Real Housewives of New York: Bitches Ain’t Loyal

RHONY Bethenny

 

Which Bethenny will we see tonight? Will it be pity me, I have fibroids Bethenny? Raging bitch mean girl Bethenny? Product placement Bethenny? Or  bit of all three?

We start of with Product Placement Bethenny who is apparently dressing up like her logo for some promo party. Mixed in for good measure is some Pity Me Bethenny with a scene of Ramona’s constant asskissing of Bethenny as she lays in her bed dying. I can’t help but like Bethenny again when she says, “I’m definitely having sex with a stranger tonight.” when her bright red wig was placed.

Sonja is still not allowed to film with I’m The Boss Applesauce Bethenny so we are stuck watching Sonja and Ramona take a dance lesson. Ramona seems to really have a problem with Luann getting married.

Bethenny’s event is sponsored by Dylan’s a huge candy store that is apparently going to carry her candy line. She only invites Carole. Supposedly.  Bethenny is really scared about her surgery. She has no one to go with her so Carole is going. The thing is she just had her surgery in May and there are feet of snow on the ground in this episode so it looks like she backs out. I can’t blame her. I’ve been putting off a surgery for over a year. It’s just not that easy when you don’t have insurance. Or a doctor.  Or a surgeon.

Did we ever see this scene?

Did we ever see this scene?

Time to check in on Jules vagina. How the hell did Jules actually end up damaging her vagina this badly? She goes to the plastic surgeon to see if she will need any reconstruction. Her plastic surgeon says she is healing up just fine.

Bethenny has decided to get a second opinion, and a 99th opinion. She decides to cancel her surgery  and try hormone treatments first.

Dorinda, Ramona and Carole show up to pay homage to I’m The Boss Bethenny. Since Carole won’t film with Luann and Bethenny won’t film with Sonja, they are not invited.  The point of the party is to discuss Bethenny’s vagina. Carole brings up Luann again. Ramona stirs the pot about Luann telling Carole that Luann says she apologized, she extended the olive branch and it is up to her to take it.  Seems reasonable to me.  Bethenny jumps in to say that  Luann was very self-absorbed at the white pantsuit, black pantsuit détente .  Bethenny feels that is was very self-absorbed of her to be giddy about her engagement and eager to get on to her date with Tom.  Ramona is on the Luann hate train. Raging Bitch Mean Girl Bethenny is the train conductor.  Bethenny brings up the stuck up Countess days says she is exactly the same now that she is engaged. No she is not. She is happy and in love. She is not scolding anyone for introducing her to the help as Luann instead of the Countess!  She is not singing Money Can’t Buy You Class on WWHL Luann. She is just Luann in love and these bitches can’t stand it. Dorinda  just sits there quietly. The women literally maul each other’s boobs. And scene.

Dorinda’s confesssionals are the sanest part of this episode.

Luann and Dorinda meet for coffee. This is going to be my favorite scene. Dorinda is growing on me and I am back on team Luann.  Luann is really sick and there is a dinner fight scene tonight. Dorinda lets her know Ramona is on team mean girl now. Or as Luann puts it, Ramona has gone to the dark side. Luann says she thinks everyone is jealous of her engagement. I definitely think Ramona is. LOL. Luann just said, “Ramona especially.”  Dorinda does a great Ramona impression.

Dinner and Shade

Dorinda has hosted the party. Carole comes in and sits next to Luann. When Bethenny arrives she tells her like she told every other person going in for the fake housewives kisses that she was sick. She asks about Bethenny’s health. She says she is not feeling well. Luann responds with something like, yeah me too. Bethenny calls Luann a one upper I her talking head. Essentially Bethenny tells us that she had horrific fibroids and could drop dead during the salad course and Luann has a cold. Who is the one upper?

Bethenny asks if she moved in with her boyfriend. She says yes. Bethenny asks where she lives, she says the Upper East Side (where the rich people live.)  Bethenny asks if she likes it, she says it’s great, she has a penthouse and a terrace. She asks if Tom is ready for marriage. Luann says he’s been ring shopping. It’s a Bethenny interrogation and she seems displeased with the answers.

Sonja arrives. Is this the season finale or something? Did Bethenny’s power with production run out? Bethenny is ready to turn the page. Interesting.

Ramona is the last to arrive and dinner is almost over. The ladies were in a loud drunken conversation. Luann wants to leave early because she is sick. So she goes straight in on Ramona for all the shit talking she has been doing about her. Ramona is in denial even in her confessional. She acts like she didn’t trash the crap out of Luann ON CAMERA days before. She’s blaming Dorinda for stirring the pot when she was in a good place with Luann. It’s not a good place if you are trashing her behind her back. It’s only a good place for you because Luann seems to have an endless stream of forgiveness for you and all she wants is for you to be happy for her engagement and you can’t even do that.  Ramona brings us all the rumors about her in town. Rumors that probably start with Ramona and Sonja.

