Apollo Nida’s “Right Hand Bitch,” Gayla St. Julien Sentenced

RHOA Mexi-Loco

I hope my cellie has a purty mouf.

Tamara Tattles can confirm that Apollo Nida’s days as a free man are rapidly dwindling. Yesterday, Gayla St. Julien took a plea deal for five years and one month in prison.

According to the AJC’s Rodney Ho, “In U.S. District Court Wednesday, Nida’s co-conspirator Gayla St. Julien pled guilty to conspiracy to commit mail, wire and bank fraud and aggravated identity theft, resulting in a 61-month prison sentence. St. Julien worked with Nida from 2009 until 2013.”

Additionally, the complaint against Nida was amended  on Monday to add additional criminal charges and Nida waived his right to an indictment.

Suddenly, this seems like a plea to Apollo's cell mate.

Suddenly, this seems like a plea to Apollo’s cell mate.

Essentially my understanding of what happened on Monday was that Apollo appeared in court to waive his right to indictment and consented to prosecution by information . Remember when Phaedra told Andy that it was a complaint and not an indictment?  Well, an indictment is when the prosecutor brings in to court witnesses and evidence to provide sufficient proof of their case to warrant a trial. If a person waives indictment and agrees to consent to prosecution by information, it means they are intending to plead guilty.  By saving the prosecutor and the court the expense of indictment, they generally get a downward departure in their plea deal of a certain amount of time. If he were going to plead not guilty, he would have wanted the witnesses to testify in an indictment proceeding in hopes of tripping up witnesses  in a later trial.

According to   AJC’s Rodney Ho the following new information was amended to the initial complaint:

According to the updated complaint filed this past Monday, Nida created two fake collection agencies to gain access to databases “in order to obtain unlimited access to the personal identifiers of others.”

Allegedly, he then:

– rented dozens of mailboxes at UPS stores and other places under various aliases, including the names of identity theft victims.

– created counterfeit drivers’ licenses and other ID, applied for and received unclaimed funds from state governments impersonating the true owners.

– applied and received refunds due former homeowners from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.

– purchased checks, including U.S. Treasury checks, from others knowing they were stolen and fraudulently obtained.

– created fake auto dealerships to obtain auto loan approvals using stolen identities.

– opened personal and business accounts at financial institutions using stolen identities to launder stolen and fraudulently obtained proceeds.”

So essentially in court on Monday it appears that Apollo acknowledged all of that information and is in continued negotiations with the prosecutors for a plea deal.

Remember that St. Julien rolled over on Apollo as the “bigger fish” in order to reduce her sentence. If her sentence was REDUCED to 61 months of prison time, we can expect Apollo to get a much more significant sentence as the bigger fish. The fact that the Feds amended the initial complaint would also to appear to increase his time. Unless he has someone he is willing to roll over on (um, whoever could that be?). He is looking at a lot of time.

His charges prior to Monday were Embezzlement (10 year max) , Bank Fraud (30 year max), Aggravated Identity Theft (automatically adds 2 years to Bank Fraud sentence) , and Conspiracy  (from how I read it, it doubles whatever the sentence for Bank Fraud he is given) . You can read all the details of the initial charges on Tamara Tattles  here.  The amended complaint doesn’t seem to have new charges, just more proof for the prosecutors regarding the severity of the four initial charges.  You can find all the posts about Apollo’s charges and recent behavior here.

What I still find odd is why someone on parole was not immediately taken back to prison upon arrest, and even more odd is the low bail. To me this indicates that he is trying to inform on someone.

So it looks like no court tomorrow/today/Friday. Probably. This whole case is odd. Apollo has waived his preliminary hearing, and his indictment. There is another shoe to drop,  stay tuned.


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91 responses to “Apollo Nida’s “Right Hand Bitch,” Gayla St. Julien Sentenced

  1. Terri

    It would make sense if he’s going to give evidence against someone bigger because he doesn’t strike me as smart enough to be the brains of any operation.

