#SouthernCharm Reunion Part 2 Recap: Girls Gone Wild!

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It’s time to end this shit show and hopefully never see Landon Clements ever again.  If you didn’t read this post yet, you should probably do that first.

Kathryn is back and she lets us know that Thomas shaved his entire body before the drug testing. He did not submit a hair follicle.  Kathryn refuses to discuss her drug test. Andy asks if there is anything that she wants to clear up that she thinks is misunderstood by the public. She says the rumors that she is being uncooperative. She says all she wants is an agreement and to co-parent with Thomas. Kathryn says that the amount of child support Thomas is offering is insufficient for two children.  Thomas responds with “people are saying I shouldn’t have to pay her alimony because we were not married.”  That’s just a random Thomas brain fart. He says that they did live together.  Kathryn says he proposed seven times and they designed a ring together. Thomas says that he wants to do more than what is fair. She’s not going to live a live of leisure but she will be quite comfortable.

Kathryn says she is starting a vintage jewelry line and selling pieces only. The necklace she is wearing is one that she made. Landon literally laughs in her face and Cameran is right next to her giggling.

Any calls Kathryn out for lying about being pregnant at the reunion. She tries to say that she wasn’t ready to announce it but when she was on WWHL hadn’t she already had the baby? It seems odd that she lied about it.

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Andy asks Kathryn why she flipped out when she went to the polo grounds to see Thomas play when she was seven months pregnant. Kathryn says she flipped out because the porno dude was there and he insinuates that he and Thomas do drugs when they are together. (Molly. Allegedly)

Andy brings up allegations that Kathryn faked a complication with her pregnancy to get Thomas to cosign her lease. Thomas says that is not true at all. Thomas says he regrets that those allegations were ever made.  They show Landon talking about Kathryn being manipulative with her hospital emergency. Landon says she still thinks that.

Thomas says that his opinion of Jennifer has changed because she is pregnant and found out that her child has Downs Syndrome and opted to carry the baby to term. Thomas has a brother with Down Syndrome. Why is the pregnant woman who had little role on the show at the reunion instead of K. Cooper Ray?

Andy says he wants Kathryn and Thomas to work things out and get back together. Craig still thinks it will happen eventually.

Landon just chimes in about whatever she thinks will piss off Kathryn. It’s sure pissing me off. She could literally get hit by a bus and die at this point and I would not care in the slightest.

Southern Charm thomas baby
It sounds like Jennifer slept with Thomas only once. For some reason Shep brings up Landon again. She sure gets brought up a lot. This causes Landon to defend her constant posting of Instagram pictures of every moment she can manipulate herself to be near Thomas. The bitch is obviously extremely jealous of Kathryn and deliberately stirring shit  to derail their relationship.

Thomas says a lot of nice things about Jennifer and she becomes emotional. She was villianized all season and it is nice that her character has been attested to. Thomas offers her a hankerchief.

Even Andy and Landon can’t be mean to this crying pregnant woman.

Andy gets Whitney to admit he lives in WeHo and that he is “taking a break” from the beard. Whitney says that he only hears from Thomas when he is apart from Kathryn.

I cannot take recapping any more of this Landon interfering in the relationship between the parents of two kids.

As Landon is screaming at Kathryn “You used your womb to be on television” Cameran is screaming at Kathryn that she is “so reactionary!”  Does Cameran not have eyes and ears to see what Landon is doing?

Here comes the Jekyll Island stuff.  Thank God Andy shuts up Landon by threatening to murder himself if she doesn’t shut up. Then Andy brings up a question for THOMAS about apologizing to Landon when Kathryn asked him not to. He gets half way into saying that he had already apologized with the dolphin cunt interrupts again to answer for Thomas. Who does that?

Thomas and Landon continue to deny sleeping together.

Andy points out that Shep and Craig both indicated they believe that Landon and Thomas slept together. Then Andy points out that Robin, who was Landon’s friend said they slept together.  Then Thomas says that he has lied to Kathryn maybe four times in their relationship and he has confessed every time. Kathryn says, “That’s a lie.”  Which reminds me of a conversation I had with an ex recently who told me that he never lied to me once over the decade or so we have known each other. My exact reaction what just like Kathryn’s “That’s a lie.”  These guys lie about not lying. It’s kind of hysterical. And sad. And somehow Landon showed up in London when Thomas was there? Oh REALLY! Isn’t it shocking when that happens.

Landon is a cunt.

During the break, Kathryn thanked Whitney for being decent to her. He got up and gave her a hug. I need to look out the window to see if pigs are flying by. Hold on. Nope, don’t see Cameran and Landon out there at all.

Landon is a GAPING cunt.

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238 responses to “#SouthernCharm Reunion Part 2 Recap: Girls Gone Wild!

  1. True Joy

    Landon didn’t drink tonight – haven’t paid attention to whether she has taken a drink on previous episodes. God help her if she is pregnant with a TRav kiddo….

    • Christina

      I was typing when you posted about the lack of drink/toast by the dolphin… Lord help us all

      • Cara

        Thomas at first appeared that he was not going to drink, either, but then seemed to change his mind. Landon made a smug face when they showed her without a glass.

    • So happy to read this review… it needed to be said. I see Kathryn having to defend herself entirely on her own like this, and it just makes me so mad. Cameron and Landon are perfectly a-ok with Shep sleeping around, and its ok that the 54 year jack ass sleeps around, but the girl in her twenties, who fell in love with jack ass, no they’ll nail her to a cross. I truly think Cameron’s opinion is colored by Whitney’s mother’s horrible comments. It’s not ok

      • I agree. Ye Old Caftan needs to get on her rug and get out of Charlestonn. She’s a nasty piece of work. There is enough hate on this show to hang ver Charleston for generations. Nuff said.

      • RENOB

        Agreed Carol. This “man” has taken advantage of a young naive woman. The fact that he is a grown man (who looks like SLOTH), living off his parents financial gains, partying like a 20 something druggie, failed politician, sexist, ego-maniac, immature (climbing out of Kathryn’s window when he didn’t get his way)… and women actually want to sleep with him blows my mind. Clearly he is sleeping with Landon and I feel bad that Kathryn still even wants to work things out with such a fool. He will never change. I know Kathryn will eventually mature and hopefully realize what a mess that man is. Landon and him are actually a perfect match – both gaping c*nts.

    • I think I caught her saying some like, “I’m not having any children” while she was arguing with Katheryn. Did anyone else catch that?

      • HazelHickory

        Yes, and since Landon usually spouts the opposite of the truth – one has to wonder – is she pregnant?

    • Don’t ya love it when someone calls a spade a spade? And love it even more when a cunt is called a cunt. And get delirious when a gaping cunt gets called a gaping cunt? I would positively die laughing if it turns out Landon is preggers with Thomas child and he absconds on her like he did to Kathryn. It would all come full circle back in Landons face. Oh the irony…

  2. Toni Lee Gildea

    Such a collection of idiots. How old are these people? The sheer amount of eyerolls rival Jr High. Landon is a nasty piece of work.

    • Margarett

      No kidding, Toni Lee. Beside the eye rolls the facial expressions drove me crazy. It was as if they were junior high age girls.

      I had the impression that Andy was trying to shut down the bickering and talking at the same time of both Landon and Kathryn. I’ll watch again when Deadliest Catch is over…priorities. LOL

      I think Cameron hit the nail on the head when she said that Thomas tries to appease Kathryn.

      • Shae

        That’s the way I feel about Kathryn, regardless of the validity of any point she makes she undermines it by acting like an out of control teenager with the hair flipping, leg kicking, eye rolling, storming off set and nasty faces in response to every single thing someone said. I struggle so hard trying to see what others see in her, but I cannot get past that behavior, it’s like GROW UP, stop rolling your eyes and making stank faces at everything…speak your piece calmly and clearly, like a grown woman and I promise you, you will come out looking the winner. She does have valid points, she just communicates all wrong.

        But she can’t. She acts like she’s having a perpetual tantrum. And again, I’m not saying she has no reason to be upset or that anyone hasn’t wronged her, but her reactions are so immature and childish she undermines her cause. I would literally just shake my head at someone talking to me that way, I wouldn’t even respond.

        Thomas definitely tries to appease her, it’s like tiptoeing around a landmine, and she does the same with him. Nobody wants to deal with the crazy they dish out when they push each other’s buttons. He’s a lost cause, but she’s not, she needs to get that in check, regardless of how others behave, she is a grown woman and a mother of two- she shouldn’t react that way. She could’ve told all of them off without acting so childish.

        Landon has always grated on my nerves, but I’m not sure what I believe about the whole her and Thomas thing. I really am disinterested in that whole bit. I never liked her, don’t care what she’s up to. Wasn’t surprised at all to hear Whitney’s gf is bailing on him (again), what a sham, and I think it was fair for Cameran to say while Thomas was wrong for his nasty delivery, he wasn’t entirely incorrect in that she can be judgmental. I found her the least annoying, second to shep, on the show. She doesn’t squeal like a dolphin or have screaming, nasty, dramatic outbursts.

        I am truly feeling the exhaustion of having stayed up an hour past my bedtime to watch that lol

      • Lou

        I also saw a huge role from Kathryn when Jennifer was being teary…I was a little shocked to see that and disappointed. $3100 a month plus the rent being paid plus nannies is not to be sneezed that Imo

      • tamaratattles

        The $3,100 IS the rent. He pays the rent of $3,100 he has not been paying any other support.

  3. Christina

    Anyone notice that the dolphin didn’t have a glass to toast with at the end?

  4. AuntieAura

    Gawd I hate Blandon.. Why does she have to be so uncool.

    • PickyLongstocking

      Right? The Countess should tell her what’s up. The most boring, pathetic person on television trying to overcompensate for lack of talent (on her back or otherwise).

      • RENOB

        AGREED to both! I couldn’t believe this airhead printed out some fancy pics and thinks someone is going to hire her to do a traveling-hostess gig! LOL that was way more laughable than Kathryn’s jewelry line.

  5. PickyLongstocking

    Landon’s bid to the biggest attention-whore of the night backfired miserably. Andy spoke for all of us, really. She’s the worst.

    • PickyLongstocking

      I meant Landon’s bid to **BE** the biggest attention-whore…

      Surprised no one told her to just please, for the love of all things holy, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

  6. Matzah60

    Your recap is so great that I have nothing to say except that as someone who doesn’t use the c***t word, I think that it was only fair to call Landon a “gaping cunt.” Same could be said for Cameron. I actually despise Landon. She is mean and shady to the bone.

