The Tea About Patricia Altschul

Southern Charm Patricia
So it seems that y’all do want to know all the dirt on Patricia from Southern Charm. There is a boatload of it. I hesitated to call your attention to it because she is “the star” of this season and everyone seems to love her.  She is a great character on the show, but it is all an act just like she takes on a new persona with each husband until it no longer suits her, this is her Southern Charm persona.  I think you would all like the show more if you didn’t read what I am about to post.
So consider not reading and further.
First of all neither Patricia or Whitney are southern let alone from Charleston.  Whitney technically is southern I suppose as he was born in DC and raised in Virginia until his mother married her fourth elderly husband and move to Manhattan.  Patricia’s marriages have all been for money and she enjoys an elderly man. It’s not a bad job if you can get it I suppose.

Southern Charm Patrica and Pat
There are numerous websites with information about Patricia. I have chosen to post a comment from someone named Suzanne Kent Cooke who also makes her living marrying old men. Unfortunately, she was disinherited from her man’s will as were his other wives. Their daughter however received a nice trust fund of $ 1 million that has grown to substantially. That daughter actually sued the trust when she was 19 because she was not happy with a mere $50K a year and could not wait until 21 for it to become $100K a year.  Anyway, that is the source I chose to use for this story in sort of a “takes one to know one” since. Both Patricia and Suzanne have  many pieces of salacious gossip going on about them  on the Internet should you be interested.

Here is a comment Suzanne made on a small site called OK Here is the Situation. It’s my favorite of all the stories.  Take of it what you will.  The theme of all the stories remain the same. Patricia is a Damn Yankee posing on TV as a Charleston socialite. She’s only lived there for about five years or so. It’s all a charade.

By Suzanne Kent Cooke (originally posted in a comment section here)

I’d like to set the record straight regarding Patricia Altschul. She was born in Sarasota, Florida. She lived in Falls Church, Virginia with her husband Lon Hayes Smith, her son Whitney’s father. “Southerly” the Altschul estate on Long Island, was featured in a past issue of Architectual Digest. One of rooms photographed was the Library. Over the fireplace hung a portrait of Pocohantas. In the article Patricia boasted to Aileen Miele, (the author of the piece,) that she was a descendant of the Native American princess. This is a BOLD FACED LIE! She’d stolen the painting, as well as the bed where Robert E Lee was born. She also absconded with a number of silouettes which hang in the Charleston house.

It did not stop here. She also managed to steal furniture, art and silver. Amongst all the other things, she also took a brooch pin which contains a lock of hair from the baby Robert E Lee. You see, her third husband, Ed FLEMING was a direct descendant of both Pocohantas and Robert E Lee. The locket of hair had belonged to Ed’s grandmother. Patricia had worn it to the Sporting Library in Middleburg, Va., claiming that the confederate general was her ancestor. Ed had been out of the country when Patricia wiped him out!

When he found out, he was devastated. Realizing all of his family heirlooms were gone, he appealed to Patricia, who was now with Arthur Altschul, her fourth husband. When she refused, he and his lawyer proposed that she keep the possessions for the duration of her life and upon her death they resort back to the FLEMING family. She wouldn’t hear of it!

In reality, Patricia Altschul, as GRAND as she’d like to believe she is, she’s nothing more than a poseur, who happened to have married well. According to the Architectual Digest featuring her Charleston mansion, it states that the house is filled with family heirlooms. This is true, just not her family.

More outrage by the other gold digger:

Re: “Southern Charm Recap S2 E4: Making a mockery of raising the roof

Wait until the truth comes out about this woman Pat, as she was known in Washington DC . She now goes by the name of ” Patrica”, who is pretending to be so “GRANDIOSE” and is just a woman from a very meager background, who grew up in Sarasota Florida.
She has really pulled a fast one when she plotted and planned her REINVENTION , but now the truth will be told, about a sociopathic , egomaniac who should have gone to ” Hollywood”.
I wonder what BRAVO will think of this total imposter???

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Posted by Suzanne Kent Cooke on April 8, 2015 at 11:15 PM

Re: “The crew is back in an extended trailer for the second season of Southern Charm

If anyone really knew who the real Pat Altschul really was their hair would stand up. She has reinvented her whole background, ask anyone from Washington DC , when she was being kept by a married man by the name of Allan Novak. She had her first husband( father of Whitney disappear from the Internet site.)Whitney uses the name Sudler as his middle name. Pat didn’t want Whitney’s father’s name to be known .She hired one of the top Publist in NYC to put her in a light that is so far from the truth. She has put all the people that give her credibility on her payroll. It is a running joke in Washington DC , for all those in the know. Just look into one of her largest fabrications when she told everyone she was a direct descendent of the ” Lee’s of Viginia. Stealing all of the Lee’s family bequeaths. But that story is for another day and time.
She is a total ” Sociopath”. SOURCE

It is true that Whitney’s Father has been wiped from the Internet…

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Posted by Suzanne Kent Cooke on March 19, 2015 at 12:05 AM

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268 responses to “The Tea About Patricia Altschul

  1. Pip

    I heart you! Thank you for posting this. Let the comments roll…

  2. Urethra Franklin

    OMFG this hot tea not only burned my tongue, but it’s caffeinated too.

  3. Dolores

    My, my, my now that’s some interesting reading. Husband collecting and heirloom stealing. Those are unusual hobbies. Allegedly.

    • Chris

      Please find more scoop. Whitney and T Rav both creep me out. Not what I want when looking for a successful, classy guy. ,

      • How could you possible need more tea on either of them? It’s pretty much everywhere…

      • How could you possible need more tea on either of them? It’s pretty much everywhere…

      • jen

        Whitney & T Rav are losers. Sorry but they are. I hope they find hapiness in life but they are grown men that don’t want to grow up and now on a tv show. This show is great but they are just riding this fifteen minutes of fame till it runs out. The other cast Members appear to have things going on in life besides just b2ing on a show. I would love the tea on what Pat did to piss off Suzanne. Now that is some tea I would love to know.

      • MariAnne

        Sometimes, T-Rav looks like the unfortunate product of inbreeding. He should be on a porch, somewhere, playing banjo. Whitless is outright skeevy and shifty looking.

  4. cawoman23

    OMG she should be nominated for an Emmy. I total bought her “southern belle” persona. I don’t know how people who steal family heirlooms/ mementos can look at themselves in the mirror. I wonder why he didn’t sue for their return? Thanks for posting this info. I will still enjoy her on screen, I’m sure. Well sort of. Definitely not the part where she encourages putting her shoes on a silver tray. That’s just odd because I don’t picture any woman allowing bacteria-laden shoe soles on a silver serving tray!

    • brenda boyiddle

      I AM from the south (Tennessee) and never bought all that phoney baloney suthen’ aristocracy BS. Pat’s son comes off as gay.

      • Charley

        I’m from the midwest and cant say I bought it either! She comes across as a child playing at what she thinks a high-class southern belle would be. Watched a Gone with the Wind a few too many times?? With all her ringing of the silver bell, her full butler who appears to do everything (maybe he’s doing her too??). Nothing about what she or her son does on air rings quite true. They both seem very mean spirited, especially when it comes to their claims of seeing right through Katherine, calling her a strumpet, gold-digger, childish, and trash. I’d say it was pretty childish of Patrica NOT to invite only the one person (part of the cast) to her “fund raiser”; an adult would have invited Katherine and been gracious. Thank you Tamaratattles for reporting this. She has bothered me since last season and guess I don’t have very good skills because I only found good things about her until today when I googled “Patricia from southern charm is a bitch” And this article came up. LOL I don’t necessarily like Katherine, but she’s a 23 year old single mom who will do a lot of maturing in the next few years, on the the other hand Patricia is 60? 70? something bully and her son isn’t any better.