I swear I am totally on Luann’s wavelength tonight. She just said to Ramona, ” Do you really believe your own bullshit?”  Sonja announces at the dinner that she has been screwing Tom for ten years.

Luann explodes. “EVERYONE IS HAPPY FOR ME EXCEPT FOR YOU BITCHES!”  Then she immediately turns to Carole and says she is not included in the bitches because she  has been very kind to her tonight.

Luann leaves.

Next Week: Jules stands up to Bethenny and Bethenny thinks Jules is paranoid. And it’s a road trip to Atlantic City.

106 Comments

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106 responses to “Real Housewives of New York: Bitches Ain’t Loyal

  1. MARC

    Atlantic City ! Couldn’t Bravo pick somewhere / anywhere more exciting for these lame ass housewives to travel to in lieu of the canceled Mexico trip ? Home Goods is more enchanting than Atlantic City !

    • Elizabeth

      I thought Mohegan Sun in CT they said… Either way I agree!

    • Mohegan Sun is in Connecticut.

      • tamaratattles

        Whatevs. I am not familiar with the yankee states. Some fucking casino up north. I though everyone in Connecticut (what kind of a name is that anyway? who can spell it?)

        Cue the yankee corrections that will ensue…

      • Alien1

        It is Algonquian (or rather derived from it- much like other indigenous lands with names deriving from tribal languages of those who lived there when the white folks took over; eg. Massachusetts)

  2. Yes, Bethenny was all three tonight. At that dinner, Bethenny brought up all the sex Carole is having. How embarrassing for Carole and Lu when that Adam jerk has been such a sore point and now they are being friendly again. Carole should wake up. Bethenny also brought up, again, Tom dating Sonja and Ramona. Lu is right, they’re jealous. I guess Bethenny’s hormone treatment didn’t work cause she ended up having surgery. Glad Jules will find her voice telling off big mouth Frankel next week.

  3. Causing-A-Casino

    Sonja’s lack of presence this season has more to do with her lengthy contract negotiations than any influence by Bethenny. Sonja was the last to sign after a long hold out. She came late to the party and screwed herself. She’s lucky to be holding an apple. Luann even filmed more the season she was demoted.
    Jules is paranoid but that’s due to obviously low self-esteem. Dorinda said “Bethenny says nice things about you” Apparently Bethenny was also an advocate for getting Jules on the show (as told on her sirius show) Jules main issue is B discussing her eating disorder. Sorry but anybody sitting in front of another person engaging in obvious dangerous behavior (anorexia, alcoholism, drugs) is going to comment on it publicly and/or privately…that’s people…all people. As far as the “imagine if I brought you” comment- she was obviously referring to how weird/funny it would be to bring another person with a vagina issue- like the blind leading the blind.
    I still love LuAnn in all her delusional grandeur.

    • Lisa j

      Either you’re in production, part of the cast or off your rocker because we don’t seem to be watching the same show.

      • lol, I was thinking the same thing.

      • Minky

        Hmmm…? I don’t want to be called a narcissist again, but…

        Seriously, though. RHONY is becoming the latest hotbed of female-on-female misogyny. If you’re Bethenny or Andy, or one of their minions, you really need to cool it with the shit. Enough with the goddamn abuse!

        If any of the cast or production are reading this blog, take a damn hint. You can do drama or intrigue and entertain people without all of this hateful nonsense.

        Your adoring fans who approve of the open meanness and malice directed toward your targeted cast members are idiots. And the people who hate-watch the show do it because you behave like a bunch of egotistical, entitled clowns. One of the less evolved commenters on this blog has already gleefully compared RHONY to The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Think about that for a minute.

        And don’t keep repeating that tired, pitiful shit about “ratings”. Even if your ratings truly were sky high it wouldn’t matter. A televised execution or a snuff film would probably get the highest ratings in all of television history. Is that how low you’re prepared to go?

      • GirlMe

        Amen! Its getting so uncomfortable to watch. I only watch durning commercials of another happy show.

        Wish they would switch like Oprah did in the 90s when she got tired of stopping to Jerry Springer level.

    • I agree with you, that is how I seen it also.

  4. SweetM

    Hey Tamara…enjoy you. Tell me how you track your followers. Thx

  5. SweetM

    I ask this because I wonder how you tie it in with your sponsors. I live in the VI and and recall a response from you that you watch where your followers are…hence Libya post today today. Best to you.

    • tamaratattles

      I don’t track my followers. I presume you are talking about why your ads are for things you search for. That is … well I am not sure who that is… Google? I have Gmail (Google Mail) and I can be telling a close friend something like my refrigerator may be dying and I get ads for fridges no matter where I go. We are all being tracked. And Monitored. It’s kind of spooky, no?

    • The VI (US Virgin Islands) which Island, I live on St. Thomas, do you mean the VI?

  6. Ktwallis

    Yes! We did see that scene in your photo. It is from when Bethenny first met jules and michael and suggested he be r2d2 for Halloween.