  2. Undine

    Thanks for the smoking hot tea, TT! You always have the best info and most insightful legal commentary to go with it. I can’t see who else Apollo could give up to lessen his sentence. He’s the target. There might be a few small fry associates to give up, but he’s the ringleader. So it’s all very puzzling how he’s out on bail, etc. No wonder Phaedra is spinning this complaint versus indictment bs. Reality will come knocking when Apollo gets locked up for 10 years or more, she can’t spin her way out of that one. My next paycheck I will drop a little into the Happy Pill Fund. I wish I could drop enough in there for a tropical vacation for you TT–you give us readers so much,

  3. Grandmalou

    This is better than Scandal. I absolutely can’t wait to hear who he is going to rat on. You know they say that blood is thicker than mud , but wait he’s not blood related to ,well I’ll hold on and wait for the facts. This is so juicy.

  4. PlusOneForLuck

    Please let it be Phaedra…. Please Please Please. I realize, as she is the mother of his children, it probably isn’t but a girl can dream, right???

    Thanks for working late on this one TT!! Tips in the happy pill fund are forthcoming…. 😉

  5. Amanda

    I know Gayla St.Julien personally and trust me the media dont know the half about Apollo nor is wife. Its okay because the world is bout to know everthing. Apollo should of paid attention to the 2 week warning before the feds even came…..lol Look for book.

    • Amanda, Have you ever had blood clots in your lungs?

      • mskayty

        …or had to wear pressure stockings on a long flight…*keekees*

      • JentheAUfan

        Damnit T, I fucking spit my drink out laughing!

      • Buck Henry

        I also believe that he’s snitching on individuals because of the low bail and him being on probation from that 20 year sentence. Remember I think he snitched last time because in federal time you must do 85% of your time and Apollo only did 5 or 7 years I think of 20 years. I truly think a major shoe is about to come down and don’t ever believe that Phaedra a lawyer decides out of the clear blue to be a funeral mortician over a lawyer. No she knows that she will eventually lose her license to practice law and so is looking at other things.

    • WhitD

      No, Tam let her speak! I wanna know! :)

    • Toosweetmonequ

      I bet she has a lot to do with it, I never like Phadera, she is so scandalous!

  6. KReality

    I would also think he will get more time but federal governent courts are so lenient. I won’t be surprised if they reduce the charges like they did for Teresa and Joe. They only pled to about 5 of the 41 counts. The prosecutors dropped the rest. Also I assume he wasn’t held for violating his parole because he hasn’t been found guilty yet.

    • puppylove

      It seems to me that no matter what bad things people do, no one is held accountable anymore. That is of course you are not really guilty of anything, or it’s you first offense and a single mother who made a mistake. They are the people that they throw the book at. as an ” example” to others. What in this wide world are our United States of American coming to? It kind of makes me sick. They guilty go free or almost so, and the slight mistakes people make get slammed, and if you are a celebrity your s#%@@ don’t even stink, never mind going to jail for something you absolutely did.

      • Lillie

        Poor folks don’t get away with anything, money talks, and the rich walk or just get a slap on the wrist. Boo Hoo Hoo for the rich, yeah right !!!!

    • Bravogirl24/7

      I was just thinking the something, with my small brain. I was thinking what reason would Bravo have to renew Phaedra’s non-existent story line? Then this happen and it reminded me that this thing with Appollo is Phaedra’s gravy train (not to be confused with Porsha’s Underground Railroad). She can ride this indictment train while getting paid until it’s her turn to go to jail. Just like Teresa over in Jersey, riding it till the wheels fall off. Bravo couldn’t have written a BETTER REALITY script if they wanted to.

      • I’m not sure what Phaedra’s plan is. Mob Wives and RHONJ may be cool with being on TV while their husband’s lecherous ways are shown on national TV, but if Phaedra really is getting into the mortuary business and moving to Athens, it would not be a good look for her to be on RHOA talking about her identity stealing husband while running a business where identity theft is already know to happen. It looks to me like Phaedra has been preparing for a career change on the expectation that she could face disbarment. Her life is a hot mess. I get she is a media whore like the rest of them, but I think she may be self aware enough to know we are laughing AT her not with her. (Unlike Nene who is not in on her own joke.)