      • Tennessee, while southern, isn’t very sophisticated, for the most part. Sorry!

      • Eliza

        Yeah , And his German Girl/ Boy friend. She looks like a guy and has a body of a 12 yr old boy ugh…… Tgats his only way of coming out. Well Alrighty Then…..

      • Angelica

        So what if he was gay?

  5. Wow. Great tea! Can’t say it’s all that shocking as everything about her SCREAMS poser. I wasn’t aware that ppl liked her. REALLY? I am enjoying the show but Patricia and all the men on the show literally make my skin crawl. But yet I watch… The bravo paradox

    • Lawstangel

      Those are fighting words for “southerners.” They are quite territorial (aren’t we all?) I had a boyfriend back in the day, that was stationed in GA, he told me that when we met people just to say I was from “LA” which meant “Lower Alabama” NOT Los Angeles. He also said that Texas was NOT the south….

      • Dee Mart

        Pretty sure we Texans consider ourselves Southerners. :)

      • Kinsey

        That’s interesting. …not sure who made your old boyfriend spokesmen for Southerners but he was probably one of those people who didn’t know WTH he was talking about and everyone around him knew it. They just laughed at him behind his back. Btw, LA is not Lower Alabama, it’s Louisiana. LA is another name for Lower Alabama but I don’t know anyone who says “LA” when describing their home in South Alabama or anywhere else in Alabama. I should know. Your boyfriend was an idiot. And Texas IS part of the South. All Confederate States were and are part of the South. Do yourself a favor and stop repeating moronic crap your old boyfriend used to say.

      • He was, in fact, correct. Texas is not the south, we don’t claim them and they surely don’t claim the rest of us who are from the South. They are their own special entity.

    • O.O

      I didn’t know she had fans either .

      • Maybe this will help. Being “southern” is complicated.

        There’s Southern, geographically speaking and also southern historically speaking.

        Then there is the good old Southern gentry (also referred to as Southern aristocracy). Old money, old manners, old traditions, old family connections, that type of thing. Not much of this is left around, but thank God there is some and these folks tend to quietly stick together. They aren’t noisy, they aren’t braggarts, they look and act like normal, well mannered folks. They have good manners and kind hearts and are benevolent to those less fortunate and to animals. Especially Labradors.

        Then, there is country. And redneck. And first generation moneyed country and redneck…. The people who talk about sweet tea and cotillions and country clubs and like to act like they are Southern Gentry. A good rule of thumb is that if somebody is telling you that they are Southern Gentry, they probably just wish that they were.

        Marrying into an old southern family definitely counts. If you can bring the manners and mannerisms to rage game, you’ve made it.

        Say all you want to about Patricia, but she definitely counts as Southern gentry. And has the beds and portraits and manners to back it up.

  6. Dolores

    She’s from Florida so she’s kind of Southern.

    • ​Florida is not a southern state. Period.

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      • jelley

        Amen. Florida is in no way Southern. No one there even gas southern accents. I don’t even consider Virginia to be the South, but no one listens to me.

      • Xanadude

        Neither is Texas. Both are geographically Southern but culturally not

      • ​Is this the same Texas that wants to secede every ten years or so?

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      • This thread is totally hijacked. Lol. At least we’re not discussing driving times..yet

      • peachteachr

        Right, Florida is a piece of NY that broke off and got stuck on the end of Ga. :)

      • Oh, yes we are! I am from a Northwest Florida family which has had land in the state since before Territory on my dad’s side. My mom’s side came down during the Civil War. I am as Southern as cane syrup, grits, corn bread and cotillions.

      • I beg to differ. Pensacola is my hometown in Northwestern FL which is VERY Southern. It’s nothing like central or south Florida and has many many historical sites and a rich history (originally founded in 1559). I am a Southerner!

      • ​It is rather unfortunate that the panhandle is attached to Florida. We can’t hold you responsible for that.

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      • The Panhandle is the best part and most deeply Southern.

      • Xanadude

        Yes, that Texas. I’d say its more similar to Arizona than Louisiana.

      • Oh wait a minute my babies were born in Athens GA, Gainesville FL and my baby girl was born under an azalea bush during Mardi Gras in Moblile AL. Anyhow Clayton is a 5th generation born Floridian. My husband would argue Fl is a southern state that is filled with Yankees; claiming to be Floridians. I can tell “who” he is speaking with by his accent. I agree that south FL is beyond redemption. My daughter had a heavy LA accent which is going away, when we go back to AL, she is accused of being a Yankee and here they just love how southern she sounds.

      • ​OMG Itwasjulie CLUTCH ME TO YOUR BOSOM! I thought I had lost you forever!

        I need a moment.

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      • It’s south of the Mason and Dixon line so it is DEFINITELY the South…. Florida that is.

      • ​You sound Jewish.

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      • Blaize2680

        Florida may be geographically in the South, but culturally it’s not fully Southern. The FL panhandle as well as Jacksonville and north of it is culturally Southern, but go south of that and you’ll find its either transplants/ retirees from mostly NY, NJ or another northern states or people of Latin descent, which most definitely are not culturally Southern. It’s probably the only state where the further south you go, the less Southern it is.

      • Navymommy

        @jelley must I remind you that the capital of the Confederacy was Richmond, VA? You cannot get more southern than a Virginian! I am Northern by birth, Southern by the grace of God and have lived here for 40 years. I am a Southern gal and so is PA. Just because Northern Virginia has been invaded by all manner of people, does not make it not below the Mason-Dixon Line.

      • Sherri

        As one who was born and raised in Florida, I beg to differ with jelley regarding the comment ‘no one there even has Southern accents’…you obviously have not been to Florida…except maybe Orlando and Miami. Florida is riddled with rural, ‘Southern’ folks. Not sure where you got your info. And as far as South…that refert to south of the Mason-Dixon line.

      • Virginia not Southern??? Richmond, Virginia was the capital of the south during the succession and Robert E. Lee was born and raised in Virginia. He is a big part of our history and I have been to his tomb in Lexington at VMI where my brother attended college. We are drenched in southern culture and history. However, let’s clarify that Patricia lived in NOVA or Northern Virginia and the rest of us do not claim that area as southern. Too many damn Yankees and Washington. :)

    • Nicole

      Florida is not “southern”…

      • If we ran everyone out of California who wasn’t born and raised here, the state would be almost population-less. This includes my kin.

      • Look it up people. Northern Florida is very Southern. Central and Southern FL are very “Northern” as in NYC Northern. We make fun of the rest of the state being so un-southern. Please don’t lump us in with the rest of the state of Florida and please don’t say we are not Southern.

        Thank you, a five-generation native

      • Welcome, fellow Southern Sister :)

      • Thanks, catazure. Where are you from in

      • Thanks, catazure. Where are you from in NW FL???

      • ​Of course it isn’t Nicole. But if idiots say grass is purple, I mean. There is not point in continuously telling them it is green. Especially if they are Yankees. I mean, bless their hearts, their thoughts on the south are irrelevant.