    • KaraW

      Isn’t that the scene where Dorinda went on about Bethany’s white shirt. And we learned that Jules is Jewish. And Asian. :-)

  7. KaraW

    It was so weird when Jules was at the doctor’s office and she flung her tights over onto his counter. Doctors probably think the things on their counters are nice and clean, having no idea what the patients do while they wait.

  8. Patricia Stack

    I am so over Bethanny’s fibroid storyline. I had a myomectomy, and, yes, I survived

    • tamaratattles

      Oh yay! Now I have someone to ask. Do they actually remove all of your organs, rearrange the and put them back in?

      • Patricia Stack

        If they did that, they never told me. Seriously, TT, I didn’t have time to worry about what they were going to do. I just wanted the damn fibroids out and for them to be benign – which they were. I was back to work in a couple of weeks. She really made it sound like it was much, much worse than what it was.

      • swizzle

        Depends on how they do the surgery. If it’s laparoscopic, of course nothing actually comes out. But if it’s an open surgery, they do. I had three c-sections and my husband was a bit shocked during the first one when the doc started taking other body parts out and laying them on my belly before they got to the baby. Freaked him out. I have no idea what they did since I couldn’t see (and would not have wanted to!), but his story was that they took my stomach out, set it to the side (I guess as much as that’s possible since it was still connected to me) and then worked on getting out the baby.

        The complexity of the surgery I’m sure also depends on the size, type, and location of the fibroids.

      • cammierari

        yes they do. Weird eh?

      • I’ve had that surgery-all I can say is I wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy! It was supposed to be out patient and I ended up staying in the hospital three days. The doctor did say they had to take out my organs…..which was way TMI! I found the recooperation more difficult than my two c-sections…maybe because I am old? LOL 😉

  9. Sali

    Tamara, I wasn’t coming around as often but I’m so glad to be back reading your blog regularly. Hilarious and on point!

  10. Skeeter

    Why did I have to answer who I would vote for in the presidential election in order to read this story? My answer was a lie as I am voting for NEITHER Hillary or The Donald, but I had to answer to read the rest of this article.

    • tamaratattles

      Um because this site is how I eat? And the pop up question happen to a random sampling? And because THE LARGE MAJORITY of the time you come to my site you are not asked anything And because no one cares if you tell the truth as long as you push a button? And because right now there is a lot of political polling going on

      DOES IT KILL YOU TO POST ONE ANSWER OR ANOTHER IN A POLL so I can eat? THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE TO ANSWER A QUESTION.

      • Minky

        Don’t worry about it TT. You don’t have to explain anything. Compared to some other sites, your ads are barely noticeable.

        One day I think I saw the deviled egg video here about a dozen times. It still didn’t stop me from reading and commenting. I’m here for the content. I ignore the videos and I answer the once-in-a-blue-moon survey question. No big deal.

      • Dee

        Once again, I’m with Minky. I have no problem answering the pop up questions. It’s not a big deal. Gosh I can’t believe someone is complaining!

      • Sammie

        Your site has the least ads of any site I read. There are so many that I no longer bother to check because the ads got overwhelming. The content here is amazing and there are very few times I even see ads you must not be eating caviar and Cristal based on my experience.

      • Rosesandgin

        On another site which I will not name. A picture of a very sick person comes up almost every other time I would go there. It was very off putting. I would be more than happy to answer a poll question to never see that again! Keep on keepin on TT.

      • Happygal

        Well dang I must be all kinds of nuts I felt special being asked the few times I was 😉

      • Happygal

        For someone who is all up I Jules business with her food issues did anyone else catch that Bethany said she went off the pill because she gained ten pounds ?

        To me she looks honestly like she needs to gain ten pounds. She claims to be naturally thin but I don’t think so. I personally am all for a wide variety of body types and not body shaming anyone however I don’t think the super ultra skinny boney look is a good look for anyone partially as one ages – just look how harsh it looks on Carole .

      • Kiyoshigirl

        I have no problem with a blogger making money off their site. Do any of us really expect TT or any other blogger to work for free? I do find it telling that many of us played pin the tail on the donkey to get past the poll…lol. Donald or Hillary? What has the world come to?

      • Cat

        I was beginning to feel left out, then I finally got the pop up question. I don’t see what the big deal is.

  11. I’m actually glad Sonja blurted out that she had been friends with benefits with Tom for ten years. Obviously, it wasn’t much more than that or we would have heard about them together. LuAnn was cool when she said she didn’t give a fuck who he was with before her – unless you’re unlucky enough to get a guy who’s a virgin, there are always going to be other women he was with – it’s much better that it came up now and not after they get married. Ramona, of course, had to make a much bigger deal of it than was necessary by pretending to spit her drink out because she was so shocked. Of course, she loved every second of it. She’s such a jealous bitch – even when Luann was walking out the door, Ramona had to say to Sonja (in a loud stage whisper, being the jealous cow Ramona is), “You started it up with the friend with benefits comment” – she just had to twist that double-edged knife one more time. She’s so envious of LuAnn that she can’t stand it. It’ll be a cold day in hell before Ramona finds someone who loves her enough to marry her – all men have to do is watch Ramona on the show to see how spiteful and luney tunes she is. Hope the marriage goes off as planned on New Year’s Eve – I couldn’t stand to watch the show if it doesn’t – all the crowing and “told you so’s” would be impossible to watch. Good luck, LuAnn – I want you to be really happy.