  7. Pottgirl

    A big gaping cunt? Hypocrisy much?

    • Deb

      PottGirl…..Word.

    • tamaratattles

      I really tried to come up with a more offensive term. But Gaping cunt just fit so perfectly. I’m not sure ‘hypocrisy’ means what you think it does.

      • Pottgirl

        Look it up. You tell your commenters not to do it but here you are. Perhaps I should have dumbed it down some.

      • tamaratattles

        Oh yes. I remember now. I tell my commenters not to call people cunts. Oh wait. No, no I don’t. Perhaps you should have read the commenting rules and the comments.

        Enjoy your seat in the WLS, Potty. I may even toss you a bottle of Windex.

      • SLM

        OMG I love you TT!! EVERYTHING. I don’t even read any of the other recapping sites anymore. You. Are.The. BEST.

  8. Sali

    Excellent recap! 100% agree that Landon is 100% a cunt.

  9. alex1986

    Landon is the worst. When she laughed at Kathryn’s necklace design I wanted to punch her in the face. And Cameran sucks too. If Kathryn threw a dinner party and insulted all the guests like Thomas did I guarantee Cameran’s ass wouldn’t be sitting next to her on the couch laughing about it at the reunion. I hope when Whitney got up and gave Kathryn a hug Landon and Cameron felt stupid since I’m sure they were mainly mean to Kathryn all season at Whitney and his mom’s request. I actually found Whitney pretty tolerable in this reunion. He clearly knows as a producer of the show he has to bring Kathryn back for ratings
    and his best bet now would to start being civil with her. And again, Landon is the worst.

    • Amy Lou

      West Coast here and the reunion isn’t on for another hour but I had to read the recap. I find it amusing that Landon would throw shade at Kathryn’s necklace design while wearing those terrible drugstore earrings.

      • HazelHickory

        Great comment! Landon has terrible taste (especially in earrings), and I like Kathryn’s necklace! Good for Kathryn! Of course, you have to have a long neck like Kathryn to wear it! And Landon is a “no-neck monster”. I do hope that Landon is not pregnant by Thomas and that is not why she had nothing to drink. Landon is capable of anything. I guess (since she denies sleeping with Thomas and Shep won’t have her) it would have to be an immaculate conception.

      • True_Joy

        At least K has an idea about what she wants to do. Landon is still trying to sell stupid ideas that don’t require her to do any real work.

      • Blondesense

        Not to mention Landon is a lot older than Kathryn

      • Calipatti

        Amy , I’ve read Landon did not recieve very much from her marriage, very little personal stuff. Allegedly.

        Maybe that’s why she is so mean plus Kathryn is younger with two children.

      • elisabeth

        ” . . . . he has to bring (Kathryn) back for ratings.” When Whitney hugged Kathryn, I really didn’t buy it either. Really thought he did it for the cameras.

    • HiKitty

      Ha, I was actually proud of him. It was shocking but I think he saw that she is just a young girl and human, these hags on the couch were being plain nasty to her – it was unbearable to watch but I felt like I need to to support Kathryn – as if she would even know, we’re rooting for you girl!

      • Dee

        I think (hope) Kathryn knows we are rooting for her. We see what’s happening

      • So true, Kitty. Whitney hugged Kathryn when cameras were off. He saw Landon’s true colors and the look on Landon’s face was priceless. Kathryn does need to behave better if she wants to be taken seriously.

      • I don’t believe Whitney has an altruistic bone in his body. I am from the School of If Someone Shows You Who They Are, Believe Them – and his confessionals and scenes with the other gaslighters on the show for the last 2 years speak for themselves. I believe if anything, he is acting out of self interest to protect himself and his mother against the public backlash from all the hazing they instigate, so enter in WS Smith boarding the Civility Train just as season wraps, in a transparent attempt to neatly tidy up public perception about all his underhanded f**kery. I don’t think he’s seen poopstank, other than the fact that his IMDB executive credits need flashing out and that’s hard to do when you offer yourself up on national television as a vengeful, boorish, Mama’s Boy who publicly keeps his panties twisted in a bunch over unrequited love for several months out of each year.

      • Portlandia

        Yes! Single best synopsis of entire Whitney dynamic ever. Gas lighters, indeed… Love ‘boarding the Civility Train’ almost as much as buying a ticket on the clue bus.

    • 25

      Cameron & Landon were Whitney’s pawns and they’re foolish to think otherwise. To be clear, Kathryn said something complimentary about his “girlfriend” on air, and then said something nice to him during the break. What was he going to do-tell her to fuck off? She was the bigger person, not Whitney.

    • Whitney is a queen….closet freak and he probably has a rent boy stashed somewhere.

    • Parker Wyeth

      Whitney was EP on one episode in 2014/season 1.

  10. ZenJen55

    OK call me garish but I liked Kathryn’s necklace! It needed a matching beaded cuff bracelet. It is what Southern style jewelry looks like. I’ve always thought Kathryn has a great flair reflecting Southern fashion.

    K Cooper Ray should be given a full-time role and ditch Craig and Landon.

    Cameran please return to season one personality, I loved your intros each week

    • Matzah60

      The necklace was beautiful. It’s vintage costume jewelry. Why would Landon ‘giggle”…not even laugh, but giggle like a child right in her fact. What an nasty bitch. Landon is like a tween or teen. She argues always with the need to have the last word. Even when Andy told her to shut up before he blew his head up, she HAD to respond, “I know Andy. I want to blow my head up too.” She interjected a nasty dig at Kathryn even when Andy directed the questions to other castmates. I really felt like sticking my fist through the TV set every time Landon laughed or made a malicious comment about Kathryn which was just about the entire hour. She has to go. She doesn’t stir the pot. She just is a hateful, nasty bitch. When Andy can’t stand the bitch, the bitch has to go.

      • Getting too into this but recap and comments are superb. Regarding Landon, I agree, she should be dumped from the show. There has to be a “bad” guy/girl but this creature is a heated, obsessive, hating, entitled monster! Can’t allude to MH because I don’t dare, but there is a serious issue there. Notice how her dad was with her? As if there has always been a problem….? Yet another reason to get rid of her. She is a thermal nuclear loose canon. Duck folks!

  11. Joanplus2dogs

    I didn’t understand Landon laughing about her jewelry. Granted it may be pieces she wouldn’t buy but Kathryn actually had products to sell unlike Landon. I firmly believe if they didn’t have sex, they came extremely close to it. I had close male friends but looking at the pics from London , not that close! Thomas is right against her body with his arm wrapped around & his hand just below her boobs. Nope, no male friends would be posing like that unless they were or going to move pass the friend title. They not admitting it is what pisses Kathryn off – the lying.

  12. Shelley O'Brien

    I think Kathryn didn’t announce her pregnancy at the reunion because she was most likely under 3 months. Most pregnant women don’t like to announce until after they passed 3 month period. I would love to see the engagement ring designed, and her purposed 7 times; that must of fried the dolphins cunt…. Tamra YOU NAILED GIRL!!!

  13. Billie_bee

    OMG. Maybe that’s why her face looks so huge and bloated.

  14. quincygirl

    #LandonIsACunt yes it should trend! Prayers to Jen, her baby has a horrible medical condition that actually could be terminal. A friend of mind had a baby and he only lived less than 2 weeks with that condition, it wasn’t downs. He said his brother had downs, her baby has brain encepheloces.
    Great recap as always. Landon is disgusting. I believe they either did or attempted to and they quit before the deed was done. Yes, she taunted their friendship in front of Kathryn with all the pics on purpose. Nobody else has pics with her except Thomas on her social media… take a seat Landon, you have been necked.
    Whitney took the high road and hugged Kathryn, I was impressed. Yes, Larissa is still a beard in my opinion too. Ha Thomas is his man crush. Nobody says the word “bros” over the age of 30? I wish Kathryn would think before she spoke at times, I do like her but she is so angry with Landon. Landon just needs to shut it! And Landon she didn’t lock the door, she put her hand on the door. Idiot. Yes, thomas says things to appease Kathryn but she says things to appease Thomas too. It’s compromise.

  15. Chloe

    Landumb says she works her ass off. Doing what pray tell? At least Kathryn is trying to take care of herself. She has a talent, which is one more than Kathryn.

    • kate62

      Landon works her ass off trying to offer her ass to those that don’t want her ass! That’s what pisses her off. She throws herself at these men and Katherine has never had to. Since season one every single man on the show has gone after Katherine. Including Craig! Crap even Cooper is now in Katherine’s corner. Landon is eat up with jealousy because even though she’s willing to give it up, there are NO takers.

      • Great comment Kate62…and TRUTH all the way….I wish we knew if KD reads these blogs and sees the viewers love her and hate Landon. Just as I hope Landon reads and sees how much she truly is despised for her truly sick behavior.

  16. Auntie Velvet

    I wish it were true that Landon didn’t laugh at Jennifer, but there was a moment where that was, in fact, happening. Jennifer just kind of winced and I think for once it got Landon (and possibly Cameron) to stop.

  17. Hot in Miami

    Did Cameran latest tweet mean she is done with the show?

    • Matzah60

      One can only hope!

    • Bee

      It sure seems like she’s saying Bye! A recap of photos and all. I hope so. I think for the children’s sake and the sanity of their parents, the show needs to end. Horrible mess for them to live thru and have to have documented as well. Trash…thanks to Landon, Pat, Whitney, Cam and of course, Thomas.

    • Cal

      I hope so. Ever since watching her eat with her mouth open like a lop sided grinding machine I haven’t been able to notice anything about her except that mouth.

      Looks like she had some cosmetic dentistry —applied veneers that are too large for her actual bite and natural teeth. She is now always moving her mouth around like she is trying to find a comfortable fit for her teeth or fit her mouth over her teeth—-very distracting.

  18. 25

    Omg Cameran and Landon saying that Thomas tries to appease Kathryn because she is scary. Shep saying she was scary when yelling at Whitney on Jekyll island. And then all three of them laugh off Thomas’ threatening actions at his dinner party when he literally chased them off his property after/during his verbal assault. MADDENING. Twilight zone-level maddening!

  19. Wampascat

    As someone who lives near Charleston, I’ll just never understand the appeal of Thomas Ravenel. Who would want to fight over that jug eared, gap-toothed buffoon?

    • Katherine 2.0

      Wampascat, EXACTLY. Your description makes him sound like the cartoon he is, and made me laugh and laugh. Is he a product of inbreeding, perchance?