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      • love2hatebravo

        Good Lord. Who are these moron Lower Alabaman panhandlers, chiming in that central and southwestern FL aren’t “southern”? Any of you geniuses ever been to FL towns like Sanford, Deland, Palatka, Labelled, Arcadia, Moorehaven, Everglades City, Williston Waldo, Crescent City, on and on and on…

        Yes, half the state is New Yankee Hotel Mickey Beach, but the other half have accents so buttery and slow that I never even knew existed until moving to Gainesville for college and trying to date native floridian men whose deep fried accents I literally couldn’t understand.

        We won’t even discuss my sorority sisters stripping down to their bikinis and swimming in animal troughs on the front yard of the agricultural fraternity on 13th street.

      • ​God Lord. We have Dawg Food commenting on TT. le sigh.

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      • love2hatebravo

        BTW just want to clarify I have never/ will never watch this show, it sounds idiotic.

      • love2hatebravo

        Dawg Food?

      • ​Yes. Let the big Dawg Eat!

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      • love2hatebravo

        Never mind, I get it. I was a GG, but only for the free tickets in the SEZ, and I actually only went to that school because my family refused to help me financially, I had a 100% BF award, and at the time it was the highest ranked 4 year school in the SUS. So, I don’t really have much allegiance to my alma mater, and Dawg Food pokes are lost on me. :)

      • love2hatebravo

        It actually got a lot of little scholarships- one to the pretty little college in Decatur where they filmed Screamed 2. And would’ve loved it there, but again, my parents declined to contribute what the fafsa dictated I would need to go there, hence my lowly status.

      • ​I totally relate to that my parents REFUSED to disclose their income on any forms I could have used to apply for scholarships or pell grants, etc. I took out loans too.eventually in my mid twenties they quietly paid off my balance. I think my mother had no faith that I would graduate.

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      • Sjw

        Read the book, ” Land Rememberd” if you don’t think Fl is southern.

    • Kinsey

      I pray to God no one is actually listening to Xanadude! What a moron! I find it comical that people are posting about Texas and Florida as though they know the first thing about either place. You people clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. This may shock some of you, “Einstein’s” but there are many parts to Texas and Florida and it’s highly doubtful that any of you have seen even 1/4 of these states..Miami and Austin don’t count. You sound so ignorant claiming to know anything about these places. So, according to your theory there aren’t any Rednecks or Country-type people in New York state? Afterall, New York is only made up of New Yorkers City, right? California can’t possibly have citizens who don’t enjoy the beach or who aren’t celebrity-obsessed. That sounds about as probable as your theories on Texas and Florida. Jelley and Xanadude should find a hobby that entails things they actually know something about. I’m glad most people aren’t as clueless and presumptuous as some of you.

  7. Tara

    Damn! Damn! That was the best Tea! I am not a huge Pat fan. There is just something about her and Whitney that irk me. Maybe it’s bc they are fake!
    I could never be on a reality show like this. If Pat spoke of me like she does Kathryn, I would tell everyone who would listen this info. Maybe she doesn’t bc slimey Whit is an EP. I don’t have that much self control or class, I would snap!

  8. Gingersnap

    Da-Yum. I read, so I am liable for whatever damages I have incurred to my fantasy. Patricia the Poser…she has the whole Southern act down to a science and the bitch is GOOD! If there was ever a time to use the adage ‘curiosity killed the cat’ it’s right now. Shit.

    • Victoria Lucille

      I’m thinking she has learned to become whatever persona will get her the most attention and/or $$$ possible. She did manage to dig enough gold from 4 rich hubbies to keep her boas fluffy & her shoes on silver trays handled by her butlers when she can reach her trusty silver bell. This post made me choke on my Dom….or my Barefoot Pinot Grigio!

  9. Dolores

    I wonder if the silver tray her shoes were on, are a stolen heirloom.

  10. Dolores

    Is a stolen heirloom. Excuse my poor English.

  11. Dolores

    Is there a particular website she uses to find said rich old men? Geriatriclovers.com?

  12. Mari

    The one thing you can’t be in Charleston is a poser. They smell bad blood line like sharks smell chum. Makes sense now that you don’t see too many old named Charlestonians, you could count Thomas Ravanel but he’s a felon so he’s out of the loop any way.

    • eastjames

      It reminds me of that Golden Girls episode where Blanche tries to get into the ‘Daughters of the Confederacy’ group and they crucify her when they find out her great grandmother was a Jew from NY. Ridiculous!

      • ​Not ridiculous at all. My sister joined DAR and I am eligible but never bothered. I’m not old enough for that crowd. YET.

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    • The line from Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil is so true. The second question they ask in Birmingham is “what church do you attend”, in Charleston “what is your mother’s maiden name” and in Savannah “what do you drink? Hence, poor but a Calhoun trumps rich posers like Patricia and Whitney.

      • ​Kathryn is certainly not poor. She is just in her twenties and making poor decisions. Like we all did.

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      • Kim from SC

        I agree, Calhoun is a VERY known name all over the state of South Carolina. From the coast to the capital all the way to Clemson(right outside of Anderson,seems good breeding ground for good girls! Glad I’m here.lol)

      • I’ve been at many a party in Pensacola when asked these questions by some old dowager. Blood line is everything to old Southerners and I had the wrong type. Bwa ha ha ha!

      • Elle

        We have a similar quote here in the Northeast, credited to Mark Twain IMMS “In Boston they ask, How much does he know? In New York they ask, How much is he worth? In Philadelphia they ask, Who were his parents?”

  13. It’s funny when I first saw her and her “home,” my first thought was I didn’t know people like her still existed. Reminded me of old money and how people “acted” in Hemingway’s time. Even then it was artificial but indicative of the time. And just while watching the last episode, I thought, I wonder what the truth is about Patricia and Whitney, and here we are. Thank you TT because you answered questions I had in my head. Timely Tea!!

    • Pip

      Totally! I went to college in the south and I met some RICH fucking people. Old money, oil money, etc… No ones parents put on that ridiculous kind of show. She is way too over-the-top to be authentic.

      • ​Oh there are plenty of women who actually have that life… she’s just mimicking it. With some minor major errors like the shoes on the tray. The shoes should have been changed in the dressing room and never have been on a service tray.

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      • Shoes on a tray was hilarious. So over the top. But she said they are excruciating, so she probably didn’t want to walk down the stairs in them. She couldn’t carry them down herself, she might have spilled her drink!
        If he’d simply handed them to her, she’d get her hands dirty, so what other option did the poor woman have? :)

      • Is there any chance the over the top butlers are only “in service” when the cameras are rolling?

      • I’d say that is a fantastic chance. Also Whitney really lives in LA, not with his mother, and only lives in Charleston for filming.​

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      • Double-Posers! What a family!

        Whitney living in LA explains the girlfriend from the scrapbooks that nobody has ever seen or heard of on the show…

    • Skeeter

      Must be her time is up because an alarm went off in me watching the last episode!

    • Victoria Lucille

      True ‘old money’ doesn’t act that way and would never put on a show like that. Of all the people on the show, Shep is the only one who seems like he’s really old money. He has the education & the manners, yet he seems approachable & normal, like someone who’s so used to having money that it doesn’t matter.

      • vivaladiva831

        Exactly. Reminds me of John Kennedy. EXTREMELY well read, with a charismatic, approachable boyish charm.

  14. Kate62

    So Patricia’s not just a fame whore? Figures, I so wanted her to be different.