    • Yari

      Ramona has been jealous of Luann since season 1. Luann was married to a count, was a pretty decent tennis player, was a model and tv host. She had more social clout than Ramona, a fact that was probably made evident countless times by Jill Zarin. Initially Luann was standoffish to Ramona, especially in a few of the Hamptons scenes. Ramona has since then looking for ways to bring Luann down. Does anybody remember the comments she made about the Count and Luann’s children several seasons ago? Ramona talked about Luann being a weekend mom because her children attended boarding schools. Ramona is a disgusting human being, although an entertaining one.

    • Librarygirl

      That spit take was embarrassing and poorly executed. How telling of Ramona to do that.

      • Sabrina

        I think this whole topic is embarrassing for each of them, including Luann- to be engaged in four weeks and then the things she says as she believes what Tom tells her- he spent ten YEARS with Sonya in a Tom- described “slam bam” action which she mimics? That too was misogyny, on Luanns’ part- these women have each become ugly and desperate- Sonya, Ramona, Lu and Carole- about these men- UGHHH!!! Bethenny even mentioned how small their circle of men is- but after knowing he has slept with both of these women, how could Luann agree to be engaged in four weeks? And then deliberately mock them and believe his iteration of it, before speaking to them?

        I sincerely hope, for her sake, that she has something prompt her to take some time, get her ego out of it, and sort through this guy and her attraction to him. The level of pure joy and ecstasy Luann projected as she announced she was engaged to Sonja was scary to me-and very sad- not that she was in love- but that she was to be MARRIED!! Very sad .

        We all want to find joy for and with a woman who has been through a divorce ( and its pain) and found a man she wants to marry and try again with- and I wish her well and hope she can be happy, actually true for each of them- but this is so quick- where are the normal questions?

  12. marc

    Aviva’s ex had sex with most of this cast ; who cares if Tom slept with all of them he only asked Luann to marry him & that’s why they are all so sour.

  13. Betty

    Bethenny is presently dating her friends husband( supposedly separated – eye roll). Ramonai is alone and Carole is dating 30 year old. Bethenneys mom doesn’t even want anything to do w her. They’re just jealous. Go Lu!

    • Shae

      So not the case…the woman is not her “friend”, she went to high school with her 30 some odd years ago. She and her husband are separated and in the process of divorce, just as Bethenny and Jason are. I do not see the issue here if two separated/divorcing people, date. Divorces can take years, as Bethenny’s has, are people not supposed to date?

      It would be grimey if the woman was a “friend” of hers, and not just an old classmate/acquaintance.

      That being said, I cannot understand how on earth Luann is ok with the fact her fiance has slept with one of her friends for over a decade and briefly dated another. I don’t like Luann much, but I don’t begrudge her her happiness, everyone deserves to be happy and find their soulmate- that’s great. I just can’t wrap my head around the fact I would not be comfy marrying a guy one of my close gf’s had a “friends with benefits” situation with for years. That’d be really gross for me.

      Pretty ballsy of Ramona to bald-face lie to Luann like that about talking smack, stupid too, as it’s all on tape. But that’s Ramona, that’s her MO.

      • Sue

        The “classmates from 30 years ago” is Bethenny’s spin now that she’s dating a married man after slut-shaming LuAnn for the same thing. The friend’s name is Jill Shields, and yes, she was a friend, as evidenced by her appearing on Bethenny’s spin-off show. That’s how Bethenny met the husband in the first place.

      • Shae

        That’s impossible, Bethenny said she’s known this man for 27 years, how could she only have met him through his ex-wife on her spin off show only a few years ago? Sorry, I just don’t agree that she was close friends, or even regular friends with this woman.

        Also, I don’t see anything wrong with separated people dating one another, I don’t see that as dating someone “married” when they’re no longer with their spouse and are in the process of divorce. Are you literally supposed to wait until divorce is final to carry on with your life?
        That’s entirely and completely different than taking up with a married person.

      • Cal

        Shae

        Your logic defies logic.

        You don’t see anything distasteful about Bethnny dating a ‘separated, but not divorced’ man who has been sleeping with his other half wife for x years who Bethenny knew…..

        But you do see something wrong with Luann not caring that her ‘not married’ and actually divorced boyfriend has slept with various women or friends over his x number of single years?

        Ridiculous.

      • Spaghetti Kitten

        Perfectly stated Cal.

