he ever say that Teresa knew he was going to be there that night..he was there and he was mic’d so we KNOW it was Bravo who sent him there while having a producer send texts to Jacqueline to tell Melissa it was Teresa who set it all up. And like the fool that Jacqueline is, she did it! She listened to Caroline and did exactly what Bravo told her to do. Stupid! And yes, the Manzo’s knew what was going down because they were shown the texts.

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    • Michelle Washington says

      September 25, 2012 at 6:02 am

      I concur! I thought the same thing. Teresa and Kim D. hatched this plan prior to Mission Rebuild the Family. Kim, not having as much camera time this seaon as in prior seasons,really needed the publicity and facetime and didn’t allow Tre to back out of the deal to slander Melissa. *Note:Kim D. has been trying for a spot in the cast for years!She was likely highly resentful that Melissa got a spot and she hadn’t…further fueling her fire. Plus-everyone in Franklin Lakes knows that if you want to be on camera, you need only talk crap about Melissa to Teresa!
      So, Kim D. let Tre out of “the plan” but went along as scheduled with Baldy. Teresa looked very uncomfortable and was the most passionate about finding Baldy before her brother got there. She nearly tore the place apart looking for him. Why?
      And, exactly why wss Pete Giudice there? Could it be because Joe is on parole and can’t get into any trouble? So, he sends his even more unattractive brother in his stead.Then, we see Pete lifting Tre and congratulating her on “doing good” while laughing an evil laugh. He the plan and was there to handle Joe Gorga in case Melissa called for back up. Or, to take care of Baldy in case he tripped out on Tre for not going along.
      These people are sick!
      And, God bless all children…but, who cares if Jac swore on HER OWN autistc child? If she swore on your kid, get upset. But, all this outrage over a woman talking about her own child is ridiculous! She didn’t offer him as a living sacrifice. She didn’t make a sweeping generalization about ALL autistic children. Get off her jock! The woman was just starting to deal with learning that her son has challenges, likely just learning what those challenges are, and she had just gone through so much with Ashlee just months prior! As mothers, one would imagine there would be more empathy for the timeline of events in her life. Jac had just lost a valued friendship TWICE and she was dealing with her autistic child. That may be a regular Tuesday morning for some, but to Jac (who is obviously emotionally fragile) it was too much to handle while arguing with Teresa at the reunion show. Have a heart, dammit!

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      • irisheyzzz says

        September 25, 2012 at 12:18 pm

        From what I’ve read, Pete Giudice was there with his wife.

        Jac is so distraught over Tre’s alleged set up of Melissa, she couldn’t make the taping of the finale and they can no longer be friends, yet Jac is still friends with KimD? And Jac spent the night being “consoled” by KimG?

        Something is rotten in Franklin Lakes and I think her name begins with a J.

        I absolutely loath everyone in this franchise including Theresa, but she was not the mastermind behind what happened here. No way, no how.

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      • Renee Lawhun says

        September 25, 2012 at 2:03 pm

        Best synopsis of the PFS I’ve read anywhere. Especially your insight into Jac’s psyche. She is emotionally fragile, insecure about her weight and looks (this dumbfounds me) and dealing with a special needs child. As far as swearing on her child….that seems to be a Jersey thing. Tre has done it several times and Mel did it on the finale also.

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      • Katrina says

        September 25, 2012 at 3:03 pm

        I just don’t get it. Jaquelines reaction is totally off. Why would Jaqueline be mad at Teresa for exposing Melissa? Even if Melissa was a stipper, why would anyone care but her husband. Melissa and Joe G. have been married for a while and have 3 children, why in the world would he care at this point if she use to be a stripper!! It seem to me that Jaqueline and Caroline are reacting to something, but has nothing to do with Melissa being setup to look like a stripper.

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  4. Key says

    September 24, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    I agree with you Jaqueline and Caroline set it all up! That’s why Jaqueline sent the text to Joe Gorga and of you notice Jacqueline and Caroline stayed until the end! I wouldn’t be surprise of Melissa was apart of the setup to turn Joe Gorga against Teresa again! #teamteresa

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    • tamaratattles says

      September 24, 2012 at 2:26 pm

      If you think Caroline cares one way or the other then you don’t agree with me. Neither set it up. But Both just sat there reading texts from the prods while it all went down. Melissa and Joe were totally in on it and knew it was coming.