  15. Pat said in season one that she wasn’t originally from Charleston, but had been living in NY. She knew she wasn’t embraced by old Charleston, but loved the place anyway.
    As for stealing heirlooms and lying about it? That takes some giant fucking balls, and makes me laugh. I just don’t understand why her ex wouldn’t take her to court to get them back. Maybe Mrs. Cooke is not giving us all the details.
    I love her “character” on Southern Charm. I enjoy Whitney, too. Such a weasly little Dastardly Whiplash.

    • Pip

      @Katherine-
      I LOVE your descriptions of Whitney!
      “A weasly little Dastardly Whiplash”.

      And didn’t you say in the other thread that you envision him sleeping in a coffin or hanging upside down in the cellar? (Something to that effect). Made me laugh!

      • Nancy

        @Pip

        That was me. Whitney, with his plastered-to-the-head hair and those enormous ears, sallow face, just reminded me of a show from the 1960s called “Dark Shadows”, a daytime soap about a New England family who sported a vampire relative named Barnabas Collins.

      • I find him soooo disturbing to look at. He’s trying to counteract his aging bloated face with A hip hairstyle but it’s always glistening with oil.. Hes a greasy mess..

    • Josie

      I love that description of Whitney too. Both of them seem like slippery grifters to me. Is my gaydar off or is Whitney gay? I always think he is and he is angry about it because Patricia would never accept it.

      Patricia is entertaining but you could tell she is nouveau riche by some of the things she does like the silver tray nonsense. I am surprised she is liked too.

      Off topic. Does Ravenel really think he has a chance in politics with his background and being on a reality show?

      • I thought he was too! He reminds me of Chuck Bass from gossip girl in every way!

      • S

        Wow…I never liked Whitney something very sleazy and sneaky about him. I liked Patricia though I will say she puts on one helluva act!! I must admit I always got the feeling that there is a lot more to Whitney & Patricia than meets the eye…TT is always spot on! If you can find good tea on the net just imagine what those people have covered up would be yummy tea with extra sugar!!!!?

      • Josie: I also think Whitney is gay and…in love with T-Rav. However, none of the guys on Southern Charm are my idea of marriage material regardless of their wealth and lineage.

      • Victoria Lucille

        His remarks about Kathryn sound like a jealous woman talking about her competition.
        If he is gay, why would Patricia not accept it? I doubt she cares about anything beyond finding another old, rich man to marry. She’s savvy enough to marry well lots, so she should suspect something about her son by now.

  16. Dolores

    What is Florida considered?

  17. Dolores

    I’ll still watch it. Patricia’s acting is very good.

  18. Twilly

    This doesn’t ruin the show for me at all. In fact I find it funny that she’s kind of a hustler and a bit of a con. She had to expect this to be revealed at some point. I respect her no-fucks-given attitude!

  19. Dolores

    I’m from Texas, originally. People say it’s not western or southern. It is actually one of the west South Central States, along with Oklahoma, Arkansas , Louisiana. Florida is part of the South Atlantic states?

    • How can you be from Texas and not know it’s a southern state? What is wrong with you people?​

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      • TAMARA

        Texas is definetly southern and I have the accent to prove it!!

      • Xanadude

        Texas is an entirely different state of mind that is definitely not Southern. More Old West-y than Southern.
        I live about a block from the JFK memorial. And its gotten to the point where I don’t blink when the Open Carry Advocates march in front of it.

      • Xanadude

        Do not compare Texans to Oklahomans. although we DO go to OK and LA to gamble. Frequently. Church lets out on Sunday and the highways are packed with cars and buses going to the casinos in OK.

    • Angel(?)

      Ok here’s the deal on Texas. Texas was the seventh state to succeed and Florida was the third, Georgia was the fifth, and South Carolina the first. Deep south states are the ones in the cotton belt. Only the panhandle of Florida is part of the cotton belt. The cotton belt ends in Texas at IH-35, everything east of 35 is deep south. Florida lost it’s southern standing when central and south Florida culturally change due to emigrant impacts. Give Texas a few more years and it will change too. Sorry Tamara, I’m sure I broke some rules. I’ll sit in the corner and review the rules!

      • Urethra Franklin

        I always thought Texas was considered more Mexico than Southern.

      • ​Well, maybe now.

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      • Angel(?)

        Remember, Texas is a big state. Let a Texan explain lol. The panhandle wants to succeed. Dallas and north, hell that’s Oklahoma anyway. West Texas is some foreign region no one goes to except for El Paso. El Paso and all areas south of Corpus Christi (the Rio grande valley area) is Mexico. North of Corpus and East of Austin (Houston area) is the good ol’ boy south. Central Texas and the Hill country is Texas or Germany. Austin is it’s own animal, the only liberal hang out. Now that I have pissed off any Texan out there…

      • JMB

        So I live in Mexico? I think not.

      • ​Si !

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      • Angel(?)

        Well if you live south of me then you have feel the Mexican influx b/c I do here!

      • I’m a born and bred Dallas girl and lumping us in with Oklahoma are “fightin’ words”! :)

      • Renee Miller

        Cotton doesn’t end at I 35!
        Lubbock is one of the largest producers in the world. And it’s 6 hours drive from DFW.

      • Angel(?)

        @ Xanadude you prove my point! You folks in Dallas go to Oklahoma to gamble while we here on the gulf coast go to Lake Charles or Couschatta, Louisiana to gamble. We are southern! I’m just teasing you.

    • Victoria Lucille

      Whoa!! Louisiana is most definitely a Southern state. We are not “west South Central” unless you’re trying to make some new sports division. You Texans can argue about being Southern or not, but leave Louisiana out of it! We are, and always have been, very proudly Southern, Darlin’

      • Victoria Lucille

        BH Wannabe, the debate captured enough of your attention to get a comment. If I thought a debate wasn’t that great, I sure as Hell wouldn’t waste my time & energy commenting on it. Thank you for your attention, sugar. & bless your heart!

    • I was born in Texas and still have family there. While you could argue at least east Texas shares certain southern traits, the rest is most assuredly not southern. It is Texas.

  20. spk

    Wow Tea-Time! Their mother/son act always seemed over the top, in some ways. Being on a reality show seems to fit the personality of someone who likes to “overhype”. However, I’ll take a dressing-drink, thank you.

    The Robert E Lee – Pocahontas connection was fascinating to research. They really do have so much about the original colonies genealogical trees on-line.

  21. jen

    Love this tea. I kind of hate Patricia but love her also…..

  22. tobaccorhoda

    Florida is a southern state. Just because it’s full of Yankees now doesn’t alter its history. It seceded on the same day as Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana and Texas.

    Also, who was Patricia’s 4th husband? The first was Whitney’s father, then Ed Fleming, and Aschult.

    Not saying she’s not an alleycat at heart, but she’s a southern one.

    • ​Your yankee ass opinion is meaningless. You have no voice in what is southern and what is not. You may have a seat now.

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      • tobaccorhoda

        I don’t think I care for a seat, but bless your heart for offering. I was born in the southern state of Florida and raised in Mobile Alabama, where they’d consider Atlanta perilously close to the Mason Dixon.

      • As I mentioned dear, you are a yankee. I’m sorry that God did not grace you with southern heritage. I know it is hard. But you must learn to accept it. ​

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      • Urethra Franklin

        Ooooh I love a good shady “bless your heart” offering.

      • Psylocke

        Florida is as much a shithole as the rest of the south – I don’t see why it should get special privileges by being excluded.

      • ​Hey! Until you were trending on Twitter the other day, I had no name what your name was! Lol.

        And Florida is a Yankee shithole not a southern one.