      • Shae

        Cal, I don’t think merely “knowing” the woman makes it distasteful, no. Obviously if it was bethenny’s friend, a real friend, that’d be horrid and unaceptable, but that’s not how I view the situation. I don’t see anything wrong with two separated people dating.

        I didn’t say Luann was wrong to not be upset, I said I couldn’t wrap my head around it because I would be. Not understanding is not the same as thinking someone is wrong. Good for her if it truly doesn’t bug her, but it would bug me bigtime. Especially since Sonja was saying it continued until very recently.

  14. Minky

    Why is Bethenny crying again? Oh yeah, the fibroids.

    Looks like she’s a one trick pony. She’s always drunk on rage-ohol. Or cry-ohol. Does she hate everybody?! Carole needs to watch her ass.

  15. Blondesense

    I’ve been feeling off colour the last few weeks and the bleeding, oh god I can’t listen to it anymore. I’m gagging and fast forwarding.

  16. kim Bruce

    I am old, have deep rooted morals, and a child of God, with a like of watching Nyc Housewives. I think they are all hilarious, so weirdly special, and entertaining. I don’t understand them, I can’t relate to them, yet I truly empathize with them. I love watching their lives play out on my screen, laughing at their outlandish behavior, yet at same time, wishing I could sit down with them, and listen to their stories, knowing that is truly what each of them really wants: a true connection with another human, feeling loved unconditionally, and being able to trust with their innermost secrets. I imagine living in the Big Apple, that’s not an easy thing to find or do. I have my opinions about each of them, none are hate filled, but rather, an opinion that explains why they act out the way they do. I see the Little Girl in each of them, the little girl that for some reason, didn’t feel loved, didn’t feel wanted, and didn’t feel worthy…all so very sad. I want to give each of them a motherly hug! May Heaven bless each of them, enabling them to be happy for others, because they are happy within themselves!

  17. Spaghetti Kitten

    Yes, I wish a TT spy would tell us the real deal on Jules’ groin injury. Yes, I really typed that, lol.
    This was the 1st episode I could stand Carole again. Wish Lu would rest her voice or get it looked at…having problems lately hearing/understanding what she’s saying…glad they subtitled her high road comments to Carole.
    Dorinda’s confessionals really were scary TT, Lol…she needs to strap her set back on and stop being so relieved the focus is off of her/John.

  18. AuntieAura

    I am so tire of Beth and her whining.. I need a kidney transplant and I whine way less than her!! She is so annoying!!

  19. Agnes Moore

    I am loving Dorinda this season but, if you noticed an episode or two ago, she got away with talking smack about Carole dating someone 21 years her junior and Carole said Nothing about it. Not sure what she’s really upset with Lu about but even my husband (who suffers through this show with me) to have thrown up his hands last night during that roundhouse go Bethenny, Carole, and Ramona had on Luann. I think this is that ‘common enemy’ syndrome and just as soon as Luann leaves/stops hitting back, they’ll move on entirely to their next victim. Probably Jules. Then, when they’ve eviscerated Jules, they’ll move on to someone else. It’s like watching a pride of lions play with their food before they eat it. Used to be an entertaining show. Now it’s straight up bullying. I actually use it sometimes to show my kids how to recognize bullying behavior.

  20. What we really learned here is that Dorinda needs to stop hosting any parties as they turn into a shit show. That woman has not had one function that did not end in a screaming match.. but then again any function that includes the Frankelstein immediately guarantees a conflict, she would have a fight with her shadow. On Twitter someone suggested that she may be bi polar, and on that note I agree. She needs to see a Psychiatrist about that chemical inbalance. Frankelstein needs more than hormones.

    • Agnes Moore

      That’s EXACTLY what my husband said last night. (He worked with a bipolar person for quite a few years and says it’s like flashbacks to that terrible time.)

      • Agnes I genuinely believe that she is and that her mother was/is as well.. this is very much a genetic pre disposition and they share the eating disorder which again is alarming considering that she has a little girl and may explain the divorce drama.. I suspect that is why Jason and his family are fighting like hell. They know and they are actually quite classy staying above the accusations and allegations that Frankelstein is famous for. She is a sick woman alright

      • Alien1

        Good job armchair psychiatrists . For those of you who actually know anything about anything, what you are describing is BPD not bipolar disorder (common lay public misperceptions- the terminology does not help). Affective instability- easily flying off the handle whether tears or rage, disordered eating patterns, fucked up upbringing, all of that is commonly entrenched in a BPD diagnosis. But then again, what do I know, I am only an MD and a practicing psychiatrist, but I have never treated nor formally evaluated Bethhenny in person.

      • Cat

        Hahaaaaa….I love when people post their resumes here in comments. Next stop: The WLS. You should find a lot of interesting people to analyze there. Enjoy! :)

    • DJFL

      I had to laugh last night when Dorinda said she was more of a zookeeper than a hostess.