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      • Critter says

        September 25, 2012 at 6:17 am

        Think it was Caroline who told Joe that he had come so far
        and not to mess it up by going in & confronting Pete and Tre,
        what trouble was Joe in? And what’s the beef with Pete?
        Always thought folks who’s first reaction is anger hadn’t
        grown up enough to think through a situation before reacting,
        seems most of the cast have this problem…

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  5. Tamar voice says

    September 24, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Good job Ms. Tattles. Jacqueline is a snake. Let’s not forget who her good friend was at the beginning of Season 1. She definitely knows how to spin things. I also believe she has a stripper past…she and Danielle were good friends for a reason.

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    • Critter says

      September 25, 2012 at 6:18 am

      Agree…

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  6. Carol says

    September 24, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    Tamara Im sort of new to your blog but I was wondering how do reality TV shows do the commentary/confession part? I noticed Teresa has had the same outfit on several episodes. Do they do it after the taping of the season or during or what?

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    • tamaratattles says

      September 24, 2012 at 6:57 pm

      Depends. They do it in batches of a few shows after they are mostly done editing. The last time is for the last few episodes. Sometimes they need to reshoot something from early episodes and they have them get back into the same outfit right down to the giant earrings. 🙂

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  7. Mimsy says

    September 24, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    I do not think Jac had anything to do with it. Or Caroline. I wanna know who this ‘mutual friend’ is. IS it a producer or some chick. Idk. I also dont think Melissa knew anything about it.

    I think Teresa knew about it. I don’t think she’s 100% responsible. I think that Kim D hatched everything and let it flow. But Teresa went along. I do think that after that guy said what he did at the salon, Teresa should have called Mel and told her. That was shady. Im sure it was HOURS in between the salon and the actual show. Why not give Mel a heads up or something? had she done that I think a lot would have been avoided. But then we wouldnt have a finale……

    Sidebar: The parameters of time is so confusing. The fashion show was the night before the S3 reunion was filmed…but s4 finale was the night before?? Whatttt??

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  8. Joi says

    September 24, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    I believe that the whole thing was staged to be a ratings grabber I don’t believe these women at all after watching Melissa on Wendy today it became very clear that this was all a set up on the fans they really believe they r on some sort of soap opera and don’t mind making themselves and fam look bad for the stretch of their 15 min and for money like I said earlier they were probably all sitting together teething and enjoying the drama unfold and if they weren’t together they each were in their big homes laughing waiting on the bank to open this morning ……it’s a sad joke to me I’m over the RHONJ and RHOA just ridick

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    • Katrina says

      September 25, 2012 at 2:45 pm

      Of course the production company set it up, the same way they set Daniel up in season 1. Although there is no actual script to go by, the production company knows what kind of story they are going to tell. Some of the story, the women know about and some of it is only known by production. This is how they can sometimes get a true reaction from them. There are also parts where production pieces together what they want to happen. The power of editing. At the end of the day, it is a television show. There are no rules on how much of the show is actually real unedited footage.

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  9. We Found Love in a Hopeless Place says

    September 24, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    Yasss Tamara! You finally see the light lol

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  10. Vp says

    September 24, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    “frankenbite”
    Lol

    For the most part I agree. I only caught a couple of scenes but it was all so “earnest”. Like you, I just don’t buy what their selling and I’m really hating the whole lot of them! Jac, Caroline and Kathy have GOT to go, IMO.

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    • tamaratattles says

      September 24, 2012 at 6:55 pm

      Frankenbite is an actual production term. It is funny!