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      • Oh no, Florida is a world unto itself. Definitely not “Southern”. I lived in Sarasota for 5 years. It’s more Yankee than Southern, with a hefty-dose of Michigan and other snow-birds thrown in for exasperation.

      • jen

        Florida has a super shady history. Psylocke your comment is very true.

    • eastjames

      Psylocke why do you think the South is a shithole? Most of the states are beautiful and there’s good food and good people. I wish the politics were different but all in all I’m pretty proud to be Southern. I’m just curios as to what makes you feel that way. Ps I’m a little concerned about Florida since every time something insane and awful happens it seems like it’s in Fla.

      • Most of the stupid shit happens in South Florida; anything below Orlando and sometimes from Ocala and below. I am a proud Florida Democrat who wishes the dumbasses who voted twice for Rick Scott would leave the Villages and other Tea Party hives and move back to where they came from.

      • eastjames

        Well even the republicans have got to be sick of the tea party. Those people are nut jobs. Even though I’m a bleeding heart liberal, I can still relate to some conservative views. But the tea party? I just can’t make sense of it.

  23. So glad you posted this. I can’t stand that woman & the comments she makes about Kathryn. I found myself in a similar situation & had to deal with the same type of comments. I feel for that girl.

  24. Tara

    I know who Patricia reminds me of, Sante Kimes ( I am already going to hell I am sure,so It OK) The whole crazy Mom and son act!

    • That’s a bit of an extreme comparison don’t ya think. Sante Kimes being a convicted psychopatic serial killer, as well as her son.

      • Tara

        I know! I am extreme! I just thought of the Mary Tyler Moore movie for some reason. I don’t think she is a murderer just the dynamic – ugg never mind – I f ed up again – today! I apologize.

      • Pip

        Oh Tara- no biggee. I say stupid shit here all the time. I don’t even know if I’m a Yankee! Although, I just found out that Minnesota is indeed a Yankee state. I thought so. And yes… Go ahead and shame me for my Yankee roots. I still love all you southern belles!

      • Kate62

        @Tara, just blame saying stupid shit on being menopausal, even if you’re not it’s good practice .

      • Tara

        @katie62 I wish! I can blame it on PMS though and dropping the fwb;)

    • I was going to say the exact same thing, @tara, but for the first time read the comments to see if anyone else thought so :)

      Exactly, tho. Crazy, greedy, con artist.

      • Tara

        Thank you, I was wondering if maybe I was demented and just a mean girl. Actually, someone has already called me that bc I agreed with TT. I guess that is odd, being her blog and all.

      • Perhaps it I due to my less than pleasant disposition…​

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  25. tobaccorhoda

    Oh Jesus Christ on a cracker.

    • Tara

      :( I know, I am a terrible person.

      • BH Wannabe

        Nobody is thinking about you that much! Someone already said the Sante thing so calm down.

      • ​You do realize, BH Wannabee that when you come back to a thread days later to act like the TT hall monitor that we have all move on to other stories, right?

        I’m noticing a trend in your VOLUMINIOUS comments that they are all correcting people and calling people retards. I think I can handle that on my own and you can be freed up to discuss the actual TOPICS.

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  26. After I took a minute to digest that Patricia is a first degree poser, I realized all these people on reality TV are posers in one way or the other, and I wade through it. That’s not what bothers me. What bothers me is that she (allegedly) STOLE a bunch of shit that wasn’t hers…and has used these family heirlooms to perpetuate the myth that she’s something she isn’t. How incredibly tacky.

    The upside is that I haven’t really had a villain to hate on regarding Southern Charms, but now I’ve been given adequate ammunition and will be keeping my powder dry (I’m feeling all kind of Civil War right now.) People don’t get to steal a families treasured heirlooms and get away with it unscathed, at least not in my neck of the woods. BIG fucking no-no.

    • You mean The War of Northern Aggression, dear.​

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    • Twilly

      And such rich, historically important heirlooms! That’s crazy! Why didn’t the family do more about this? I’m a Yankee of the first degree being from Massachusetts, Tamara. Don’t hold it against me too much but I am a proud Bostonian

    • Cythere

      “People don’t get to steal a families treasured heirlooms and get away with it unscathed…”
      I hope you’re right! Some _true_ Southerners seem to have a very special attachment to family heirlooms and to the past.
      I’m a Virginian, as were my parents. My mother’s mother’s family has been in south west Va. since the early 18th c.
      Maybe Tamara will say if this is her experience, too: The hero of the South, more than Washington or any other Southerner. is Robert E.Lee. Pocahontas is mythic.
      Maybe this yucky woman can be shamed into returning the heirlooms to her ex. If I were he (or is it ‘him’?) I’d sue.

      • Cheychey

        I beg to differ when people say Va. is not a southern state. I know being on the southern border many may assume it can go either way. I assure you we are rich with southern heritage and traditions. I grew up on southern food. My moms family has a huge farm that has been passed down for generations. Her grandparents and paerents lived completely farm to table. The men of the family were true hard working southern gentlemen with charm and grit. My great grandmother raised 11 kids who helped farm and raise animals. She held quilting bees in her seeing room and made corn bread for every meal including breakfast in her huge cast iron skillet. For me it doesn’t get more southern than that.

      • ​I don’t think anyone ever said Virginia was not a southern state. I was questioning Whitney being born in DC and raised for a bit in Virginia. He’s not southern. His parents at not southern. He lives in fucking California for fucks sake.

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      • ​Robert E Lee’s Birthday (I think) is a state holiday here and Confederate Memorial Day is for sure. Bet they don’t do that in Floriduh.

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      • Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas recognize Robert E Lee Day on the same day as MLK day as a state holiday. So leave Floriduh alone. Although I will admit my palm and crescent moon bracelet gets me plenty of are you muslim? comments from yankees here in FL.

      • ​You post like a yankee.

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      • My husband said to tell you one Dawg to another, that Georgia wasn’t southern enough for his family so they moved to Florida. He also added Tallahassee was the only capital not to fall to the damned Yankees. His great great granddaddy was at Appomatox with the 2nd FL regiment. He is really defensive about you saying Florida isn’t southern. It isn’t FL’s fault that there are 19 million people running around calling themselves Floridians. I give him grief because of Florida too, my heart is still in SC.

      • ​I loved Tallahassee when I lived there. Extreme Northern Florida is southern, but that does not make Florida a southern state. FSU Alums and students do not even DRESS for the game. They all made fun of me for wearing appropriate attire when I went to all the games with season ticket holders. They had plenty of money and wore T-SHIRTS to the games!

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      • I have no idea why we are talking about Barry Manilow in this post. I must have missed something.​

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    • Victoria Lucille

      That did make me really dislike her tons, and I agree she and Whitney are the villains on the show, but I do give her points for the way she (or her butlers) treats her dogs. She’s an awful caricature of what lots of people think a Southern woman is, but at least she sees that her dogs are cared for. It might be fun to see if her money goes to Whit or to her dogs when something happens!

      • OMG I remember the first time I went to a football game in FL and everyone was dressed in shorts and tanks. I love you for many reasons but UGA and Clemson truly tug at my heart. PS I was a bartender at Tiger Town and God knows there are not many bars in Clemson. I also worked at Peking Chinese and Mama’ s Pizza in Athens. Do you remember Charlie Williams and just hoping to go there when your parents visited?

      • ​I remember being everso embarrassed for the FSU crowd. And they found me an oddity in my summer dresses.