      • Doctor/Alien or whatever you play on the internet.. BPD or Borderline Personality Disorder or Bi Polar.. they are truly both mental health issues that needs a real Doctor and not the play therapist they had working w/her earlier.. she is truly mentally disturbed.. so thanks for sharing and playing.. we agree that she is batshit, a non diagnostic analysis

      • Happygal

        This! Batshit! Yes!

      • Lynn

        Alien1……………
        As some one that has BPD,…….you are full of shit. It is NOT diagnosis that can be made from a damn reality show……………..hell neither is Bipolar. You can put those symptoms on every friggen person on reality.

      • Alien1

        Lynn I agree with you! Not about my being full of shit but that no disgnosis can be made from reality tv. What I was trying to point out was that the signs and symptoms commenters were citing as support for bipolar disorder are actually more representative of BPD. I have no idea what diagnosis- if any- Bethenny may have and neither does anybody else. That was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it failed miserably.

    • Cal

      Bethenny has more than just a hormone imbalance and possible bi polar problem.

      And she has a lot of ‘projection’ going on—first calling Luann a ‘narcissist’ and then saying Jules was ‘paranoid’ ?

      ‘Kernberg described malignant narcissism as a syndrome characterized by a narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), antisocial features, paranoid traits, and egosyntonic aggression.
      Other symptoms may include an absence of conscience, a psychological need for power, and a sense of importance (grandiosity).
      Pollock wrote: “The malignant narcissist is presented as pathologically grandiose, lacking in conscience and behavioral regulation with characteristic demonstrations of joyful cruelty and sadism”
      ”Malignant narcissists, in contrast to psychopaths, are also said to be capable of developing “some identification with other powerful idealized figures as part of a cohesive ‘gang’…which permits at least some loyalty and good object relations to be internalized”. “Some of them may present rationalized antisocial behavior – for example, as leaders of sadistic gangs or terrorist groups…with the capacity for loyalty to their own comrades”.

      If Bethenny isn’t a full blown malignant narcissist she ‘s not far from being one. Her vicious attacks on others under the guise of being “truthy’ and for her own enjoyment. Her over the top explosions over any challenge to her ‘bizness’ –her ‘grandiose’ view of herself as the most-est ever and only ultimate bizness-woman in the world. Her ‘loyalty gang’ of yapping poodles, Carole and Ramona.

      Looking up the latest financials for Beam Global I saw that their SkinnyGirl sales had dropped 26% in 2013 and again 2014.

      Also from the Kentucky Bourbon industry reports:

      ‘For 2013, Beam reported that comparable net sales of top-seller Jim Beam rose 3 percent, while premium bourbons soared: Maker’s Mark rose 17 percent; Knob Creek was up 14 percent; and Basil Hayden’s leaped 29 percent. Most other whiskeys also rose: Laphroaig Scotch was up 21 percent, Canadian Club was up 10 percent, and Kilbeggan Irish whiskey was up 2 percent. Only Teacher’s Scotch slipped 7 percent.
      Tequilas also performed well, with Sauza up 3 percent and Hornitos up 12 percent.
      Skinnygirl cocktails remained one of the few lackluster performers, down 26 percent from 2012 .

      I think Bethenny is in desperation mode—-she came back on the show expressly to hawk Skinny Girl—which she does in every segment it seems—and she had also lost her TV show due to low ratings. I see a lot of what are called ‘plants or puff pieces’ in trade papers trying to shine up the Skinny girl products and brand but they don’t appear to be helping.
      It has also never been settled in gossip columns what Bethenny was actually paid for SG margarita –which was what she sold to Beam—-a lot of blogs claim it was 120 million but in the Beam security fillings it says they paid 8.1 million up front with bonuses of up to but not to exceed 25 million. If anyone has some Beam stock and has an old 2011 company report to stockholders it would say exactly since they have to reveal all financial transactions to their stockholders—so someone could actually find out for sure if they wanted to.

      Wait and see— this ‘mouth on a stick’ is going to totally implode one day and its going to be very ugly.

    • iloveearlgrey

      I think she’s that way because of the Adderall abuse, allegedly.

  21. Peej

    I found it funny that B called Lu unlikable as I find B to very unlikable this entire season

  22. HazelHickory

    I just love the way that Luann is reaching out for happiness with both hands and that she refuses to let the mean girls rain on her parade. She stood up to them with truth and like a lioness! I am really loving Luann this season, and taking notes on how to beat down bitches! As for Ramona – her jealousy of Luann is so transparent. Has Ramona ever been a good friend to anyone? Not and never that I can recall – no – not at all.

  23. JoJoFLL

    Can we stop with Jules vagina? Why is this a thing? That plastic surgeon skeeved me out.

    I love NYC in the winter!

  24. Sammie

    Bethenny really needs the drama in her life. I had similar condition and had surgery with complications without letting the world know how difficult it was for me. It is scary to have surgery but how the hell did she handle childbirth if this is causing her so much distress?

    • Shae

      Well none of us is on a reality show so of course we wouldn’t be telling the world about our health troubles and struggles lol. She is paid to put her business on tv.