      • Bee

        The rest of Thomas’ family are well-mannered, productive, law-abiding, lovely people. He’s just a bafoon. Always has been and can’t get it right despite himself. It’s sad really. I wouldn’t let friends who were new to Chas date Thomas Ravenel! “Just say No!” He is a financially successful mess. But there are still female idiots who can’t see that (Landon) and who believe his pitiful one-sided victim stories (Landon) and would still be swooned by his $$ and persona (Landon)….so he rolls on.
        Jane, JD is younger than Thomas and not from here (Chas). So that’she not correct abt them knowing each other way back then.

      • Bee

        *So that’s not correct, I meant. TRav and JD not friends since kindergarten.

    • Iprefermyteaunsweetend

      Exactly! He is an embarrassment. Has been for years. He’s the epitome of the spoiled, wealthy, southern playboy who never grew up and still lives off his family’s money. I cannot understand Kathryn’s attraction to him especially considering there are many more suitable men in the Chas area. I fear she’s made herself less desirable by being involved with the likes of TR.

  20. Frosty

    Ha, that last sentence is the best!
    TRav is the (lowest) common denominator here. It seemed to me he and Kathryn were still at least somewhat sexually involved after Saint’s birth, they were still together in some fashion. But TRav was also running Landon. He must be telling her some bullshit to make Landon so cocky. She just seems like a twit though. TRav is the most troubled one in the group, in my opinion.
    That boy ain’t right.

    • Landon and TRav have a “sworn forever or die” pact to keep certain elements of their relationship secret. If this shit-storm continues, it will come out.

      Why does no one go after Pat? She’s a narcissistic, evil bitch! The quaint charm has long worn off….

      I need my medicine so that I can get off this great space.

    • I totally agree with your insight of what might be making Landon so cocky. Particularly when she asked Thomas if he ‘brought some documents to show’. Thomas must have fed Landon some line there or she would not have suggested it. Even more enlightening was Thomas telling Landon ‘stay out of this’ after Landon got pushy about the documents. And how her lower jaw slapped shut at his command. Interviewed people for years and totally into body language. There were a couple of times Landon turned to Whitney too, as though expecting to get a pat on the head or a smile of encouragement but Whit ignored Landon….for the MOST part.
      Landon will rue the day she put on such a shit show in front of God and so many viewers. You can bet Landon was spoken of in hushed, but derogatory terms behind closed Charleston doors. And any women who are mothers, sisters, aunts, best friends (whatever) of any guy who takes Landon out ONCE will get an earful and dire warning what Landons true colors are. We women will protect our menfolk from the likes of the Landons out there.

  21. Kim

    Someone should remind Landon that ‘working your ass off’ requires having a JOB. It’s so obvious Landon is jealous of Kathryn. If she’s trying to convince everyone she didn’t bang Thomas, she could start by stopping trying to be Thomas’ mouthpiece. Any time a question is turfed to Thomas Landon feels the need to answer for him. Hoping this is the last time we have to hear her shrill voice or see her squinty, smug, smarmy face! Other than her banging Thomas & outward hatred of Kathryn she has no storyline. Not being able to start her own website doesn’t count as a storyline either.

    • JKR

      The only ass-working that woman is doing is very near to Thomas’ crotch.
      I think Kathryn truly loves Thomas. I do. But I think in Landon’s demented mind, Kathryn got the meal-ticket she (Landon) is looking for. And I think it drives her crazy. It couldn’t be much more obvious how jealous she is.

    • PopcornAndVodka

      Ten year olds know how to start a website, especially one that is basically a blog.
      Creating a successful one is a whole different story, but the fact that she can’t even log into WordPress and download a pre-made template says a lot about how much work she really wants to put into this.

      And she is way too invested in Thomas & Kathryn to be innocent. Instead she wants us to believe that any woman going with a single man on an expenses paid romantic vacation over Valentine’s are not hooking up. Yes, men and women can be platonic friends, but they don’t go on romantic Valentine’s vacations together. Again, these are the types of denials that only ten year olds think anyone would believe.

      Landon’s just mad because she fails at being a golddigger even worse than Kathryn did. GAWD I just can’t with Landon.

      • JKR

        Her website is a picture. A single picture.
        I made a functioning, multi-page website in under three hours using a template. It’s not perfect or professionally made, but the links bring you somewhere. At least Kathryn could see and touch what she “made.”

      • To JKR below…has anyone noticed Landon now has a ‘partner’ for the website? So no, Landon does not have the brains to download a WordPress template. I am wondering how long the ‘partnership’ will last and also wonder if the partner had to make an ‘investment’ to get on board the sinking ship named Landon. Hope TT keeps on top of this trainwreck as well.
        I know I shouldn’t, but I take delight in knowing Landons dad refused to bankroll her. Why should he when the stats show her net worth at 3 mil. WTF? How could one even dare to ask for a handout with that amount of net worth. And it can’t be the house alone. Also, her sister tried to talk some sense into her about getting a REAL job with bennies and paycheck lol. And I remember the scolding she got from her mom at the beginning of the season.
        Landon has become synonymous with l o s e r .

  22. Kay

    Did anybody else notice Landon giggle and act inappropriate when Jen was on abs getting a bit emotional. I deleted the episode so I can’t go back and see what it was directed at.

  23. Dd

    *giggling like a kindergartner*…#dolphincunt

  24. I just wish Kathryn would stop with those crazy arm and hand gestures. Makes her look like a drama queen.

    • All those gestures made me think of Fredrik Eklund – not a good look. She needs some self-control.

      • Briannatozer16

        I think that’s just how she expresses herself. Pretty sure I’ve seen LvP roll her eyes more than Kathryn did and jersey housewives use their hands more when they speak but I’ve never read comments attacking them Lol … Ever think everyone else she was on stage w was just so inexpressive bc they clearly don’t have as much invested??

      • I think she was on something, she couldn’t control herselfv

  25. Briannatozer16

    Landon and Cam set women back 20 years. I’m not even a feminist but the way they teehee and flirt with trav is disgusting. Given his history (w drugs, hitting on women, lying, trying to fight them.. Etc) and then the nerve they have to judge Kathryn every time she takes a gasp of air is unsettling and disgusting. Especially since Cam had sex on camera in a hot tub and hosted girls gone wild? Really…? I believe a thousand percent that Landon and Trav had sex but she’s extorting him behind the scenes so he can’t admit it easily. She was all too excited to grab Trav during the finale and force him to deny all of the rumors as if she has something to hold over his head. She kept giving him “the eye” on the couch .. Like “remember, I’ve got you by the balls”. Still confused as to why Landon has to do some much rebuilding after leaving such a successful man.. She shoudlve been a little setup in the divorce .. Unless he’s the one that filed?

    • Erica

      Not to mention that both of them giggled and tattered to Andy that they were in their early 20s to excuse their behavior on the previous shows, yet completely trash Kathryn who is …. wait for it… in her early 20s.

      • Monalisa

        Some of the girls on “Girls Gone Wild” we’re underage. No excuse, she’s a Deviant

    • More Tea Please!

      He did file!

    • Yup, the husband filed and richity-richity rich. His company does sports signage for global brand sponsors at championship level events: think the Olympics, Wimbledon, Grand Prix, World Cups, ect.. Basically, that means at any sports championship or major tournament around the globe, any given arena, those large signs you see advertising sponsors are produced and managed logistically by his company, they even hold the patent on their collaspable design. He’s been head honcho of the company for 20 years and the money they make managing brand signage on soccer cups alone keeps him swimming in Euros and pounds . Which is all the more puzzling how Landon walked away with so little from that marriage and ended up living on that boat. She’s clearly been bred to marry “well” and expects to live life with a certain degree of panache: how did she exit that union with a divorce settlement that looks like it came from a Crackerjack box? Looks odd to me, as in…”GIRLWHATDIDYOUDOTOMESSUPYOURSECURITYMONEY?” odd. As mean and steely as she is, one would expect a lot more game from a 30 something would be socialite so invested in the Thomas-Kathryn relationship and living arrangements.

      • PopcornAndVodka

        They were only married four years and had no children, but I wonder if there was a prenup as well. She basically got out with only $2K a month for a year. Either there was a prenup or she was caught doing something she shouldn’t have. It wasn’t her hubby’s first go-round, so I doubt he was going to let himself get taken advantage of.

      • kate62

        From the looks of it Patti is teaching her the game.

      • tamaratattles

        Well, you didn’t hear it from me but it seems that Landon has a source of employment that led her to meet her husband (and lot of other people’s husband) and when the husband was done with her he threatened to expose her. Allegedly. So the streets say.

      • SLM

        Wait…..she was doing…WHAT?!?!?! Then maybe Landon KNOWS about being talented “on your back?!” Was THAT what TRav was drunkenly referring to when he was talking about BLandon’s “intimate skills,” or whatever he called them?????? 😲😲😲😲😲😲

      • 25

        THAT’S the tea I’ve been waiting for. Oooh girl that’s good on this hot day

      • Kate Gates

        Shut the damn door! I KNEW IT!! NO wonder Shep wouldn’t touch… And that’s the lowest bar possible!

      • PopcornAndVodka

        TT: BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA. Thank you for that (alleged) info.

      • RealE

        TT- that is some delicious, sweet tea.

      • Kate 62…Patti is teaching Landon the game…Do you mean as in Patti Stanger of millionaire matchmaker???? I don’t want that show…Was Landon on it? Scheduled to be on it. Oh, spill the beans please…
        Oh, and I thought I read Landon had been a ‘design’ person. That would somewhat fit into the ex’s world of employment….

    • Lindsay

      All the lols, was the hot tub fucking on The Real World?!

    • Bri…the document was posted on one of the sites and Landon was listed as ‘respondent’ so HE was the one who filed. Which is more proof of her lies because she was telling the world how unhappy she was in the marriage and Shep would be the friendship she didn’t have in her marriage and finally…her absurd comment of how ‘sometimes you need to save yourself’….good grief, can we paint ourselves as any more of a victim???
      In reality, KD was right…Landon did get fired as ‘the stepmom’ roflmao. I loved KD for getting that in there. Landon left almost literally with the clothes on her back and headed to a Colorado ski village on gold digger expedition number 2.
      Now she is in Charleston on gold digger expedition number 3.
      Can you say EPIC FAIL Landon? Hope you are reading this and watching the truth come out. Not your version, but the verifiable truth.