        With the exception of returning for a Clemson game with my sister once, I was very young when I visited Clemson. I don’t think we visited Tiger Town, though I am familiar. My sister was a warden about drinking until later in life when she was diagnosed with cancer. Then she went through a phase of drinking and sinning. Don’t most people do it the other way?

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  27. Dolores

    I don’t care I am geographically challenged don’t know what the South is but Miss Tamara always has the best tea!

  28. Dolores

    I usually miss all the commenting because of the time difference.

  29. jen

    Her act is very much like Karen from will & Grace.

  30. jen

    I am also from Sarasota. It is southwest Florida. People consider Florida the south. I grew up there.

    • People from Sarasota can consider Florida a box of fried chicken if they want. Their considerations on what is Southern and what is not are of no value. ​

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      • Mrs Smith

        TT you are cracking me up!

        Keep on! :)

      • ​Why, this is no laughing matter!

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      • jen

        I do not know. I do know Florida is full of bugs and humid all of the time so I prefer where I live now and fried chicken sounds so good. Damn breastfeeding cravings. I read a food and crave it like crazy

      • love2hatebravo

        EXACTLY. Sarasota is part of the 50% of FL that is NOT in “the South”. It’s Boca West. Now, drive east to Myakka, Wauchula or Arcadia, and hell yeah, you’re back in the South.

  31. ScrappieONE

    Well this all makes sense now on why she so loves Thomas. He’s just like her. I KNEW IT.

  32. ScrappieONE

    Well this all makes sense now why she supports Thomas. He’s just like her. I knew something was rotten with this woman.

  33. kristina

    Stealing someone’s family heirlooms that is so low. Now I understand why you stated that she hated Kathryn for her lineage.

  34. Urethra Franklin

    Thomas’s voice, mannerisms, style, and professional & douchey disposition are exactly like my ex, and it drives me crazy with lust. Other than that I want to throat punch him.

  35. Greenwood

    As a South Carolinian (born in Greenwood, of course), the name Calhoun makes me want to put my hand over my heart. Kathryn’s got it, and no matter how much she screws up, her name kings everybody else in sight. Including Ravenel and that ugly bridge (that modern monster is a sad replacement for the beautiful old Grace bridge). Patricia and her gay son are jealous of Kathryn’s (honest) pedigree, and they need to just sit the hell down.

    • Urethra Franklin

      Bitch why are you using “gay son” as if it was supposed to be pejorative?

      • Greenwood

        Ha, you know I wasn’t saying it that way, Urethra. He should be honest and stop pretending, and people would respect that! It makes them both (Patricia and Whitney) look like they are embarrassed about it! Nobody should be embarrassed. No one cares if he is gay or straight. They just don’t like the phoney!

      • Greenwood

        For example, look at Cooper Ray, the new breakout star of the show. He’s not pretending, and everybody loves him. I want to see him in his own spinoff show. He’s not even a South Carolinian, but he tells the truth about that, so nobody even cares. I loved it when he screeched back at that whiney new girl – gave her some of her own medicine.

      • tobaccorhoda

        Sic him, UF. I’m busy trying to teach the uppity cunt satchel that runs this blog some southern manners. It’s a thankless task, but we southerners are nothing if not tireless. Lol

      • ​You mean southerner wanna be? Did you ever live in a southern state? And Hawaii doesn’t count either.

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    • ​OMG Greenwood! I spent a year teaching at Lander! Actually I was more of a Tutorial Lab Manager for nursing students and such and taught an adjunct class or two. I LOVE Greenwood!

      Once I took my students to Greenville for a field trip to a poetry reading a colleague was having. It was SRO when we arrived so I left with a car full of gals to head back home. Then we saw the WELCOME TO NORTH CAROLINA sign…. ROFLMAO. We went the wrong direction on the highway.

      We were all grumpy the next day. :) It really was a great year though.

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  36. jen

    Is there any tea on whitney’s girlfriend??

  37. Hahahah pretty interesting blast!! I’ve never watched this show it seems way over the top with only one hardworking person lol! Thought that guy was gay and hiding it! That Susan Kent Cooke held nothing back! She has an interesting back story her damn self and isn’t much different from pat!! All greedy, money grubbing leeches!

  38. Drinkthediamondwater

    I grew up in the DC area. Suzanne Kent Cooke is the third ex-wife of long deceased billionaire Jack Kent Cooke, former owner of the Washington Redskins. After only being married a few months, she got pregnant and insisted on having her daughter against his wishes and he divorced her and she got basically notta in the divorce settlement. Of course, she was half his age. He was a tyrant and nobody dared cross him. He refused to even meet his daughter until she was three years old.

    • jen

      I just researched Suzanne Kent Cooke. Scandle. Perhaps Patricia really pissed off Ms. Cooke. Oh to be a fly on the wall for that tea, they both sound like shamless gold diggers.

    • Lol they tell a totally different story of course! Did you find out about her daughter not being able to continue college because the $50000 year from the trust wasn’t enough to live on so they sued the trust?? These people are insane and so greedy!

      • jen

        He sounds like a nasty old man. He didn’t even call Suzanne by her real name and demanded she have abortions. Odd she couldn’t just slip a condom on his saggy …….

      • Bwahahahaha I dunno maybe they fall off if they are old, wrinkly and flaccid?

    • ​Yep! He divorced her right away for not getting an abortion. She was disinherited and removed from control of the spawn’s trust. At age 19 she fought the trust for more money than the trust was set up for. Because a 19 year old could not manage on50K a year. which increased to 100K at 21 and like 250K at 30 and then 8% of the estate each year thereafter. Not good enough for the little brat.

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      • Drinkthediamondwater

        Interesting that some 20-odd years later, Ms. Suzanne KENT Cooke still hasn’t let loose of that full married name when she was only married to him for a few months. It was a scandal of biblical proportions, second only to his fourth wife, Marilyn Chalmers (sp?) . . .another gold digger who rode down the streets of Georgetown with her lover on the hood or maybe she was on his hood, whatever. The tea was always sooooo delicious when reading about these fools. Jack Kent Cooke was a certifiable narcissistic ogre that everyone was terrified of. In his Will, it was stipulated that his two grown sons could not maintain ownership of the Redskins and that they HAD to sell the team. That’s how Dan Snyder, current owner, was able to buy the team. Jack was a real prick. He probably deserved gold diggers.

    • I’m so glad to see another Washingtonian in here! I well remember the Jack Kent Cooke drama in the late 80’s – early 90’s. It was a real life soap-opera much more entertaining than anything on TV! First, the 2-month marriage to Suzanne, just long enough for her to not abort her *cough* cash register *cough* baby, then Cooke’s marriage, divorce, and re-marriage to spicy Bolivian Marlene Chalmers!

      My favorite episode? Marlene’s drunken ride through Georgetown with a man on the hood of her Jaguar! Pure gold!

      If these allegations about Mrs. Altshul are indeed true, TT is right in saying it’s a “takes one to know one” situation, because it is certainly pot meeting kettle!

      • ​I read a story online about the Redskins dude. Below there were links to all the parts of his will. I didn’t click gut the titles were funny enough.

        It was broken down by beneficiaries. And under nearly all the wives that out lived him there was a link to where they were disinherited and the year it happened. He disinherited both of his eldest sons I believe at some point. It was all very Falcon Crest.

