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Real Housewives of Atlanta: The Great Race Debate

February 22, 2012 by tamaratattles 11 Comments

Out of nowhere there is a whole lot of blogging going on over at the official Bravo site. Kim has posted a few tweets lately that indicate she is a bit pissed off by Kandi’s comments in South Africa. Much has been made about Kim not going on the trip. It seems pretty obvious to me that Kim was breastfeeding KJ at the time and Kroy was heading off to camp and ten days in South Africa was just not a choice. Of course Peter decides to play the race card by saying that Kim would not go to an African country, on the trip,Cynthia is appointed to replay the race card, and Kandi seems to agree with it, and then the whole orphanage drama gets brought into the mix. If you think this was not instigated by Bravo, you are not thinking very clearly. Now that they are back home, Cynthia and Kandi take to the blogs for the first time in ages to contradict the editing that Bravo gave them.

First up is Cynthia:

I really don’t care what Kim thinks about me, and I know she that she don’t care what I think about her. Hello! I’m not her girl, Kandi is. So understandably Kim was not a happy camper when Kandi said her comments on the safari. I thought we were just having “small” talk. I could barely remember exactly what either of us had said by the time Sheree called to drop dime. So stupid! All of these girls have said all kinds of crap about each other, pulled wigs, produced free songs, and they still kiss and makeup. However I was a bit surprised that Kandi said anything that might piss Kim off, because I know they are best buds and go on vacations together. Anyway, I’m sure apologies have been made by now, and they have made up. I don’t think Kim is a racist.

Click through to see how Kandi distances herself from the Bravo script.

It seems Kandi had a whole lot to get off her chest.

So on to my dispute with Sheree. First off, I do not think Kim would have gone to Africa, even if she hadn’t just had the baby, and I don’t see her spending time at an orphanage, especially not the one we went to in Africa. I said it then and I said it to Kim when we discussed it later (which you will see on next week’s episode), AND I STILL SAY IT NOW. That’s my opinion, but I wasn’t trying to diss Kim by saying that. It caught me off guard when Sheree first asked Kim, “If you could have come, would you have come? Because Kandi didn’t seem to think you would have come. Hours had passed since that conversation in the car, and Sheree never once said anything to me to make me feel like I said anything inappropriate until that moment. But even then it didn’t bother me, because I did say I didn’t think she would come. I just responded by saying , “I didn’t see you hanging out in Africa, especially with people you weren’t really getting along with,” which is true. But then Sheree comes back with, “No, it wasn’t that. You said you didn’t see Kim at an orphanage holding little black kids.” That pissed me off. I knew I didn’t say anything about Kim not holding little black kids. She totally twisted my words. To say that would imply that I thought Kim was racist, and I do not think Kim is racist. I let my daughter spend the night with her on multiple occasions. I’ve taken family trips with her off camera. I wouldn’t do that with someone I thought was a racist. It irritated me so much, because Kim and I already had not been hanging out or talking as much as we used to for the past year, so we definitely did not need any extra drama. Especially over something I didn’t say.

I know that Kim wouldn’t have gone on that trip, because she has been avoiding NeNe for over a year. It would have taken a million dollars to get her to come on a trip where she was stuck for a whole week in close proximity to NeNe. On top of that she hates long flights. She always says she’s claustrophobic. Kim won’t even get on an elevator. She always takes stairs and gets rooms on lower floors, so I don’t see her on the 18-hour flight it takes to get there. As for me saying I don’t see her at the orphanage, no, I don’t. She may disagree, but that’s my opinion. Kim claims to be a germaphobe. The orphanage didn’t have any soap, the water wasn’t really running, and you could smell a strong urine scent, because a lot of the kids’ diapers had not been changed. I just don’t see her being the type to be there. Not that Kim wouldn’t help. I think she would help with giving donations to get them what they need, but I don’t see her doing physical help. In my mind, saying these things is not me talking badly about Kim, it’s me being realistic about Kim. We all have friends that we know may be good for some things, but not good for other things. When I made my comments on the safari, Phaedra was laughing. She didn’t seem to think I said anything bad. Sheree even agreed that Kim wouldn’t want to come with all the tension between her and NeNe. So it through me for a loop when she made it seem like I didn’t think Kim would want to be in Africa because she didn’t want to hold black babies. Crazy!

And now a word from Kim:

Although Cynthia made the initial comment, Kandi co-signed, so she’s just as guilty in my eyes. You are supposed to be my friend, why are you agreeing with a hater? If Kandi believes I wouldn’t go to an African orphanage, then she doesn’t truly know me. I love children and always have. I love to take care of people, which is why I went to nursing school. Kandi says I am germaphobic, and yes, I like my house clean, and no, I didn’t want people around KJ his first few months, etc. But let’s be honest, as a nurse I have wiped many asses in my time, suctioned people, and held a basin when they were vomiting, so forgive me for being educated on all the germs that are out there, but there is nothing that a little hand washing can’t fix. “Germs” have never prevented me from holding a sick child, an adult’s hand, or walking into a less that sanitary place. End of story.In my eyes children in need are children in need. I have said this before, and I will say it till I die, I DON’T SEE COLOR, not with women, men, children, or adults. What they said was ignorant and rude. I do not need to explain that I am not a racist, because the people who know me know my heart.