      • Briannatozer16

        Hmmm I think that’s what I was saying in my post? Lol. why would she (throught out her entire first season)’claim she left the marriage when really she got kicked out? #Sociopath Lol.. It’s so funny that she acts like he was the one doing wrong.. So she ran away from “that man”. She really is pathetic. :(

      • The operative word is sociopath. Add narcissist and one has an interpersonal explosive.

      • Agree ‘re JD – an opportunistic tubby boy.

      • Margarett

        I don’t put much stock in which spouse filed for divorce. My ex-husband got the divorce that we both wanted. He was willing to pay an attorney and fool with the paperwork. I was happy to be relieved of both.

  26. Erica

    I think that Whitney finally realized that he and Kathryn are on the same side in that they have been sucked in by the shitstorm that is Thomas. That they have more in common then he realized. It’s frankly will be delicious if Whitney starts to defend Kathryn and stand up for her when it is appropriate to do so.

    There also may be the fact that he and his momma realized she is as pedigreed as Thomas, without the felony and without the social media backlash.

    • Annie Marie

      Hmm, maybe just Whit. His momma is still retweeting negative stuff about Kathryn. She may never change her mind. Can’t teach an old dog new tricks.

  27. Tori

    I think I’m most disappointed in Cameran. She really show who she is at her core & I’m utterly disgusted. Kathryn is trying to start a business and they laughed in her face. Just heartbreaking for Kathryn, I understand why she gets so reactive. There’s only so much a person can take. I’m glad she made some peace with Whitney, but old Patti will always be in everyone’s ears. I just hate this show, I will never watch again if there’s another season. I would be fine with Cameran or Landon falling off a ledge

  28. rc6138

    Landon was asking Dad for rent money, but somehow we are to believe that her and Thomas meeting in London is coincedence?

  29. Jelley

    I wish Kathryn was a bit more mature for her sake. I’m still #teamKathryn. If she would be able to ignore at least SOME of landon’s bemoanment, she would look a zillion times better.

    Landon is insufferable with NO redeeming qualities. None.

    • Kim

      @Jelley I agree with you. In Kathryn’s somewhat defense she is the youngest one (what is she 22 or something?). (Can you imagine the maturity level of some of the cast at 22?!) She’s been on the defensive with this crew since day 1, except now, the rest of the entire cast is her blatant opposition. She does have some support from Jen & Cooper (& I forgot her name but also JD’s wife, I think) but none of the full time cast. Hope next season is recast or alliances shift. I’m over the whole ‘world against Kathryn’ storyline. Not sure how that will happen as long as Whitney is a producer & is at odds with Kathryn. I can hope though!

      • JD’s wife is Elizabeth…but there is also Danni Baird, who I constantly used to confuse with Jennifer since they are both blondes..

  30. I think Landon was dropped on her head multiple times as a baby.

  31. Candymule

    Does shep have veneers?

  32. Katherine 2.0

    So, who thinks Cam is going to divorce hubby and end up with Shep? Maybe that’s why she’s so intent on pointing the bony finger at Kathryn. She’s jealous they hooked up, and she’s deflecting attention from her relationship issues to Kathryn’s public mess.
    Just a working theory, based on absolutely nothing.
    While I am making predictions, Landon winds up with some old fart, gets a ton of plastic surgery and tries to get a spot on Real Housewives.

  33. Dee

    Kinda shocked to hear Landon just happened to run into Thomas in London, then took photos. Is it called gas lighting? I feel so sorry for Kathryn

    • SLM

      I know, Dee…how do you just “run into” someone randomly like that in LONDON. I’ve been to London – it’s massive and bustling and while there I actually couldn’t even find a FRIEND I had arranged to meet ahead of time because we kept miscommunicating and missing each other!! Either she and TRAV planned to be there together or she stalked the shiz out of him and tracked him down like a bloodhound hoping to get her hooks in.

      • Margarett

        Didn’t Thomas say that Landon had insisted on having her own room? That sounds to me as if, when the plan to take Kathryn fell through, he went to plan b.

        What the two of them did or didn’t do seems to be beside the point. They were two single adults. Well, chronologically anyway. To quote “Steel Magnolias” there are some sick tickets out there.

  34. Laureen Spina

    Jennifer’s baby doesn’t have Down Syndrome, it has brain encephalocele, a neural tube defect that can be highly debilitating and fatal. It will require brain surgery as soon as it’s born. My prayers are with her. Long road ahead.

    • Shae

      That is a ridiculously hard decision and while it’s nice of thomas to admire Jennifer’s character for keeping the baby, I wouldn’t think it’s fair to judge her character negatively if she had chosen not to proceed with the pregnancy. I hope all turns out well for her.

      • PopcornAndVodka

        Very true, Shae, hopefully Thomas just meant that it reflected extraordinarily on Jennifer, and not in a good vs bad way.

  35. country club girl

    When Whitney was trying to clear Thomas of sleeping with Landon he said Thomas told him they didn’t but said Thomas told him he sure did try! You can’t try without SOMETHING happening! So at the very least they did something!

  36. Shae

    It was also total bullshit to imply Thomas lost the election because Kathryn didn’t come back from Jekyll Island fast enough to clear up the whole hairdresser/assault charge bit. He was going to lose that from day one, it was a pipe dream to think otherwise. I do recall everyone giving Kathryn shit, though, for staying and not going right home when Thomas asked her to. Bust her chops over that, don’t imply she somehow cost him the election, that’s absurd lol

    So dumb of Landon to say.

    • SLM

      I’m right there wih you, Shae! You know what I am upset about in remembering the Jekyll Island incident? If you recall, that was the first getaway Kathryn had after weeks and weeks of being unceremoniously abandoned in their home by TRAV when he said he had no interest in wasting time on his domestic responsibilities and decided to stay in a luxury hotel to focus on his (BS) campaign and leave her behind to function as a single mom. Do you recall when she tried calling him to talk about Kensie and he wouldn’t even answer his phone for her FOR DAYS, and then eventually just had his campaign manager call her and tell her to buzz off? BUT… then something happens in his life while she’s on a (production) trip trying to work (on the show) and she’s supposed to DROP EVERYTHING and rocket to his side?!?!?!? WTF. He set the tone for their relationship at that juncture – which seemed to be an “every person for themselves” philosophy…but when he needed something, that suddenly no longer applied. I actually believe that hair stylists allegations. In my opinion, I can totally see him raving himself into some under the influence rage and pushing her down the stairs…I mean, look what condition he was in at that dinner party this season. I actually thought he was going to smash Shep in the face…and he considers Shep a friend!! Thomas is VERY obviously one of those narcissistic manchildren who thinks whatever he wants is valid and however anyone else feels is irrelevant. Kathryn will move on to better things!

    • If it ever saw the light of day, I’m pretty sure that crackpot sabotage of a campaign video from Whitney making light of Thomas’s past transgressions didn’t help either. That was so infuriating to watch being that it SCREAMED set-up to anyone that has the discernment of a fruit fly. I’m not quite ready to buy tickets to the Whitney is a Good Guy After All show just yet. The only difference between the dirt he has dealt both Kathryn and Thomas is that the latter he does subtly and under the guise of benevolence and “BRO”-therhood.

      • HazelHickory

        Could not agree more! That campaign video by Whitney seemed designed to cause Thomas to fail. Typical (alleged) closet case sabotage against the object of one’s unrequited affections. Imo, Whit is motivated by deep feelings of jealousy and insecurity, which he tries to mask with the outward guise of social propriety, and until that changes – it’s the same old “Bro”.

    • Lindsay

      Yeah, he could probably have gotten 6% instead of 4% of the vote had that story not come out, amirite😜

  37. Dandy Lion

    Landon has the nerve to laugh at Kathryn’s jewelry line? Is she not the same woman who presented a website….ON PAPER?!?!?

  38. Barbara

    Still desperately looking for the charm….Kathryn, honey, please stop looking for integrity from any of them on the other couch, you will never find it…

  39. JoJoFLL

    What on earth would cause Landon to act like this?

    Her parents must be mortified.

    I honestly don’t see her having any deep love for Thomas which is the only excuse I could possibly come up with.

    Also, her professed love for Shep was as fake as Nene’s Birkin bags.

    Could this possibly be producer prompted?

    Or am I just dense?

  40. Meri

    Great blog as always. I was so disgusted by Landon’s behavior that I barely got thru the show. What a horrible person she is. Can’t the others see this? Thomas looked guilty the entire time and very foolish for a grown man.
    Katherine, who does act her age, did the best she could under the horrible circumstances of having to sit near a rabid dog like Landon (I refuse to compare her to a Dolphin because I love Dolphins).
    I hope that she doesn’t return to the show but sadly, she will. They need the drama. I hope that she goes back to living on the boat and that it sinks before the next season can film.
    Do I think that Katherine and Thomas will wind up together…..not if she grows up and realizes that she can do much better despite him being the father of her children.

  41. CDWASH

    Love the jab from Kathryn re: cunta losing her step mom job. SHE GOT FIRED.
    Cameron finally gets exposed…It was funny how shocked she acted when Andy asked her
    if she showed her tiny titties. Nothing to see here people

    Everytime Kathryn spoke cunta looked at Whitney and laughed. She wanted a big F U party on that side of the sofa. I think Whitney finally got it about the fact that this is serious crap because there
    are 2 baby angels that need both parents. Not funny squinty eyes.

    Yes she actually chuckled with Cameron about Kathryn’s necklace. This is after she was humiliated
    at a business meeting on national tv for turning in a piece of paper.

    Go away Renee Zellwegger prior to surgery slit eye look alike. Gross. I really hope Daddy just gives her some money forever.

  42. Amy V

    I must say that…Kathyrn is the most gorgeous whack job ever. Love it!

  43. Jane

    Interesting tidbit…I heard from someone who would know that TRav and JD have been friends since kindergarten.

    Can’t think about a single thing likeable about Landon.

    • tamaratattles

      Your “someone who would know” is a fucking moron. JD was born and raised in Colorado and came to CHS for college and never left.

      • Jane

        Well, that’s truly odd and goes to show you not to believe what you hear. And now that you mention it, I recall reading the CO background.

  44. JKR

    Landon. Disgusting. How can you find joy in the turmoil of a family? Disjointed, dysfunctional, whatever- it is still a family. With two young children. Babies. She should be ASHAMED.
    There’s no way in hell that girl didn’t screw Thomas. Or at least desperately want to. Maybe people would stop accusing her if she wasn’t acting like a defensive, jealous girlfriend.
    I hope she reads here. What a cunt. If she returns to this show, I won’t.