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  39. Trashbox

    My now-Mormon sister traced our trashbox trailer park family to Col. Bolling and then Pocahontas. And there’s a Bolling DNA test to elimate those “blue” Bollings. Snap. Now, I feel all fancy and Southern too and need a butler. Is that all it takes? Maybe I should go buy a painting of Pocahontas.

    Also, if you like this show Tamara, I’m in. Should I catch up on old ones?

    • Victoria Lucille

      Trashbox (it really felt wrong to type that, by the way), you should watch the first season of Southern Charm immediately!! It’s absolutely fabulous fun!

  40. Angel

    When TT teased us about Pat, I did my own digging. TT found the best scoop by far, of course. Pat sure must have some kind of skills to land the rich guys. I hope being Altschul’s 4th wife, and only married 5 or 6 years, that she didn’t get his entire fortune. Porsha should ask her for pointers.

    This woman has no grounds to criticize Kathryn in any way. Thomas wanted a child and he got one. I dislike Whitney immensely, just something about him was repulsive to me from first look. I love the commenter’s comparison to Dark Shadows. I understand Whitney has a model girlfriend in England, the one Pat was showing off in the scrap book to her butler. Those butlers may be her only “friends” her age, that is why she decided she needed to buy the second one. This is a big side job for models, posing as the giflfriend to someone that, for whatever reason, doesn’t want to actually have a real relationship with a woman. Even Barry Manilow has finally marrried his husband, who didn’t know…

    I still like Pat’s humor, as I said yesterday, I would not want to be in her presence.

    • Wait what about barry manilow now?

      • Angel

        He married his boyfriend and, I think, manager, of 30 or so years recently.

      • Yeah I just looked it up!! Well look at that!! Honestly that explains so much I’ve always suspected! Well good for him! People should love whomever they want or is it whoever?

      • Pip

        I’m a loud and proud Fanilow!!! So nerdy and uncool, but I don’t even care! Judge away, people!

      • No judgement here!! There are many fans! It’s not uncool at all!! Not really from my era but I also never was a Michael Jackson fan either lol! Fanilow!! Like that! Toni Braxton and just about everyone who breathes mostly are fans lol! Saw him on her show when she serenaded him!

      • Angel

        I am a Barry Manilow fan as well. Just sorry he did not think we liked him enough to accept his preference until now. Most people knew or suspected he preferred males 25 years ago.

      • I understand why he did it! It was a different time! What I’m lost on is why his husband/manager didn’t want to marry because he feared he would lose fans! Is his money and career more important after all this time?

  41. Complacentcomplicit

    Patricia and Whitney’s nasty sneering insults and constant need to feel superior give them away. As I understand it, people raised in what they consider to be a Southern traditional way do not mock or harshly criticize others so directly. They are really grating this season. Knowing this gossip makes Patricua’s judging of Kathryn look horribly hypocritical. She’s a bitch and her son has no class either. The classiest person on the show is Shep.

    • hannahkingrose

      Complacentcomplicit, you are exactly right. Many traditional southern women criticize or mock others with a sweet smile on their faces and begin their comments with “Well Bless Their Heart”. If they are really good they can tell someone off or even give them a fuck you without them realizing it until 10 minutes after they’ve walked away lol. They cover the remarks with so much sugar that the person being spoken to doesn’t notice how hateful they just were to them. Then again, there are those who just say what they feel with no sugar coating at all. There’s an art to it. Patricia needs to work on that if she really wants to make her acting more believable. She may prefer to make people think she is so rich she just doesn’t care what people think. From what TT has said about all the things she has stolen, allegedly that may be the case lol.

      • Tara

        Bless your heart = fuck off
        at least in NC it does. We learn that in manners class, along with how to set a 6 course dinner table for 8 ppl; )

      • ​Bless your heart does not mean fuck off. That is a yankee myth. Bless your hear means bless your heart 90% of the time.

        And then there is that 10% where you are gossiping with someone and you trash them and follow up with Bless her heart… to make it polite.

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      • hannahkingrose

        TT it’s kind of like that saying…Southerners will tell you off, slap the mess out of you and then bring you a casserole. Lmao. We’re nothing if not hospitable.

      • I do make a mean green bean casserole. But I usually only take them to funerals or the families of people who have had a death in the family. I’d be happy to make a casserole for Miss Patti. I think she would love my squash casserole, but it’s a bit to early for a good squash casserole.​

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  42. jen

    I found another comment post by Ms. Cooke. She really does not like Patricia. She called her a sociopath and claimed she was a mistress to a married man at some point. Cat fight

  43. Aunt Sis

    Whitney’s oily hair drives me crazy! I’m w/you SATINBLISS He’s a greasy mess !!! YIKES!!! Don’t these people take a final look @ themselves before walking onto the set for filming????? TOO MUCH LOL

  44. Jade

    I suspect that if there was full disclosure on TR, he is nothing more than the family funding behind his real estate company. He does not exhibit the insight, knowledge, commitment, determination or drive to have built anything to be a success.

  45. Pip

    This thread was all over the place tonight! OMG- I am just dying laughing. It went from Patricia and Whitney to North vs. South to closet Fanillows.
    I love this place. God! I’m still laughing!

  46. kk bella

    I’d like to know the real truth on the ‘RE Lee painting, and its origins. Because if it is authentic and really belonged to hubby, coupled with the way people feel about Lee, there is no way in hell Partricia would still be in possession – and still be living to tell the tale. Also, Whitney is not gay. Effeminate and affected, but not gay.

  47. Hilarious! Can’t stand the sight of that bratty son of hers but somehow this info makes me love her “character” even more: it’s like something out of a Southern Gothic novel. Thank you for the laugh that started my day! Pocohantas & Lee, oh Pat, LOL!

  48. Thank you, TT! I drank this tea with my pinky fingers out.

    • Victoria Lucille

      I drank it with my perfect mint julep while Butler #6 fanned me with a palm leaf picked by Gardener #2. Oh, & with my pinky out, of course!!

  49. Cheychey

    TT I was referring to Jelley who said Va. is not a southern state. I totally got what you were saying about him growing up here.

  50. LisaLisaDiva

    You know…I hate when people tell you about the South and they aren’t from the South. A Yankee patiently (Yeah..she tried it) tried to tell me specifically the difference Mid-town, Downtown, and the Buckhead areas of Atlanta.

    I told her rookie ass Yankee to get lost on one of the Peachtree streets and run head first into a dogwood tree. ATL born & raised hunni! BTW, North Florida, just across the GA border is considered southern, the rest is a some kind of hybrid northern reboot.

  51. Anastasia_Beave

    I love this. If I’m gonna play a part on a TV show, I’d want it to be a rich Southern lady with a gin carrying butler. I’m not hating on Pat.
    My favorite part was “I wonder what Bravo will think of this total imposter”. Andy loves a phony!! He loves an over the top character.

    • ​The fact that she is like 70 years old makes it even better. I enjoy her on the show. As someone said, it’s not like much of any of this crap is real.

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      • Anastasia_Beave

        Exactly. None of it’s real, and it would be a lot more entertaining for all of us if we realized that (said the girl who feels irrational rage towards Kim Richards).

  52. I was introduced to people at a social events, (married a successful man, new to town but partnered with a couple of established families)and they wanted to know my maiden name and what my parents did. A lot of “vetting” to see if you are worth their time to get to know.It was in the 70’s and they still were trying to put people in the right “caste.”

  53. Why on earth would anyone want to brag that they are from the South? Who wants nice weather, southern cooking, manners, wit, southern hospitality….SMH.