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  11. Stephen (@NewJerzeyBoy) says

    September 24, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    Why Andy Cohen didn’t have the whole cast of RHONJ drive off a cliff in an RV, I will never know. I do know that Andy Cohen and his crew at Bravo sure know what they are doing. Andy’s job is to deliver ratings for the Bravo Channel and he is doing a very good job of it.
    So Jac swore on her autistic child, who cares, it will never hold up in court.
    Was Teresa in on this whole thing, who cares, it got you people talking about the show.
    It’s a tv show. It’s entertainment I don’t like Teresa, but I think she makes a good villain and is the star of the show this season. This is exactly what she wants. So good for her.
    Was Melissa a stripper, maybe, but I doubt it. If she had been a stripper, I am sure the club would have capitalized on it in someway. Plus if she was a “dancer” why did she have to hire Choreographer Cris Judd to show her how to dance for that music fest she appeared at.
    The truth of the matter is, these “ladies” know what they signed up for. They all want their 15 minutes of fame and all the money that goes along with it. If they are so disgusted with each other they have every right not to renew their contracts.
    The people I feel sorry for are the morons that buy these products that these “housewives” promote. What a bunch of suckers.

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    • Marty says

      September 24, 2012 at 9:26 pm

      I buy the products!!!!

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      • donnalee says

        September 24, 2012 at 11:15 pm

        Me too…I have all 3 cookbooks, raspberry fabellini, and we just got our Milana Hair Care! Other than those things..the only other HW products I have bought are Bethenny’s Daily Cleanse and I am afraid to use it…*LOL*

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    • Katrina says

      September 25, 2012 at 3:27 pm

      What’s the big deal! We buy everything else off of TV and through magazine ads (stompeeze, proactin, thigh master, etc.) People spend their money on what they want to buy.

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  12. Danielle says

    September 24, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    Tre can’t pronounce coincidence?

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  13. LisaN says

    September 24, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Tamara, You hit a home run with this recap. The evil network took the autism out of the video. I never even liked Teresa until season 3 reunion. I was always a Caroline fan. I starting questioning the cookbook. Please was it necessary for Teresa to put in those comments, no, but hey bashed her all through season 3 and made fun of her.
    Jac has issues get off the show and take care of your two young sons, my god all the houseewives sell crap, go do it. Melissa why are you doing Botox at 33 you are pretty now you are looking catfty like Gretchen. This thing was staged and Teresa in her lala land fell right into it. Congratulations Bravo you ruined three friendships and two families. I know these people signed up for it I hope in 5 years when they fade into oblivion if they will think it was worth. Yes I am now a tre-hugger. My hugs go to her elderly parents who need it the most.

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  14. likesphotoshop says

    September 24, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Tams, I think Kim G. Texted jac also bc Kim said last yr that bravo producers were texting her asking her if she was going to the show and she said no bc of what happened at M house. Her and Monica getting kicked out of M s house that was the.ast straw bc K said producers kept asking her to go to M party as well, she goes and gets kicked out, she was done. Another screwed up time line, unless they filmed that scene (Joe and M x mas party) after x mas of 2010 and decorated. I swore I read somewhere that they filmed frm March 2011 up to the fashion show, then did extras.
    6 months ago an article came put again Kim G saying that Jac was at her house while they taped the reunion, she wanted to see the extra of the producers asking her to go to the party, she wanted to see for her self. She also said the night of the fashion show, she watched the whole thing frm the balcony of a condo she owns by where it was at. Bravo didn’t know she had the property. HA!
    Danielle was also invited too.
    What ppl fail to realize anyone who gets Mic up, they have to sign a contract too, they just don’t let random ppl film. I also heard that Antelope wasn’t really working for Penny and John for the day either, they were just to go along with it and say yes, then Penny was promised it would benefit her.
    Also, first M says her friend owned lookers, oh I already tweeter that to u in that twitlonger no sense repeating lol.

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  15. likesphotoshop says

    September 24, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Damm touch pad. Errors
    * Jac wanted to see the texts, no extra lol. I hate you Auto Correct.

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  16. Cornelia Sanders says

    September 24, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    I’m completely done with the RHoNJ mess of a show. I went completely blank forgot all the other BS that was going on in the episode once TreApe called another woman the “c” word. This BITCH is the perfect example of the kind woman that no woman would want to be. How can you possiblly refer to another women in such a demeaning way. I damn near lost it so foul, and so out of order as Iylana Vanzant would say. TreApe is the shining example of “white trash.” I have nothing for her EVER again.