  45. Twilly

    I wish someone had brought up Thomas complimenting Landon’s “skills” to his porno friend and suggesting he take her for a spin. If he was never with her, how would he know?

  46. JKR

    Also, just checked out Landon’s fancy roam-guide dot com (I don’t know if links will throw me into moderation)
    There’s one picture. You can’t even “roam” the site. I did a better job using weebly. At least Kathryn had something to show.
    I despise this woman, and it disturbs me.

    • HazelHickory

      Yes, Landon’s treatment of Kathryn has been truly despicable. What I cannot figure out is why (when Landon always wants to join in with the group, and laugh the loudest, and wanted so much to share a martini with Patty) —- it was Landon, alone, who did not join in the drinks at the end. Instead, Landon sat up straight in her seat to make a point of calling attention to herself as the one person who was not joining in a drink. I found it to be very odd and kind of brazen. Anyone have any guesses as to the reason for Landon’s behavior?

      • TooMuch2Say

        Towards the end of the reunion I noticed that Andy said something to Landon something to the effect “that she seemed upset.” Then when they had drinks at the end, she refused join in. I think Landon was pissed at how things went during the reunion, so she refused to drink with the cast. (She was upset with Whitney hugging Kathryn, and she was upset that Thomas told her to “stay out of it” during the drug test discussion). Landon business ideas are laughable. I’ve never seen anyone more clueless. Just vapid. Plus she’s just annoying in every way–her smile, her face, her attitude, her mannerisms, her VOICE!

    • Me, too. I don’t like what LC’s rabid array of hate-assaults induce in me. She is NOT someone who “makes me a better person”.

      Wish we could all coach Kathryn for a week. She could be regal.

  47. Jane

    Finally got to watch it and the winner is Jennifer. She came off as sincere. I was glad to see Kathryn and Whitney make peace. Who needs drama? Of course Landon was the worst, but laughing at the necklace was uncalled for.

  48. Brianna

    I feel for Kathryn. I wish however she would take a breath before she responds to the others so she can articulate better her issues with the others. I know it’s very emotional for her and she is still very young. Landon is just a mean girl and there is no way to communicate with her because she will never own up to her childish behavior.

  49. Can you give us a back story on Landon’s friend Robyn? Who is she? Where did she come from? How close were they? Will she off the record or a “friend” of hers off the record talk to you?

    • tamaratattles

      No idea. I doubt she was actually a friend of Landon’s. Landon basically moved to CHS to be on the show and does seem like the type that many would want to befriend. I think Robin was a plant that was there specifically to out the fuckery between Thomas and Landon.

      • Bee

        I thought Shep said (or I read comment by Shep) that he knew Robyn for a long time and introduced her to Landon, maybe in college. So L wouldn’t know Robyn without Shep. How she knew to say what she said, I don’t know, unless prompted by producers…because it was never addressed ever again.

  50. I don’t think we’ve ever seen Andy this agitated at a reunion show taping. He clearly did not want to be there and he CLEARLY was very unhappy with Landon.

  51. formerly kkbella

    1. Kathyrn needs to learn how to react/act in public situations- it will only serve her intent, and (OMG) bloodline. I am in her corner due to her age and honesty. She also gets to wear whatever the fuck she wants, and can design whatever she wants, as those under 30 get to be TRENDY. The rest of us fuckwads better look to what works for us.YOUTH rules the day in this category.
    Grow up and face it, all you 30 and 40 somethings trying to adjust your level of appropriateness. My hot body left my 20’s a long time ago. But at least I knew when to get aboard another train for a new destination,
    2. Cameran, formerly my favorite, is now in the WLS, AND, has shown the true colors of the nastiest southern belles I have known. (being an italian by way of No California, this may be hard to understand) At the end of the day, push comes to shove, and they are only concerned about their own skin, and those who can protect them. Fuck that fake smile. Sanctimonious is the WORD.
    Gots one in my own family. She showed her shallowness, and lack of moral character. no matter how she tries to gloss it over. Done with the girl.
    3. TRav is a bone fide narcissist. I watch him, with his social awkwardness, attempts at being gracious, and the entire time I see complete lack of social concience. BIG FLAG, well masked, by a true veteran.
    4. Landon, needs no further comment here, as you all have covered it.

  52. Greenwood

    I wish the show would end right now, for the good of the children. If Kathryn left, maybe it would end. But I don’t think she will ever leave, because she needs the money and the attention. I hate the jerks that have bullied her, but I’m starting to realize that she is probably a train wreck and might not get her head on straight for many years. The important thing is the children, and they sure do look healthy and happy in Thomas’ photos. I suppose I should give him a little credit for that…grudgingly. It’s odd that Kathryn isn’t responding with her own photos of the kids when they are with her. That’s very odd. Something is going on, I think.

  53. Tamara, so glad to have you as the Empress of the Landon is a Cunt universe. I bow before you. I detest Landon so much that I can’t even put it into words. The jealousy of Kathryn just oozes out of every disgusting pore on her bitchy, eye-rolling, spiteful, disgusting body. Kathryn looked beautiful at the reunion – she’s a striking woman – and I thought her decoration around her neck (not sure what to call it) was very pretty. For Landon to roll her squinty eyes when Kathryn talked about starting a vintage jewelry business was comical considering she’s the most clueless and unintelligent business woman there ever was. I missed the part where Andy told her to shut up – it would have been the highlight of my day so I’ll have to watch the rerun. Landon is going to have a hard time trapping any man after this – any guy with balls and half a brain is going to run screaming in the opposite direction. So sorry for Jennifer – a brain encephalocele is a horrible thing, and knowing the baby you’re carrying has such a major problem must be heart-breaking. I wouldn’t have had the guts to proceed with the pregnancy, and I admire her for having the strength to keep her baby. Best wishes to them both. Landon? Go away. Far, far away. In the meantime, I’ll leave it to Tamara to keep up the AWESOME and EXCELLENT job she’s doing to ridicule and vilify that horrible creature pretending to be a Southern lady.

  54. margroc

    Landon talks, or should I see squeal, like she and Thomas are a bona fide couple. When she talks for him or says things about documents. I think all signs point to her seeing him and I don’t think he’d see anyone without sex being involved. Her jealousy of Kathryn is palpable. Someone should tell her it’s not a good look.

    • RENOB

      Agreed. Why would he be sharing such intimate details of his personal life with Kathryn if he wasn’t banging her? He bragged to his buddy about her bedroom skills, only one reason for that. She does hate Kathryn because she feels TRav was HER meal ticket! Um, Landon – You are his f*cktoi! When he is done with you, he is going to trash you like no other man has. He will bury Landon once he is done banging her, I promise that. TRav is male chauvinist TRASH. Landon is going to experience Karma and we all get to enjoy it, so she must come back to the show. I HAVE to see her demise.

  55. Chai

    I feel sick after watching that. Season 1 was so great. It’s sad

  56. sarah

    $3100/month… $4100/month…. how could any mother receive this amount of money and complain?? It doesn’t take $10k a month to raise two kids, why are Kathryns kids different? I saw the fancy plexiglass crib for the second child and i was done. When my child as born I spent $100 on a Wal-Mart crib, a simple stroller and $40 changing table. Diapers are $50 a month, formula $100 a month. It takes a TON of love, attention, and stability to raise young kids, not thousands and thousands of dollars. Regardless, I felt sorry for Kathryn when everybody laughed at her about her jewelry pieces.

    • Briannatozer16

      It’s about quality of life. If your children are af your house and it’s a cramped 2 bedroom apartment then they go to their fathers and it’s a 7 bedroom mansion w basketball vourt and swimming pool then they will be more inclined to want to go their dads all the time even though he’s hired nannies to take care them (this just an example but based on SC). That’s why some athletes are order to pay over 30k/mo for child support for a couple of children so the custodial parent can “keep up”… 3000/mo really isn’t that much.

      • sarah

        Ahh i see… well i guess those athletes baby mamas found a golden ticket if they’re getting $30k/month (!!!).

    • PopcornAndVodka

      Briannatozer is correct. While I roll my eyes at wives who complain they can’t live on the $50,000+/month they receive, and while I see no reason why Kathryn can’t get a job or take some nanny time and go back to school, she does have every right to get more than $3100. Thomas should be paying enough to get those kids clothed to his high standards, and enrolled in private schools, and basically live very similarly at Kathryn’s home as they do at his. He has NO obligation to support Kathryn herself though.

      That said, I wish I knew where you got your diapers from, Sarah, because back in the 1990s I was paying over $50 per *week* – but maybe because I had two kids… I can’t deny my memory is very fuzzy these days LOL.

      • Don’t forget, Kathryn said that the only reason Thomas is paying the rent is because his name is on the lease and he doesn’t want bad credit.

        As soon as the lease is up, I’m sure she will have to move back home.

    • RealE

      Of course you can raise children on very little money. I was raised eating cereal some nights and my mom literally forgoing dinner all together. But does that mean children should be raised on little money when the father has tons to spare? Come on! I mean your point is ridiculous. Of course Thomas should be sharing his weath with his children! If $3000 is the appropriate split, great. If it’s 15k then he should be giving that.
      It is absurd that women give other women a hard time because they want the appropriate amount of father’s income to go to a child. If all you could afford was a Walmart crib, I’m sure your child still had a wonderful childhood, but if your ex was living in a mansion and driving fancy cars wouldn’t you want more for your children,whatever that may be?
      God as women, I really wish we would support other women. It’s like when women say oh that is so great that the father is involved in his child’s life. As if he deserves a trophy. When was the last time a woman said that about a mom?
      Kathryn doesn’t deserve his money but his children sure do!

      • Jan

        You bring up good points, RealE, however I am not by any means rich and my child gets either Kosher meat or fish for dinner almost every night. Its all about priorities and not making frivolous purchases on items such as cribs. I could afford a far more expensive crib but I had common sense and I chose to put the money elsewhere.
        Women should not be putting other women down, yet I have read such nasty things directed at Landon and dont forget… we dont know these people!! This is an edited, semi-scripted reality show that feeds situations to cast members to create fake drama. Remember the last fight scene on the finale between Kathryn and Landon? Those two could be in a soap opera, I wonder how many takes it took?
        I began watching this show two years ago becaue I thought it was a fun, light-hearted show about a group of friends living in a historical Southern city. Now, it has become just all about a gruesome custody battle between 2 cast members and screaming fights and commenters on blogs using the “c” word on people. Yeesh. This show is going down the tank just like SHahs of Sunset. Remember when it was just a fun show about Persian friends and the delicious Persian food and pool parties? Now its a nasty divorce and nearly all the cast members are prmoting some sort of “line” (Diamond water, hair extension, shoes ..?!) Lol. Im gonna have to go back to watching Law and Order:SVU.