      She stated she had a c-section and people are telling her this surgery is far worse than that.

    • Wampascat

      I guess it was easier when she had a husband there for support. Surgery is scary when you think about the risks and you have a child. I went in for a simple laparoscopic hysterectomy. My husband dropped me off early so he could take the kids to school. By the time he got back, I had already been taken to surgery, which was supposed to take an hour. Three hours later, my surgeon came out to tell him I had the worst adhesions he’s ever seen and I had to have a radical hysterectomy and it would be another two hours. After that long on propofal, I coded. What a horrible experience. My gut had told me the day before not to have the surgery, but hubby complained he had taken the time off, yadda, yadda… Long recovery and still have episodes of depression.

      • Shae

        Oh my god, so sorry you dealt with and are still dealing with all that :(

      • HazelHickory

        Wampascat – I am so sorry that you had to go through all of that. We all have learned the hard way – to always follow our “little voice” – even when others are pushing us to “carry on” for logistical convenience. I am not surprised that you still experience bouts of depression. That said – the angels saved you, thank you God, so you could be there for your children. 👼

  25. swizzle

    I’m not feeling the Luann is in love storyline. She seems a bit frantic about it all. Maybe I’m misreading it and she’s just giddy in love. I’d probably believe it more if being in love didn’t come with an UES penthouse and a home on Palm Beach. My gut she’s in love with being wealthy again.

    • HazelHickory

      Hi Swizzle. Maybe, Idk. The saying goes that it is just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as with a poor man. So I am not sure that the two are mutually exclusive? Money issues are the cause of most divorces, and Luann does travel in these wealthy circles and seems to like the good life, as do all of the housewives – who, except for Bethenny, have all gotten to where they are by marrying well – (and it can even be argued that Bethenny’s marriage to Jason really rocketed her business enterprise to a new level). However – Lu is visibly glowing and I think that is an indication that the feelings of romance at least may be real. (Just my opinion, to be sure). I find her to be kind of nice. I do not recall seeing her jealous or deliberately cruel or engaging in group bullying. Maybe a little “countesy” back in the day – but it kind of amused me, and, because, story line at the time. She did stand up for Sonia. And I do admire her pluck.

      • HazelHickory

        Just as an add on bc I feel I was too wishy washy in my post above. Maybe Lu is in love with being in love and maybe it is real love – it certainly seems to be real love – and I wish Lu the very best. We have to reach for happiness in this crazy world. I want someone to get the fairy tale!

    • HiKitty

      Did you see the story Bravo did about her life pre-housewives? I’m pretty sure that divorce left her extremely comfortable – that Hamptons house alone sold for millions – and it sounds like the Count makes sure she is taken care of. She probably enjoys the extra money (who wouldn’t?) but she certainly doesn’t NEED it, she was already wealthy.

      • swizzle

        Agreed that she’s not short on cash in regular people terms, but I don’t think she was own an UES penthouse wealthy on her own. I could be misreading the whole thing, but there’s something to me that feels like she’s a little frantic about her relationship or how she describes it. Maybe she’s just crazy in love. Who knows. I’ve always enjoyed Lu, but I’m not feeling this new relationship. I do hope she’s happy.

      • quincygirl

        I believe she is low on cash too since kids are older and no child support now. No house in Hamptons and it’s why she shacked up with sonja. As far as tom he reeks of a Slade Smiley clone. Yuck. And as far as Jules.. I think she was trying to spy on Michael since his office is in the same building as their home, maybe climbed down the fire escape and was coming back up, she was trying to get back in their apt fast and slammed her vajayjay too hard down on the window sill and caused her injury. Either way.. gross.

  26. cammierari

    Love reading all the comments about a show that I just watched-and finding out how different everyone sees the same things I just saw!!

    I think Dorinda is trying to be friends with everyone and not take sides-or she takes the side of whomever she is with at the time. Somewhat like Ramona, who LOVES to tell you what other people are saying and leaves out the part where she agreed with them.

    I feel for Bethenny because I had a similar health issue that needed a total hysto to correct. Trust me, when you’re losing a lot of blood, you don’t really have the energy needed to deal with life, yet life continues and you must. It is Bethenny’s way to be honest about what’s going on, but i think she’s extra bitchy because she’s had her period for months. I can forgive that.

    Luanne is dying to get married because that’s her comfort zone. I doubt that she thinks she will be faithful and I doubt she cares if he is either. I bet it’s not even a concern for her. The other women are thinking of marriage the way THEY want it, and don’t see that there for Luanne. Funny that Lu hasn’t realized that she is doing the same thing to Carole in regards to Adam.

    Can’t wait to see Jules go for Bethenny next week! On paper I’m thinking B cuts her down to the size of a little asian doll holding a dreidel, but maybe Jules came loaded for bear-we’ll see!