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    • tamaratattles says

      September 25, 2012 at 2:21 pm

      Frankly, I’d rather adults just use whatever insulting profanity they intend. I’d much rather have someone call me a cunt than use childish language like TreApe. Whatever that even means. Or god forbid the “c” word. Huge pet peeve. We are not five reporting on a sibling saying a bad word.

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      • Tc says

        September 26, 2012 at 2:31 pm

        Cunt!

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      • tamaratattles says

        September 26, 2012 at 2:39 pm

        Prostitution whore!

        Which reminds me. Tre has been calling women offense names since season one. Apparently ‘cunt’ was her breaking point. /shrugs

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  17. tamaratattles says

    September 24, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Bravo has edited the preview where Jaq swears on her “autistic child” to remove the word autistic and to delete Caroline telling he not to say such things. Guess they got a LOT of criticism and negative feedback from the Autism charities.

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    • donnalee says

      September 24, 2012 at 11:17 pm

      Ohhh I am sure that they did..another idiot move on the part of bravo…really they need to fire production and editing also…the kids from iCarly can do a better job! *LOL*

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  18. Mike says

    September 24, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    I found that comment a little crude myself. I hate it when anybody swears on their children, parents or spouses life. Swear on your own life and leave family and friends out of it. If your an honest person to begin with there is no need in the first place. Those who dont believe you still wont after you swear you are telling the truth.

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  19. Tc says

    September 24, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    I wish someone would photoshop Baldy on a bunch of milk cartons.

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  20. Blaque says

    September 25, 2012 at 12:11 am

    Read an interview that the bald guy (Angelo) did last night. He states that his 1st time ever meeting Tre was at the salon. Tre did not ask/invite him to go come to the show. There was no plan or set agreement to expose anyone that night on his or her part. I I whole-heartedley believe HE WAS PAID to say that 1 little line. But now he cant talk about it cause of the mini contract he may have signed to appear on the show. In what context was this line being said? Who was he talking to? What Jac was saying about the alleged texts of her friend saying she’s been planning this with whoever for 2 weeks is a lie according to Angelo. Also, Jac implied that that T was with him having a convo and laughing with him at the party. LIES. Who is this friend? How cozy for this friend to text her in the calm of the storm. That night. Why didnt she warn her earlier in the day or whenever she found out? I can bet she didnt just find out that night. Thats why I think its a producer or someone like Kim G who wants a spot on next season. I hate how fake/weak willed Jac has become cause she was T’s friend 1st. Why did she warn Caroline/Melissa 1st rather than checking with T to see what was true? The friendship way over by now cause you can see where her ass kissing loyalty are. Whoever Caroline likes. So Jac broke down when T called her out and Jac was so hurt and oblivious to what she did. She was 1 of the 1st who say “I think T set it up”. When Joe came and tried to put it together himself and somewhat took up for T. Jac shut it down and put a different wild theory in his head. She ran to that car EXCITED that someone gave her the tea. She implied and lied on her like I stated earlier. Then when she was confronted she hid her tail was about to break down in tears.

    The ppl who believe Tre did it cannot explain in full detail how or why Teresa set it up. Just pure speculation based on Teresa’s alleged superficial jealousy of Melissa and her past. Aside from her looks, what is one hating on? How Melissa performs at local mall parking lots and has a song on itunes? Jac decided to online 16 points of why and how Teresa may have done it but they all can easily be counter-exampled and are far fetched. Which scenario seems more plausible 1. Tre setting this elaborate scheme up to expose Melissa even though it was a fail. 2. Teresa yelling in an argument “I heard you were a stripper bitch! Your ex manager told me!”. Tre is messy and loves drama. But she is not calculating. Her drama is rushed and sporadic. If Tre gets too frustrated in an argument she flips tables and wants to fight. Im not team Tre, but sometimes you just need to use logic.

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    • Tamar voice says

      September 25, 2012 at 12:35 pm

      I agree. She became frustrated during her argument with Caroline while in Napa, and resorted to violence by grabbing Kathy’s face.