        If she is as smart as she thinks she is, she would quit. She was smart enough to buy a new house and leave Apollo’s name off the deed…. http://s17948.p20.sites.pressdns.com/2014/01/25/this-is-phaedras-house-in-her-name-only/

        On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:


      • Cammie

        So let’s just say for arguments sake that Apollo is serving up a bigger fish and that’s why he’s not serving time already. In my typically slow head I can see two probable scenarios, 1). His oh’so charming wife is the head bitch in charge and as seen on this season, they hate eachother so much that Apollo is willing to throw her to the Feds or 2). the two of them have been setting a third dumdum up from the get-go as a patsy and aren’t sweating this whole mess as they know someone else is eventually going down harder than either of them might’ve. In scenario one, Apollo is throwing Phaedra under the bus, since this is a Federal case Federal Law is the book they’ll be going by right? State law doesn’t come into play at all? If so, then he can testify against her all day long, spouse or not, right? I can’t see him taking the long road of 40+ years in the pen to protect her. They clearly can’t stand eachother at this point so other than having the children’s welfare at heart (which both of them are way to selfish for IMO) what’s to stop him from taking her down too? Anything?

      • Anyone can testify against their spouse ANYTIME in ANY court if they want to. There are circumstances and state laws and such that allow people to refuse to testify against their spouses if they don’t want to incriminate them.

        I am not sure what the arrangement between Phaedra and Apollo is. Phaedra knew he was a snake when she picked him up. She knew exactly what she was getting in to. Was this all for dick for her? Is she coaching his criminal activities? What is her angle?

        On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:


      • puravidacostarica2

        Spousal privilege is a two-way street. A spouse can testify as to communications with his/her spouse under extremely limited circumstances under most state statutes. Don’t know the extent to which it limits testimony on those communications in a federal criminal court.

      • puravidacostarica2

        And that is different than the spouse’s right to not testify against the other in a criminal proceeding. The testimonial privilege cannot be enforced by the spouse on trial for the crime.

      • FINALLY you are useful. And BTW, I think you owe me a flat in Zurich.

        On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:08 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:


  7. KReality

    Phaedra should thank apollo for her getting a contract for next season of RHOA. Her new storyline will be single full time working parent raising two kids while husband in jail. I think she still would have been axed but Kandi being the fan favorite may have had a lot to do with her returning

    • She is such a fake high falooting (sp) bitch it is hard to believe she would agree to that storyline. Everyone will now give her “really bitch” look anytime she gives her little”everybody knows” speech unless it’s”everybody knows that when your husband is spending $8k in the strip club and has no real job something ain’t right with the buttermilk” . She has to know that every gift he ever gave her was paid for with stolen money. In my southern draw “what is a proper southern suppose to do with all these I’ll gotten possessions” sigh….

      • And looking at past pictures of Phaedra and looking at her talking head on the show and how she looked in the face at the reunion, is she having an allergic reaction to all of this because her eyes are closing and her face always looks like she smells something stinky. Can’t wait to see what is revealed about her involvement because I just can’t imagine her NOT knowing what’s been going on. I could easily picture her saying to Apollo, “Honey, look, you’re going get caught if you keep on doing this, now I told you.”

      • O.O

        I don’t believe for one second that he was or is spending $8,000 in the strip club a night . He probably can’t count that high.

  8. Valerie

    Since Right Hand Bitch (RHB) got 61 months, Apollo should be worried if he doesn’t have a backup plan. Thanks for clearing up the difference between a Complaint and an Indictment. It was very lawyerly of Phaedra, at the reunion, to act like a Complaint was nothing compared to an indictment. She’s tricky, but she entertains me to no end. Don’t ask me to explain it because I can’t. So RHB sold Apollo out, and of course no one I know believes Phaedra is innocent, but what about Peter? Any side bets about Peter’s involvement? Also, regarding RHB’s time of 5 years and 1 month, I’m assuming that’s already started, so why let Apollo stay free and with such low bail is a mystery to me now as well. Dare I say this could be huge and both Apollo and Phaedra will have to be put in the Witness Protection Program to protect them from……NENE! Hey, I’m allowed my conspiracy theories. Proof? I don’t need no stinkin’ proof! The Real Housewives of the Witness Protection Program.