  27. Toonskie

    This was always my favorite of the franchise, but while I find Bethenny’s one liners funny at times I can’t deal with the crying and raging anymore. I don’t want to hear about her bleeding to death, tired of hearing about Jules’ vajayjay. Ramona has had her lips pressed to Bethenny’s bum all season, actually everyone has except Sonja. The dynamic between these women is really bad this season, and I really think Bethenny and her sidekick Carole are mostly to blame. This “I’m not going if she’s going” crap sucks the life out of everything.

    Usually I can’t miss an episode, now I’m recording it and fast forwarding through most of it. :(

    Bring back Jill! Haha

  28. Dee

    I feel bad for Jules, wonder how she hurt herself going through a window, it allegedly sounds suspicious.

  29. Twilly

    God, how can anyone watch this? Reading the recap is painful. You’re a champ, TT!!

  30. Katherine 2.0

    I actually enjoyed most of this episode. Brava, Lu!

  31. Amy V

    Mohegan Sun is an American Indian casino. Lost a small fortune there over the years. Dylan’s is the coolest candy store anywhere bar none. Its own by Ralph Lauren’s daughter.

  32. SLM

    Here’s my two cents about Sonja’s revelation regarding Tom: I can’t take it at face value because she isn’t a reliable source…even about HERSELF. She’s tell same woman I actually fear for (her mental stability) because she gets drunk and talks about partying with JFK Jr and Madonna liked it happened LAST WEEK and has been known to say (sober) tgat P Diddy parties on HER YACHT, which she doesn’t have and probably never happened even on her HUSBAND’S yacht. She also thinks she owns part of a Nigerian soccer team, has a fabulously successful blouse line in France and is coming out with a perfume….🤔😂😲😞

    What I think is it’s likely as not she DID have an intimate encounter with Tom…possibly more than one, but UNLIKELY it’s been some sort of consistent thing occuring hundreds of time in the last decade! Also, whatever happened was BEFORE he met Luann and wanted to marry her, so WHY MUST THESE SO-CALLED FRIENDS BRING IT UP TO HER AD NAUSEUM?! Good gracious, if my friend introduced me to a guy she was marrying and I realized I’d been intimate with him in the past, I’d NEVER mention it. Why go there?? And the continued “I’m dying” storyline from B is driving me just as crazy this week. I hit mute on most scenes with her in it. Oy.

  33. Barbara

    Friends with benefits for ten years? Wasn’t she married then? I think Luann handles these “friends” very well. Of course they are jealous of her genuine happiness. I’m glad she called them out.

  34. I can’t wait until Flipping Out starts. I am so over these women. I am not watching N.J. I just can’t anymore. There is some serious crap going on in this world, in our country, and this is not even a pleasant distraction anymore. I just end up so annoyed and sad really. Andy and Bravo are like those secret hypnotists that have us all mesmerized or at least that is what I want to tell myself instead of the truth (that I am a drama junkie). But between this and Southern Charm the crap fest that was O.C. and B.H. last year and N.J. before, I am seriously considering counseling. LOL.

  35. Cdoggy

    Since when did we start calling our vaginas cooters? Seriously. Cooters.

  36. Christina

    Holy hell, just seeing the episode & what a holy shit show. I watch these ridiculous shows for the distraction of daily life, not to hear ongoing saga over someone’s vagina like she is the Virgin Mary. I seriously want to reach through the TV & bitch slap her!

  37. Kim

    Ramona is the biggest 2-faced friend! She’s always been that way. Maybe she’s made some excuses here & there for people but her general M.O. is to agree with the other person talking crap about her supposed friend. Dorinda is now part time sh!t stirrer to make up for scenes where Ramona is absent. I seriously cannot watch this show anymore without my remote handy ready to fast forward. Brutal!

  38. ccw203

    Carole serves zero purpose on the show other than staying up Bethenny’s ass…which is her only storyline.

  39. FreebieLove

    Bravo, please change the cast. You have a great show with great cast of characters. You cannot have these women NOT filming with each other due to X,Y,Z reason. We need interactions and reactions from these women not CONSTANT bad mouthing about a person who is not even present in the scene (i,e, badmouthing of Luann by Beth, Ramona and Carole). RHONY still has the magic necessary to be a great show. Beth is entertaining, but you have to get rid of Carole for her to be entertaining. Carole is a bore and a waste of FUCKING space. When Carole is in a scene it give Beth the idea that she is invincible and she just goes on a rampage. GET RID OF CAROLE. Ramona is a good castmate, but at this point there does not seem to be anything going on in her life so she needs to learn how to stand on her own or get off the show.

    Dorinda, Luann and Sonja do the show the way that it is supposed to be done. When Beth and Ramona launched on Dorinda and John at the beginning of the season it was wonderful. Almost even looked 100% authentic (although we know it was somewhat preplanned by Ramona and Beth).

    Season 8 ideal cast: Luann, Dorinda, Sonja, Jill, Bethenny, Ramona (friend of?), A friend of Luann.

  40. Dandy Lion

    What was up with Carole wearing purple gloves at Bethenny’s launch?

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