      I’m a Teresa fan and I do believe she played a part in the setup. LOL…but I hate how everyone is paying so much attention to the setup and not focusing on what came out of the setup… that Melissa is a former stripper! LOL. Nothing wrong with shaking your tail for money in my book, but I just want this girl to own it and stop being a liar. Everyone wants to call Teresa a liar, but surely her copycat is one too!!!!

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      • Tc says

        September 25, 2012 at 6:14 pm

        Lol. Grabbing your cousins face to make her look at you is “violence”? You’re not Italian, are you. You’d think my family reunion was as bad as the embassy steps in Syria.

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  21. ZamySalB says

    September 25, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    I was BLOCKED 2x! So I must say that I agree 100% with this post.I do sales and in my business we are always warned to not sell something too hard bc people won’t buy it. That is what I have felt from the ladies all year. ESPECIALLY Jax. She is so angry herself…WHY? I don’t get it. Is it bc she figured out the plot? Also, she won;t reveal the source. Why bc she needs to keep getting insider info from her secret “friend” to throw T under the bus?

    Also it has been one HUGE hate fest with Teresa as the target. WHY? That is what I don’t get. I feel like the whole season has focused on bashing her. Teresa even tries to just ignore it (yes a lil fake IMO) but they could have kept things cordial. It’s not like they are really going to be BFF’s anymore. Heck even Nene and Kim say hi to each other and may eventually be friends again. I still don’t see where they are hugely offended by Teresa. Even Lauren jumps in and I don’t get why. Blaming her lap band on Teresa. …Did we watch the same season with her own mom caling her fat…her own father saying. She thinks if she whines enough Daddy will give in and get her a lap band. So who exactly was encouraging her daughter to get a lap band? Obviously they want to have Teresa be the bad guy. Which is disgusting bc if her weight was SUCH a problem why didn’t she get healthy? I am a bigger girl and I luvs my curves! I don’t need to be skinny to feel validated. I don’t get her with her whole bc of ppl like u. WOW! The Manzos really are reaching on that one….

    Also, Melissa thinks that now bc she was involved in some drama she is a major playa on the show. She ISN’T. No one cares….Does any one know how US Weekly did with her on the cover? They are probably upset they put her on. Yuck!

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    • Tc says

      September 25, 2012 at 6:18 pm

      Yeah. Funny how her mother is the one who repeatedly told Lauren that she was not good enough and called her an asshole. Maybe Teresa is indirectly responsible for the Lapband. Teresa’s success mad Caroline bitter. Bitter Caroline lashed out and projected her own bitter insecurities onto Lauren. Who is a sheltered, spoiled brat who was obviously raised in an over indulgent atmosphere, where children were allowed to not only be heard, but to also allowed to be disrespectful and inappropriate.

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  22. Ana Banana Ana says

    September 25, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    wow with friends like Jac, who wants enemies?

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  23. Ivy says

    September 25, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    A lot of people are referring to the finale as “The Boy Who Cried Wolf” episode, and I’m starting to agree. The theory is that , for ONCE, Teresa was not culpable (technically, anyway) and could have gotten away with this had she just sat there and kept her mouth shut.

    Teresa’s only part in this, from her POV anyway, was to just sit there and watch Melissa freak out when Bald Guy confronted her. Except that Melissa not only didn’t freak out, she didn’t even recognize him.

    Teresa was then forced to follow Melissa into the bathroom, NOT to warn her, but to pursue the matter of “Who WAS that guy?” further. Melissa, herself, couldn’t have cared less. But Teresa kept babbling about, “Well den why’d he SAY it?” to the point where Melissa got suspicious and figured out what was what.

    So she called Teresa’s brother, which sent Teresa into a wild panic. Why? She was just relaying what she heard, right?

    The funniest part to me was the ending, where there were STILL phony witnesses popping up out of nowhere (friends of Pete, maybe?) to Melissa’s stripping days. The look on Teresa’s face was hilarious — the jig was up and no one had yet clued the players in.

    No wonder she turned and ran out of the room, mumbling, “I don’t want to hear this, I don’t want to hear this.” I imagine till the end of her days Teresa’s going to be seeing obliging witnesses jumping out of the bushes at her to confirm the lie that Teresa started.

    I love irony.