  54. historybuff

    Wow, consider the source of these grossly inaccurate comments — one of the most notorious personalities in the history of Washington society.

    The poster, Suzanne Kent Cooke, was 31 when she married 74-year-old Jack Kent Cooke, owner of the Washington Redskins. They were married for 73 days. Suzanne got pregnant so she could work around their prenuptial agreement by suing him up for child support, even though she had promised not to get pregnant. She sued for $15 million!!

    Then Suzanne Elizabeth Martin became “Suzanne Kent Cooke” — have you ever heard of a woman taking her husband’s last name AND his middle name — just so everyone would know WHICH Cooke she had been briefly married to. Taking about being a poseur.

    Every fact Suzanne cites about Pat Altschul is wrong as far as I know. The property settlement with Ed Fleming was negotiated by their respective lawyers and settled in the divorce agreement. It’s none of Suzanne “Kent Cooke”‘s business.

    Mrs. Altschul was one of the most respected dealers in American painting when she was younger. She has been elected to serious boards like the Metropolitan Museum, Rockefeller Brothers Fund (Hudson River Trust), and the Gibbs Museum.

    Pat has enormous credibility, unlike “Suzanne Kent Cooke” who is a hussy and fake “socialite.”

    • Victoria Lucille

      I would prefer watching her on a show about art, if she has to be on a reality show at all. I don’t doubt that she has done something other than marrying well, but she & her son are ridiculous on this show. If she is as respected as you say, then I wish she had just stayed off of this show.

  55. vivaladiva831

    Doesn’t surprise me. I enjoyed her first season, but this season she and Whitney both come off as gigantic pretentious bitches. So sorry about the “sis and deseace” let :( . Thanks for taking one for the team. She is about as far a representation of southern class and style as I could imagine. I guess she forgot the part about being “genteel.”

    • ​Between the two of us, why am I the only one who is #unbothered? Do she have any idea how much hate mail and Twitter people saying terrible untrue things about me? I don’t give a rat’s ass.

      It seems to me that old southern truism “A hit dog will howl” is in full effect. She has more money than I will ever see in my life, a gorgeous home in CHS, and a TV show that we all love to watch her on and she is on the Internet googling herself like fucking Jill Zarin and sending out cease and desist letters threatening some fat chick in ATL who sits on the couch all day and blogs about people on reality shows? I am COMPLETELY thrilled to be noticed by her as I think she plays her wannabe Charleston money role well for the most part. But bless her heart she just needs to call in the butler for another gin martini and do HER. ALL. DAY. LONG. The fact that she knows that I exist makes her look quite sad.

      On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:

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  56. Nadine Zachary(@deenie61)

    What a wonderful bit of info to brighten an otherwise crappy day! I love it, I love it! I guess this means “Patricia” is really just as “pedestrian and banal” as most of us. She used those exact words to describe a job in a restaurant.. As one who worked in that type of pedestrian and banal line of employment we had many colorful terms for people who acted like Patricia. I admit she ads some humor to the show, mostly because her behavior is so over the top but I can only stomach so much “better than everyone else” attitude. Whitney tries to act above everyone else, but comes off more like a beady eyed rat who just can’t get out of momma’s maze and do something with his life besides play director, something he’s not nearly as good at as he believes. LMAO

    • Elle

      Did you see the episode in which Whitney talked about his movie was released internationally? If you check it out on IMDB, you can see that it opened in one theater and had box office takings of less than $4,000.

  57. dan tonis

    Whitney 47s (pats son )new girl Larissa Marolt knows how to lie as well … in NYC for 3 years she was a serious party girl … sniff … and well known Lesbian who “tolerated” men to escort her around for appearances and pay her bills. Though only 22 … she has studied Pats history and has Whitney whining on Southern Charm how he misses her and wants her to live with him. She will out Pat Dey in manipulation and Marry a man to get Pats money. No prenuptial agreements for her and she is beautiful enough to get Whitney to go along and desperate for grandkids pat will get used for money as she desrerves.

  58. ConDescendMe

    Anyone who knew Pat and Whitney from their DC days knows the hilarity behind the show’s theme. Their television show is less factual, and more plotted, crafted, & engineered than an episode of The Simpsons. UN-Reality Television at its best. Pat’s net-worth was SO in the red she had to f**k old man Altschul to stay afloat. Truth, Fact, and Reality.

  59. Mila7

    Patricia is a repulsive ‘common strumpet.’ White trash with money is still white trash.

  60. As a close personal friend of both Patricia & Whitney, I’d like to say that the only “trash” in these comments are from the tacky people posting hearsay gossip that is 1) slanderous lies at best and 2) hideously untrue at worst. Patricia has never claimed to be from a “wealthy background.” If you came to Charleston and met her you’d see that she’s one of the kindest and most generous women you’d ever meet. She’s on numerous charity boards and has gone out of her way to make sure that she gives back to the community. My favorite story of spending time with Patricia was when we went to Whole Foods shortly after the show premiered. She had a lady come up to her and ask “You’re that lady from that show right?” To which she replied, “Yes. That would be me.” The woman then said “You’re much prettier in person.” Patricia smiled and thanked her and then got me to grab an employee. “When that woman gets to the front with her order, I don’t care how much it is, I want to pay for it all. Just ring it up and tell her it’s taken care of.” That’s the Patricia I know. She has a good heart and you people need to realize that if you were suddenly famous, a lot of folks could cast judgements on things you did in your past. As the saying goes, “Ye with no sin cast the first stone.”

    • Victoria Lucille

      I do admire the way she treats her dogs, & I hope she does the charity work you say she does. Here’s my issue with your comment: first, people commenting on this page aren’t ‘tacky’ since they are posting opinions about someone who is on a TV show. I would think any adult who agrees to appear on a reality show would expect tons of gossip/comments/criticism. Second, I really don’t think any comments on a blog could be ‘slanderous’ in any way. Again, everyone on this show welcomed gossip & criticism when they signed the contract & cashed the checks!

    • Britt

      I agree..she doesnt seem like a snob..she has her opinions like all of us & she has the balls to say what she thinks..even on the show she is working or participating for a charity or cause most of the time..i would love to sit down & have a martini & converstation with her…Also she has ha B.A. & Master’s degree in Art History so she is actually quite intelligent Herr father was a doctor so i doubt that she was ever “white trash”..im not saying there arent rude, ignorant assholes who have money but she isnt one of them.

  61. Deanna

    There are times I like Patricia but they are certainly few and far between the times I dislike her. For someone desperately trying to come across as classy and sophisticated Patricia needs to stop the schoolyard shenanigans.

    • Sspring

      Thanks for the tea on Pat Altschul. I’m grew up in Middle and she is quite the legend there or should I say scandal. It would be hard to find someone that remembers her in a good way.My mother told me about a woman that wormed her way into society stole a mans entire family history along with mementos and than slithered back out of town.I was shocked to see this woman on TV as part of a reality show called Southern Charm. Unfortunately there is nothing charming about Pat Fleming…and so on and so forth. Put the silver bell down make your own dirty very dirty martini yourself and crawl back to rock you came out from under. Stop picking on young woman that dump your ugly creepy man child of a son and go hang out with people your own age, which on second thought you probably don’t have. An old friend from college who has settled in Charleston with her husband told me that when the show first aired she went out into to town wanting people to run up and kiss the hem of her caftan. Everyone that saw her pretended not to notice her because they cannot stand this woman.Her arrogance is over the top for most Charleston’s who wishes she would also go away and stop claiming Charleston as home.

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