      • Briannatozer16

        Jan please. Everyone on the show (and w brain) can agree to the fact Landon’s attacks on Kathryn are very personal and hit below the belt. That’s not women being mean like “her shoes are ugly” or “you can’t sit with us”. Landon is just a despicable person w a rotten core.. begond the fake drama.

      • JKR

        This.
        The point of child support is that your child is entitled to the same liftestyle the combined income of both parents would allow. That’s why there are standards calculated by income in each state.
        My ex is only ordered to pay $300/month because he claimed he was unemployed (translation:works under the table. See also:not like he pays it) And I’m not sure where you live Sarah, but $400 a month isn’t a pot to piss in raising a child these days. I pay that in just school/daycare in less than two weeks so I can work to support us. And that is outside of rent.
        Kathryn is not actually receiving that money. Thomas lives a lavish lifestyle, and his children are entitled to it. Just enough to survive is just not enough. They deserve it.
        Sorry, rant over.

      • SLM

        I agree with you completely JKR. I have a friend whose ex pays NOTHING to her for their two babies because he claims UNEMPLOYED status…but what he’s actually doing is working for cash in a cousin’s construction company off the books and making a pretty penny, only she can’t prove it. He has a leased SUV that is under his mom’s name and he “house-sits” in a 5 bedroom home with a pool for a single friend who is working out of the country right now. So he’s living high on the hog while she works double shifts. That’s not exactly what TRAV is doing, but he’s definitely gaming the system in the same vein. He wants to get full custody and pay her nothing and forget she ever existed. Then he can play daddy when he feels like it and when he wants to party or wh*re around, he can shuffle them off to the guest house with the nannies.

      • SLM

        You know what else I don’t like – he constantly says things like he pays her rent and he pays for the nannies, etc, but that’s a control mechanism. It’s all direct to these bills from him like Kathryn is a child who doesn’t deserve to have the actual payment to budget as she sees fit. It’s also all at his own discretion and voluntary, so how many times do you think he’s threatened to stop paying these costs as a way to bully her??!!

      • What truly gets me is that we watched this man-child called T-Rav promise Kathryn that she’d never have to worry about money or a roof over her head when she was pregnant with Baby #1. Now, she has two of his babies and he’s being a vindictive prick. Could it be because Kathryn has finally had enough of this asshole (it’s about time) and began dating someone else? Maybe. But he wasn’t giving her much from the beginning unless she waited around for his booty calls in between his other “girls” (gold-digging Landon being one of them). Maybe Kathryn can use the Bravo clip of Thomas making that promise? I don’t know how much legal weight it would hold. Kathryn could ask Craig to look it up for her. But he can’t tell his meal ticket girlfriend or any other of those buffoons–which is unlikely. She’s better off staying away from all of Thomas’s friends, unless she’s gets back on the show and gets paid to push their judgmental buttons.

  57. sarah

    Honestly the reason i say this is because I know a few single moms getting $400-$500 a month to supplement their incomes and there are no disagreements. It’s just difficult for me to wrap my head around anyone complaining about receiving $3-$4k a month in child support.

    • PopcornAndVodka

      Totally agree Sarah, and I wouldn’t have been getting free food from church back in the day if I’d received $3-$4K (or even the $600 I was supposed to get) but my ex-hubby didn’t have all the money T-Rav has. If you impregnate a woman twice (and live on a plantation), you should be paying up. Kathryn is really just trying to get what she rightfully should be getting.
      And the $3.1K is just the rent on the house, it’s not actually a support payment. I agree, she should move back home and just start getting the support from him.

      • HazelHickory

        Imo, it is best for children to have a full time mother. Children crave and deserve their mother’s time which is how children spell love – and it is the only way we can be sure they are protected. Women doing it all is a lie and a myth and we have generations of mal adapted kids trying to fill the void- as a result. $2000 per month goes nowhere. You can spend that just on food, drug store stuff, medical coverage, medical copayments and deductibles, lights/electric/gas water, phone, clothes, pharmaceuticals, and not to mention shrinks — and just for yourself – when you need to stay home bc your job is taking care of your children. That is without even mentioning rent. Now add in the rent, (at least $3000),and rent insurance, landscaping, and a car, and car insurance, and gas, and everything needed for 2 children.. so $10,000 for a guy like Thomas would be the low end of reasonable. It is expensive to live today. And a woman should be allowed to be a stay at home mother – for the sake of her children. Thomas likely spends a ton of money on recreational activities of all sorts, and two nannies – hired to take the babies away from their mommy – instead of paying to allow those babies to stay with their mommy without her having to be under terrible stress and allow those children to internalize a lifetime of beautiful memories with their mother. Thomas is a Disgusting POS and a bad man for doing this to Kathryn and two beautiful children who need their mother. $2100 is nothing.. it is strangulation money.

      • SLM

        Well put, HazelHickory! I think Thomas has never seen Kathryn as a human being, but rather a TOY. A doll he could parade around and use for fun and chuck aside when he was tired of her…just to pick her back up again when he was once more interested. He admits asking her to marry him SEVEN TIMES, and she accepted, only to later break the engagements on her. WHO DOES THAT?? That’s emotional abuse. It’s sadistic! Now he wants props for paying her rent and calling it some sort of child support, when really he does it just because his name is also on the lease. And he always repeatedly points out he’s NOT REQUIRED to give her anything under their current situation…I’m still confused how he can sue for custody and yet no judge has yet said “ok, but then here’s the portion of your income you have to pay now…” He wants to use his money to oppress and control her. It’s sick.

      • Margarett

        While I agree that $3000 per month is not a lot now days, when added to a salary it could certainly make a huge difference.

        If a woman chooses full time “mothering” as her career, does she actually need a nanny? (Before anyone “goes there”, feel free to disregard my opinion since I made the choice to have an out of the home career and did not have children.)

        Even in the ’60s that was a choice. I hope young women today are aware of the Importance of making that choice.

      • HazelHickory

        If a mother is a single mother without the physical, psychological and emotional support of a partner and spouse – yes – she may need a nanny as well to help out with two children – in today’s high pressure, speeding world. She may get sick, she may get burnt out, and she may need assistance in particular if she has no sisters or if her parents are older and not capable of being fully involved, or if she is trying to pursue an education so that she can go to work, perhaps part time, when both children are able to attend school full time. Children need lots of parental attention and supervision and guidance – in today’s society more than ever. Working in the corporate world is far easier than being a mother – as one is considered “worthwhile” and treated with respect for being a money maker and “strong.” Imo, being a devoted stay at home mother should be valued and acknowledged as being just as worthwhile – if not more so – because it is far more difficult and requires great selflessness and self-sacrifice.

      • Margarett

        HazelHickory, I am still not sure about the need for a nanny. I do think that hiring a housekeeper/maid for one or more days a week would leave any mother free to do the more important work. I raised a stepdaughter full time for about 12 years and that was my approach.

        I was surprised by your last point. Frankly, I thought surely women had already reached that point (being respected and valued as mothers.) We certainly tried in the 60s and 70s. Maybe the next generation will pick up the torch.

      • HazelHickory

        Unfortunately, women are not respected as just stay at home mothers – largely bc of the terrible state of the economy where both parents often have to work full time and even double time – with no one to watch the children. Women are expected to do it all – and surveys show that they have never been unhappier and their children are suffering. Raising a child in the slower pace and safer non Internet, not as drug infested environment of the 70’s – was a tranquil experience compared trying to raise healthy and happy children in today’s challenging, high pressure environment. From what I have observed – more support is required.

      • Margarett

        Perhaps it’s time for more “consciousness raising” meetings. It’s been nice discussing this with you.

        I am going to sign off before I have to eat cat food tacos in the WLS for being off topic!

        Good night and sweet dreams, Everyone!

    • tamaratattles

      ONCE MORE WITH FEELING. Thomas is on the lease for the house that Kathryn lives in. HE PAYS THE RENT ON THE HOUSE FROM HIS ACCOUNT. HE DOES NOT GIVE KATHRYN ANY ACTUAL MONEY. SHE HAS RECEIVED NO CHILD SUPPORT. THEY HAVE NO AGREEMENT. Thomas is on recently offering to pay $2500 a month. If the lease on that house comes up and he is in a bad place with Kathryn he will not renew the lease. That is the big issue.

      • Margarett

        Exactly! Kathryn and Thomas need to come to an agreement. Maybe a mediator could hep. How about Jason Bourne?

      • RealE

        I knew this and STILL responded to the comment from someone else on how 3k was so much to raise 2 kids on. I got caught up on the fact this commentor thinks it’s a gift that trav is helping at all… I should have said in response that he is not giving 3k and is giving no support. Amd then made my general comments.

        I’m glad you jumped in with this comment and fact again! … I now go to hang my head in embarrassment lol

  58. sarah

    Honestly i think Kathryn should take her kids and live with her parents. Dont they live on a big plantation? That way she could pocket that $3100 for stuff for the kids.

    • Dot

      The $3,100 are for the rent. I really doubt he’ll continue giving her that money if she goes back to her parents’ house.

      • Spot on. Thomas can’t give Kathryn the landlord’s money. And if she moves back in with her parents, she won’t see a dime. I stayed with my ex because I had two kids in diapers and I was younger than Kathryn. I can’t imagine working full-time with young babies when you’re basically a kid yourself without some type of support. I know women do it; I just don’t know how. While I waited for my kids to grow up, I worked part-time and squirreled money away for my big escape. Living with my parents was not an option. Far from it. However Kathryn got into this situation is now a moot point. She’s in it. If he wants to co-parent, then he needs to give her what he promised her: a house for her and the children and money to live on comfortably until she remarries. It’s not as if Thomas has another family to support or support is a burden. The guy after all is loaded.

      • SLM

        Of course, Thomas has to make sure he keeps as much as he can for himself to blow on escorts, drugs and alcohol (allegedly, and in my total personal opinion).