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    • Ivy says

      September 25, 2012 at 9:51 pm

      The exchange she had with Kathy when she got back to the table further confirmed this for me:

      Kathy: “Melissa said she didn’t recognize that.”
      Teresa: “Yes, she did!”
      Kathy: “And besides, he looked like he only wanted to make trouble.”
      Teresa: “No, he didn’t!”

      Her only part in this was SUPPOSED to have been to just sit back and watch all of this go down. She was forced to “get involved” the minute Melissa said, “I think I’ve seen that guy somewhere before, but I forget from where. Anyway, who cares?”

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      • Tc says

        September 25, 2012 at 11:09 pm

        She never said “no he didn’t” to Kathy.

        I guess if you want it hard enough, you can make your fantasies come true. Both sides are doing that.

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      • Ivy says

        September 25, 2012 at 11:26 pm

        I was paraphrasing. The point is that Teresa continued to try her damnest to validate this asshole to Kathy, even AFTER Melissa had told her he was lying.

        I think that Kim D and Bald Guy told Teresa that he was Melissa’s ex-boss and that she either just willingly believed it (based on what, again?), or HAD TO PRETEND to believe it. Because, if you think about it, what else could she do? She’d been spreading rumors about Melissa being a stripper for years.

        The problem was that the guy was lying, the “plan” fell through (Melissa didn’t recognize him), and he wound up running for the hills. Which left Teresa with a whole lot of ‘splaining to do.

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      • Tc says

        September 26, 2012 at 2:33 pm

        YOU CAN’T SAY I WAS PARAPHRASING WHEN YOU SAID SHE SAID SOMETHING HAT SHE NEITHER SAID NOR IMPLIED!!! In fact, se repeatedly said THE OPPOSITE.

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  24. Ivy says

    September 25, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    didn’t recognize that *guy*

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  25. Tamar voice says

    September 26, 2012 at 9:51 am

    Melissa did in fact remember him though. She tried to play it off like she didn’t, but as Teresa questioned her in the bathroom, she mistakenly and reluctantly admitted that she worked for him. Did you miss that part?

    I think Teresa played her part in this fiasco, but she got too involved when her only role was to watch from afar. If she kept it cool, her third-party involvement would have remained somewhat a mystery, and Melissa still would have been exposed. The look on her face when Baldy approached her said it all.

    She’s such a liar!

    Joe Gorga knew when he married Melissa that she was a former stripper, but that part of her past was supposed to be “their” little secret, because if his family ever found out, they would never approve of her. That’s why Melissa is always so quick to say, “I told my husband about it…my husband knows me.” Yeah, he knows…but they surely don’t want anybody else to know, especially Joe’s parents and Teresa!

    Furthermore, Joe is so insecure about the fact that she was a former stripper, which is why he was so hurt when Teresa said that if a guy with more money came along, Melissa would leave him. He knows in his heart it’s true! Nene (former stripper) left Greg for the next highest bidder (the guy who bought her all the gifts); Kim Zolciak (former stripper) left Big Poppa for the next highest bidder (Kroy); Amber Rose (former stripper) left Kanye once she realized that well ran dry and went to the next highest bidder (Wiz Khalifa)….should I say more?

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    • Ivy says

      September 26, 2012 at 10:58 am

      So what you’re saying is that Teresa WAS trying to expose Melissa as a stripper on national TV. The only thing we disagree about is that you think Melissa was lying about not being a stripper and I don’t.

      Either way, how is that an excuse for what Teresa tried to do? What she did, in fact, was pick up the ball from where Bald Guy left off — since HE couldn’t get her to admit that she worked for him as a “dancer” (much less recognize him), SHE WOULD. Her intent was to publicly humiliate her on national TV. Her mistake was in thinking that Melissa would freak out over it; instead she laughed at her and called her brother. Which was hilarious.

      And btw, where did Bald Guy run off too?

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      • Ivy says

        September 26, 2012 at 11:04 am

        Wait a minute. That means she WAS part of the set-up. So much for my “Boy Who Cried Wolf” theory.

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      • Tc says

        September 26, 2012 at 2:34 pm

        You’re um…..you’re not…very….oh nevermind.

        Reply

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