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  1. michelle says

    February 21, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Should be an interesting reunionKim v. KandiSherree v Kandi

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  2. Anonymous says

    February 21, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    I think Kandi will learn to keep her mouth shut and not co-sign fuckery!!! she and her mother are both messy…

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  3. Brown Sugar Babies says

    February 22, 2012 at 7:37 am

    I find this whole thing being blown out of proportion. Kim is full of crap – I can see if she and Kandi were close like they were in Season 2 – but Kim blew that over $$ and not being a friend to Kandi. All this mess now – is silly.Sheree – well Kandi should have known better than to trust that snake. I don't get Sheree -never have …she could have been making $$$ with fitness stuff … but she's just not doing anything.Sheree vs Kandi – Sheree will loseKim vs Kandi – they both will get press for their respective spin offs … but I think this "fight" is fake. They haven't been friends since BEFORE the tour bus debacle. Kim wasn't too nice to Kandi even when Kandi was TRYING to help her and be a genuine friend. Kandi's mistake was just not cutting Kim totally loose. This "race" thing on RHOA is more BRAVO scripted garbage…Kim and Kandi's friendship has been over for a while.

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  4. Kerry Scott says

    February 22, 2012 at 10:14 am

    What a shame that we had to go there. I don't think the initial comments were about race at all, and it's low for them to spin it that way. This is the one RH show I watch that isn't deeply ugly (suicides, family issues, etc.) and now we have race debates? I watch this stuff to be entertained. This deep, ugly stuff needs to stop.

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  5. Anonymous says

    February 22, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    Oh Lord you know what this means, Al Sharpton will now be on the Reunion Show. Kim is probably the least racist on the show. I don't see any of the other "ladies" hanging with any other white people. NJB

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  6. vp says

    February 22, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    I don't care for race being brought up on the show. That being said, I don't believe Kim is racist, meaning she is actively trying to subvert racial equality, but I do believe she is ignorant and offensive on racial issues. Example: Sweetie. When on the reunion the girls tried to explain why a white woman shouldn't speak to an African American woman that way, she kept replying: I don't see color. And it's something she proudly repeats. That is willful ignorance to the possibility of racial issues that might reach beyond her personal relationships. This is a country that sees race and there is a certain level of decorum and sensitivity toward present and past issues that should be acknowledged. People who want to make an argument on whether or not it's 'right' to approach varied situations and races differently are missing the real life facts of the day and are simply insisting that everyone live in "their" version of reality- and deny what people are truly experiencing in the real world. That is a special kind of arrogance that leads to racism, and that's why it's important to try and educate the ignorant. I am a white woman who does sees race, so that I can be sensitive to the experiences of others. I was raised that way. And while as a child it didn't make me the most popular kid (imagine a 6th grader lecturing a teacher on why we shouldn't do the "tomahawk chop") as an adult I'm thankful I wasn't left in the dark about these things, so that later I won't make a fool out of myself like the Kims of the world.

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  7. Anonymous says

    February 22, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Let's all be clear. The main "issue" here is that Sheree decided to embelish her version of Kandi's comment/reaction by adding "black babies" (which Kandi didn't say). A minor and insignificant issue is that Kim takes offense that Kandi couldn't picture her at an orphanage. To be honest, neither could I (with white/black/asian/or any other babies). Kim has since clarified that this opinion is misplaced due to her nursing background. Kandi should just leave it at "I guess I read you wrong" and move on (which she basically did). For the record, I personally also couldn't see Kim at Waffle House—but I could be wrong about that. It's not te major issue that all have made it out to be. Sheree is the villian and the instigator here.

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  8. Anonymous says

    February 22, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Maybe this is a learning curve for Kandi – to learn that she doesn't have to agree with whoever is in front of her at the moment. I think her tendency to be tight with whoever she's with at the moment has led to her reputation as playing both sides. If you agree with everybody….you don't really own your own point of view.

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  9. Anonymous says

    February 22, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    #TEAMKANDI Her comment wasn't about race it was about character kim's lazy ass ain't going to africa to feed orphan kids [email protected] 10:33 im convinced you're obsessed with kandi i think you're the same person who comments every time i think your hate is misguided love!

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  10. Princess Diva says

    February 24, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    Ok so now you all see how messy Sheree is. She stirred the pot (I think she is trying to stay relevant). Wow she straight up threw Kandi under thebus!! There is tenson in the smalls camp.

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  11. Allihave2say says

    February 24, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    I caught this episode on the replay, barely. 1st – Kim may be many things but a racist I can not cosign. She may cheat a friend or date a married man but she ain't no racist. Lazy, yes. Racist, no.2nd – I never cared much for Kandi. She is odd and 2-faced. The reason she speaks from the side of her mouth is because she has 2 faces and her 1 mouth has to serve them both, lol. 3rd- Cynthia has confused and disappointed me. Not knowing her personally but growing up and seeing a reflection of us in magazine, well lets say a pic is not always a snap of the truth. Cynthia needs to get her own house in order considering I still think Tamara's gaydar is broke and that her husband is a down low narcissist.4th Sheree, girl stop! I noticed that all the women had money in there hands at the store buying supplies except you! The cameraman gently revealed that by raising the camera away from your hands while showing all the other ladies laying money on the counter. Bravo did you a have but I see you. Sheree, please get a job and stop being so fake. You are hurting your children. You can't see that because you are so busy looking at your fake azz in the mirror and seeing an imaginary success story. Phaedra did you a have, she was gracious to save your rep on TV and respected client attorney privilege. And where is Lawrence?Tamara what's the Tea on why Sheree and Lawrence have reportedly broken up? He kept that hair legit. Please spill. PS Nene deep inside is hiding a good girl, but TV made her go bad. Nene seems to still be reeling that childhood crap with bad dad (I have one, IK) stays with you.

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