    • Shae

      If I recall, they live way out in the middle of nowhere which makes it difficult to shuttle them back and forth for time with Thomas and for running basic errands, etc. I think I remember Kathryn saying that, it’s remote and a bit of a hike. I can understand her wanting to live closer to town and her kids’ father.
      Though there is much about kathryn that irritates me, she is 100% right to demand adequate support from Thomas for the children. I get the impression Thomas wants her home taking care of them, not working, so then he should make sure to provide for them so she can do that. Life doesn’t need to be extravagant, but the kids’ needs should be met, they should have a roof over their heads and stable/reliable financial support. You want to mess around with a young girl and have two babies with her in some crazy, volatile romance? You will pay for the children you chose to have. It’s on both of them that they find themselves in this situation, and he is the breadwinner, so man up and take care of your kids.

      • SLM

        What I feel like he’s trying to do now is take the babies away from Kathryn altogether so he doesn’t need to pay her any support and he can just ride off into the sunset with them and an army of well paid nannies to do all the actual work for him. It’s pretty reprehensible.

      • HazelHickory

        Agree with you SLM, and thank you for pointing this out.

  59. sarah

    No baby will give a shit whether they are in a Wal-Mart crib or a fancy crib. lol.

  60. sarah

    I totally feel for Kathryn. I’m just saying that these fights for thousands of dollars a month is bizarre to regular folk

    • OmgOmg

      I think maybe you posted at same time as TT or maybe you don’t get it but it’s not thousands a month because he only co-signed a lease. when the lease is up then what? There is no court-awarded child support.
      In California, the cost of living is so out of whack you have no idea. It’s making lots of ppl consider fleeing the state. $3100 doesn’t even get you a 1 bedroom in Santa Monica. Most rents are $6-$9000.00 a month. I was told by a friend that private schools consider you a charity case here if you make $300-$400,000. Insane! I don’t know what Charleston is like but imagine in TRav’s circles it’s similar.

  61. Briannatozer16

    That whole situation seemed off. Almost as if Landon pissed Andy (I also think Andy was pissed Landon when on that trip w Trav) off at the reunion so much that they went back and added that clip to the end of the finale.. It seemed like it didn’t make the original cut. That might also explain why they barely touched on the subject (while filming the reunion) bc they weren’t aware it was going To air. The way they talked about it on the reunion was like one of those “during the break” convos they have. Same with the part about Thomas mentioning Landons “particular set of skills” that part seemed thrown into the the scnese in a weird edit and then they didn’t bring it up on the reunion bc it was added afterwards… Idk. Just a theory based on no evidence lol

    • SLM

      Even though I shudder to think about it, I still KIND OF want to know EXACTLY the particulars of Landon’s terribly unique skill set TRav referred to… I mean, is she a secret professional dominatrix or something? Double jointed?? Self taught acrobat and exotic dancer? BUT how good could any of it have been if he passed after a few samples??!! 🤔😂

  62. LFS

    I just watched and I’m pretty sure the word cunt came out of my mouth no less than 10 times. I CAN’T. FUCKING. DEAL. with Landon. I love that she smirks at the fact that Kathryn doesn’t have a job right now, when this bitch spent HER twenties as a trophy wife (not even a stay at home mom!!!!), and spends her days PAINTING and trying to conjur up some bullshit travel website (I DID enjoy her “friend” from NYC looking like he wanted to claw his eyes out at both their meetings this season though! HAHAHAHAHA! Fucking terrible). Biggest cunt ever.

  63. LaraM

    Thank you Tamara! Great Blog. Still pissed off with Landon’s inappropriate giggles, smirks and lack of defense bc she is awful. Still Team Kathryn. Whitney now seems to have to get his mutha in line on social media. Awful people, some of them….I agree with lime brain, and many others up thread of everything from Thomas, to the necklace/choker business with K, to the smirks and giggles and new “allegedly” news, Jennifer, and please put K Cooper Ray on the show!!!!

    • LaraM

      Not that mention, when Landon went off o. The Jeckyll Island (can’t make that more of an ironic name), the election, and NOBODY called her out for admitting to lying about Shep’s bday party, lack there of, invitation to Kathryn. Not with standing the production set up with the conversation in the nursery with invite to dinner. By the way, does Thomas have central air in any of the homes that he rents or owns? He’s always sweating. I mean, I know. Lived in Houston for 10 years, and Phoenix for 5, but A/C even with extra window units and C/A is sometimes needed. Plus, 25 years in KC. It’s humid, hot and he can afford such, allegedly. Lol

  64. LaraM

    New device. New spellings, keyboard. My apologies.

  65. Did NO ONE hear Kathryn when she stated that she takes anti-depressants?? Those can cause erratic behavior in people until the doses are adjusted correctly, and/or different meds are used to help with the depression if it isn’t responding to the meds a person may be on. IMO, Kathryn is still in the adjustment phase of her meds, and therefore acts erratically. Also it is widely known that many anti-depressants CAN cause a False-Positive on most drug tests, so even with the hair follicle test, if she’s been on different meds throughout this last year because her Dr.’s are trying to find what will help her, the OF COURSE she would test a False-Positive. That being said, I am TOTALLY #TeamKathryn on this. I feel as if these irrelevant cunty twatwaffles saying she failed are sorry excuses for human beings. (If one could even call them human beings, that is.)

    • hush

      Exactly! I agree completely that Kathryn is probably fighting a really tough battle against depression right now. Kudos to her for recognizing the issue and for taking anti-depressants. I know Postpartum Depression (PPD) can happen to a new mother anytime within 2 years after the birth of a child– and yes, taken together with her young age, and lack of emotional and financial support from Thomas, it could certainly explain the erratic behavior on her part. On top of that, the gaslighting Thomas, Landon, and Cameran et al have heaped upon her was really beyond the pale. “Tell me what I did to you, Kathryn?” Ugh, Landon is such a C U Next Tuesday. It’s all one big recipe for PPD.

      I blame Thomas for not thinking of his children’s well-being here. There are half a billion women on this planet. Would it have killed Thomas not to take Cunting Landon, of all people, on that Valentine’s Day trip to London in Kathryn’s place, while Kathryn stayed home with their newborn and toddler and was treated to Landon’s cruel Instagram pictures cuddling with Thomas? Jennifer was 100% right about how wrong Landon was to do that.

      It was truly galling how Landon and Thomas tried to get away wth telling such painfully obvious and contradictory lies on national TV. Their claim that “We ran into each other in London!” does not at all jibe with Thomas agreeing with Kathryn’s assertion that the London V-Day trip had been originally planned for him and Kathryn. Then Thomas and Landon turned around and said that they “decided to get separate rooms.” Which implies a pre-existing reservation. So we are all to believe they just, like coincidentally ran into each other in London AND just so happened to have planned to be staying in the exact same London hotel? Get outta here with these stupid, transparent lies! It insults everyone’s intelligence. Maybe that’s why Andy was finally done with Landon.

      • Parker Wyeth

        There is a bit over three and a half billion women on this planet.

      • How/why do a few of you think Andy is “over” Landamn? I hope it’s true, and he SHOULD toss her ass off the show, but what did I miss? I think she is “in” solidly and hot, like a rancid abscess.

    • HazelHickory

      Yes! to everything you said– especially “irrelevant cunty twatwaffles! Love it!

  66. OmgOmg

    I Haven’t watched it yet but am reading TT instead and it just makes me feel better to read the C word. Landon is so awful it’s shocking she’s so awful and such a liar. Whitneys hug was defeat. Their little scheme to get Kathryn off the show backfired miserably. He knows when he’s beat. Now he’s in damage control mode.
    I don’t get why legally TRav hasn’t been forced to pay child support? Isn’t that like mandatory?
    Oh my I am stunned by that wonderful revelation about Landon! Oh so fitting! I wonder if Patti knew? Probably not. Is it wrong to want Whitney and Patti to switch allegiances and see Landon go down in flames?
    Mostly I just want Kathryn to grow up and get herself healthy. To rise above. This is a shit show. I loved the first season but I’m not even watching part 2 the reunion. TT says exactly how I feel and it will spare me from yelling the C word at my TV. Thank you for letting me have some tea in the shade.

  67. OmgOmg

    Oh and I also love Cooper Ray and he should be on the show!

  68. “Giant GAPING cunt”

    Omg. Thank you, Tamara!
    There really is no better way to say it.

    Although, I did have a particularly crass friend years ago that used the word “Gash”? Lol!

    She should change the name of her website to “Dolphin Cunt”, she might get more visitors!

    I really just can’t with this bitch, or most of the others. Still pissed Andy didn’t invite K Cooper Ray. Pissed, not shocked. Because, Andy Cohen.

  69. SouthernCharmFan

    First, let me say that I absolutely love this show. Yes, it has evolved since the first season, but its still a huge addiction for me and I am so sad that we have to wait so long for the next season (if there is one).

    I do agree that Landon’s behavior at the reunion was mean, catty, annoying, and her comments were often unnecessary. So my views about her really shifted after watching the reunion. BUT, Kathryn does herself no favors. She acted very, very childish at the reunion “answering” for Landon, mocking her, and then telling Landon to “shut up”. Also, saying things like “irrelevance doesn’t exist in my brain.” What???? I don’t think she can blame “editing” for how bad she looked on the reunion. I think she would be best served by talking less and not falling into the back and forth with Landon. And, yes, I know she’s young, so I know she has some maturing to do…. But that would be a big first step.

    I think Landon is a lost cause. It seemed like even Whitney and Cameron were annoyed by her by the end of the reunion.

    • Margarett

      Gosh, I wish I had said this. You said just what I think, Southern Charm Fan. (It is the oldest trick in the book. And, as long as that men have made promises from “Of course I’ll respect you in the morning.” to “You bet we’ll get married as soon as….”)

  70. Thomas is the ass here. Cant blame kathryn for the oldest trick in the book and dude fell for it not once but twice. K is a garden tool. The mean girls are telling the truth about her though their own lives romantically are not ideal. Everybody knows a Shep and everybody knows whitney is a queen.

    • why is kathryn a hoe and none of the other girls are?

      • SLM

        Yes, briannatozer16! And why does Kathryn get shame called on her for being an adult who has been intimate with people, but TRav, Whitney and Shep just get a “boys will be boys..” ???? It wasn’t a trick. TRav has never claimed she said she was on birth control and wasn’t, he knew d*mn well they weren’t using anything and went ahead with the encounters anyway. I think K was in love and SHE fell for the oldest trick in the book – a grown man child d*ckhead feeding her a line of BS about how he was crazy for her and going to marry her, then ditched her when he was asked to live up to those promises!

      • spunky2015

        What’s the excuse for being duped with the 2nd kid? Kathryn needs to take responsibility for her actions too.

      • SLM

        I’m only saying she was duped into thinking he was sincere in his desire to marry her and make a family together that would stay together. They both knew they were risking pregnancies. I just think TRAV knew he had no intentions of marrying her, he just wanted the kids. I think K sincerely they were going to be together. Partly based on all those times he’s admitted to proposing.

      • If it’s irresponsible to have two children with the same man (and then point fingers about who is to blame and who tricked who) then it’s equally as irresponsible to marry and divorce once or more.

      • SLM

        Yes, well put again Briannatozer! I think K was young and in love and took what he was telling her as fact…I think TRav just didn’t care what he was saying and already knew he wasn’t going to follow through on any of his promises.

      • Exactly! Both Landon and Cam have this weird “Schoolgirl” behavior with Trav and it’s disturbing. He bucked up to fight them outside…but laugh/giggle about how he’s a bad a liar and “really wanted to sleep w Landon”.

        I also don’t understand why they ruthlessly accused Kathryn and Craig of having sex on a cold ass beach in the middle of the night and in the same breathe can’t figure out why it’s STINKY to go on a valentine’s day baecation and “randomly bump into” someone in LONDON then calling someone crazy and paranoid for thinking normally.

        Landon and Trav are def smashing and doing lots of pillow talk. I noticed a funny comment Landon left on Patti’s Instagram pic in April saying that her a Trav have decided to surround each other w love. hmmmmmmmm

      • SLM

        I think Landon’s been desperate to put her hooks into a man with money again and TRav looked like a good mark to her for sure. I totally think they were together.

      • HazelHickory

        So true briannatozer! It was annoying how Landon kept acting as if she and Thomas are a couple – and then she pointedly abstained from drinking at the end- Do you think she is pregnant?

      • I doubt she’s pregnant. She seems so messed up in the head that she would get more joy out of the rumors and reactions of people thinking shes pregnant then if she found out she was really pregnant.

  71. Greenwood

    I think Landon (can hardly stand to type that name) made a display of refusing drinks and refusing to toast, while broadcasting that annoying grin…because she wanted to make people THINK that she might be pregnant with Thomas’ baby. She did it to (1) drive Kathryn insane and (2) drum up drama for next season and insure her spot on the show. She is one sneaky, vile piece of work. She will hang onto this show like the black death, until her last bony, wart-infested finger loses its grip.

  72. HazelHickory

    Just thinking back over everything, it appears to me to be a case of misery loving company – and a desire for money. It just seems that JD, Whitney, etc, furiously interfered to stop Thomas from marrying Kathryn – bc they wanted him to stay their wealthy frat boy – lets drink and (allegedly) do all sorts of other stuff around town buddy – forever. Patty wanted Thomas to be there for her baby boy Whitney and both Patty and Cameran wanted to be important girl in Thomas’ life (with Thomas having no real wife and a nuclear family -as competition). Also – I guess if Thomas married Kathryn – the show would be a bore with the two stars as a settled down married couple – bc let’s face it – the rest of that crowd is a lackluster, insipid snooze-fest. So there is big motivation there too for Whitney and for the whole cast (but Shep who does not need the money) not to want Thomas and Kathryn to get married. Actually- in Whitney and Patty’s mind – how dare Kathryn come on the show and interfere with their show in this way? It seems that they may have wanted to squash the marriage in any way possible for that reason alone. Poor blind Thomas.. or maybe “doubting” Thomas – doubting his relationship with Kathryn and constantly doubting himself – so always listening to the wrong people. As for Landon – she just looks absolutely desperate for a wealthy guy, meal ticket – and she appeared to be (at least on camera) doing everything possible to ostracize Kathryn and to destroy Kathryn’s relationship with Thomas – and, collaterally, thereby Landon was also destroying any chance for those babies to grow up with their mommy and daddy in a loving nuclear family. If Thomas married Kathryn – Kathryn would likely have none of his constant frat boy behavior. I think someone even mentioned this earlier in the show – that she would take him away from his friends and a good time – or words to that effect. Of course – some women are so “socially superior” (ie cold blooded) that, once they have some wealthy man’s money, they hold dinner parties, and do not care how many people their husband beds, or what he does, so long as they have their death grip on his bank accounts. Actually, for so many women, the sooner the guy implodes – the better, bc they do not care about him at all – just his money. There is no real love there. But Kathryn – did (does?) love Thomas, had two children with him, and would care, and she would want a loving nuclear family that would last forever in which to raise her children, and fidelity, with no ex-porn guys hanging around in Thomas’ life. Landon seemed very accepting of exporn guy. It seems that, with Landon – Thomas could have several cakes and eat them all – and Thomas, Whitney and Patti, and JD, and exporn guy – could still all be very happy together. And as for Thomas having custody 1/2 time of Kathryn’s children? Hey — that wont cramp anyone’s style or activities – they have two nannies that Thomas contantly offloads them on – and live in a guest house in the back and separate from Thomas’ main house! The kids will be NO PROBLEM with a Landon/Thomas arrangement. Because – let’s face it – Thomas is the biggest baby of them all and Landon can be his nanny in the main house. Very British – all these nannies. They did, after all, start their relationship with Thomas in Landon in London (allegedly) . Yes?

    • Brilliant. Strong hypotheses. Strongest, most poignant point is that Kathryn DOES/did love Thomas and would have pressured for a strong, nuclear family. This is, I believe, incontrovertible, in spite of LC’s classlessly uncouth remark about Kathryn “using her womb to get on TV”. I could say more about who is a lady and who is (desperately)not but I make myself sick merely conceptualizing L.

      P.S. A tangent: Does Shep REALLY not see what a ruthless hag Landon is? He either covers for her or is the nth degree of a gentleman.

      • HazelHickory

        I think that Shep does see, but that Shep clings to his old-line, trust fund code of personal social coduct – the keep your nose clean, stay above the fray, sound reasonable, don’t take sides rules found in the yacht club book of etiquette – used for navigating choppy waters. -;) I used to like Shep, but I have come to find his dating ambivalence to be very odd, despite his rationalization that “he just is so afraid of hurting someone.” After his lunch with his mother, where he stated that “he was just so afraid of bringing home someone who would not fit in with them at Palm Beach and at their various county clubs,” I cannot help but sense a strange sort of snobbery underneath it all? Maybe Shep is simply forelorn that Patricia is too old for him? Cheap shot, I know, but it just seems as if no one is good enough for Shep. Shep then took umbrage at Kathryn for saying she did not really trust any of the main cast. But why would she? Who has really gone to bat for her but K Cooper Ray? I just wish Shep would man-up, choose a side and stick up for Kathryn. To mollify Shep – Kathryn said that she trusted him “to a point.” I am not surprised, bc with Shep that point is usually somewhere very close to the middle. He should be careful though, because all that fence straddling could leave a person splintered – at the age of 40!

      • Finally, someone agreeing with so few others that Shep is NOT the golden boy. It’s a safe role for him and he lives with and in it like a turtle.
        Regarding his “sex life”, not dating life, I think there is more there than meets the untrained eye. I wouldn’t want to be the one to dig for it, however. God help the almost-good-enough girl who is “seamless” enough to try.
        Kathryn knows that Shep would not be the one to throw her the life preserver if she were drowning with a or this crowd around. As much as he seems to enjoy them, he has no balls!

      • HazelHickory

        Thanks, drlauren4346!

    • Great, inclusive theory – and nauseating. The acting out of pathologies among the main characters on this shitshow is appallingly flagrant. Pat, Cameron, Landamn, even Craig and Shep in their cautious “which way is the wind blowing” way, turn me off. You don’t think the last two (especially) don’t know what a raggedy ruthless hag Landamn is? They know and say and do nothing. Shep, everyone’s darling, references the “high road” every fifteen minutes. His high road is interpersonal neutrality – he takes NO stand on anything. Craig? Well, he’s trying, poor (limited) kid but his positions are show-offs, not from the heart.
      Whitney seems to have mellowed and somehow, I don’t think being Whitney is easy. I think he should be cut some slack. The ancillary characters – except for JD (UGH!!) are just doing their thing. Most importantly, they do not have a veritable vicious agenda ‘re Kathryn.

      Bully TV of the southern genre. Full of hypocrites with drawls (exception, Prickly Pat from NY…ETC.).

    • Thomas? “He” goes without saying. An ignorant ass utterly unfettered by his team of amoral wannabes.

  73. Kate Gates

    The delay in OZ is bullishit. We just got the final tonight.

    Landon. That shitty excuse of a human got off easy. I read earlier (dedicated fan TT) that there are whispers she’s a married man’s answer to date night. Please. Please write the blind you were destined to write. She is the reality TV version of SWF and there are some things that she does (jokes/ hateful feelings aside) that make me concerned for Kathryn’s welfare. Does no one remember when she encouraged Kathryn to stay and enjoy herself on the island, only to turn around in this years reunion and claim its Kathryn’s fault that Thomas failed because she didn’t return?!??

    Cameron. How fucking dare she tell another woman they are paronoid. All this simple bitch has to say is that she believes two seasoned liars and therefore their word is gold for everyone to see she’s a truely disturbed human. Legit hope she is fired. How fucking dare she tell another woman they are reactionary. I hope you feel the fall of your classist attack and I hope you feel disgrace.

    Shep. He can do he. But fuck him for saying Kathryn was to blame for the Whitney incident. Just because he gets money and sex on a silver platter, doesn’t mean he is the moral authority on a young mother who is having a breakdown. His other Bridget Jones bs is only embarrassing for him. He could have had public opinion. He chose the role of believing he was above the shit because he stayed friends with everyone. Well. Smarty pants. All you’ve proven is that you will not stand up for a woman because you are friends with the person that is trying to break them down.

    Whitney. You’re a genius. Keep doing what makes you happy. I’ll happily retract my imagination when I have something on you. I have nothing. You’re kind and evil and if I am true to myself; I wish we were best friends. I think you should walk back you shit on Kathryn.

    Kathryn. I think your issue is that your intelligence reaches too far past your experience. I hope you find your calling and I think Thomas is abusive. His payment of rent and not to you is an unhealthy action of control.

    Thomas. Stop being the cunt that is allegedly trying to destroy the mother of your children. You know you are allegedly doing the wrong thing. You know you need to allegedly stop being the completely controlling and abusive

    JD is a germ that threw a vulnerable young mother under the bus to get air time for a product. He needs to own what he did.

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