    Actually, I feel really bad for anyone that has their identity stolen, I hear it’s just a nightmare. So these dirtbags deserve whatever is coming to them in all seriousness.

    Thanks Tamara for making it all understandable for me.

  9. Ac1111

    Ew. I arrive home from my low paying night job to this post. This is disgusting.

    • Katie

      I had the same feeling reading the charges. To steal from average folks like that who actually work and pay their way makes me boil. I hope he goes to jail for a very long time. And what about restitution? Is that even a possibility?

  10. myinfo

    Phaedra had to know what Apollo was up to no good. $8,000 spent on strippers is beyond a red flag. He had so much cash he had spend it some where.
    Phaedra should hide under a rock.

  11. Riley

    Hey T…did I read in one of your posts that you were going to watch Challange:Free Agents?
    I watch it every season. Any chance you might blog about it?

  12. I just cannot wish bad on anybody and especially if they have been alleged and not convicted. Wait to see what the end will be. I tend to opt on the side of extreme optimism. Call me sensitive, caring and considerate of others but not stupid enough to believe that the world is roses and no stank. lol I do like Phaedra, Kandi and Porsha, Todd, Apollo and Greg, hope all goes well for everybody on the show and that things turnout acceptable for Apollo too.

    • It must be blissful being so ignorant.

    • Bravogirl24/7

      No words.

      • Marilyn

        How about the people who worked all their lives for a pension and people whose lives were ruined when their identities were stolen. That’s who I hope things go well for. But hey Apollo got to spend 8,000 a week in strip clubs, buy expensive cars and Phaedra was able to throw over the top parties for her kids.

    • Valerie

      Brooks, you can be sensitive, caring and considerate of others because these guys didn’t ruin your life like they did so many others. They have irrefutable proof on Apollo. I think your sensitive, caring and consideration of others is better suited towards the victims and not the greedy bastards that had NO sensitive, caring or consideration of others whatsoever. What they have done is ugly, ugly, ugly. Put them the hell away! No disrespect Brooks, I hope you enjoy the rest of your day.

    • Cammie

      I smell troll shit.

    • Simone

      If you are optimistic about the ending for Apollo then give me a prescription of what you are on. I got to get some of that.

  13. RandomBogan

    I am a manager at a finance company and it enrages me when people act like this is a victimless crime. Next time you walk into a bank and apply for credit and get turned down its because assholes like this who deter lending power.

  14. Katie

    Tamara, thanks for breaking this down for us. You’re so clever!

  15. myinfo

    I am sure Phaedra wants to knock Apollo out. She now looks like a fool. How could she really care about Kenya and Apollo when her man was with strippers as his past time.
    Phaedra has looked at. Apollo with hate all season.
    “Everybody knows Apollo is a thief, a thug that beat Brandon, a cheater and has no respect for marriage”
    When Kenya told Phaedra her husband strays Phaedra said nothing. She did not want to address that statement.

    • Katrina

      I thought it was kinda telling on Kenya. Kenya said she has never met Apollo outside of taping, but yet she knows he strays. Who is he straying with and how does she know? It’s posible that it’s just shade!

      • Apollo’s indiscretions are widely known in Atlanta.

        On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:


      • Simone

        I have met enough Georgians in my year here that claim to know Phaedra and she is known as a gangsta bitch lawyer and a freak for the right price. As time goes by, I am starting to see her true colors. Phaedra is on to the next scam, church business and funerals.

    • Marilyn

      But Phaedra still manages to throw the “you don’t have a husband” insult at Kenya. Like she has a husband anybody would want.

      • Exactly, I don’t know how she will be able to look Kenya in the eye as the cameras roll for the next season. I’m shocked she was able to say what she did at Part I of the reunion. I see a lot hats in Phaedra’s future. That’s right honey, just keep looking down so that the only shade you get will be from your hats!

      • Valerie

        Marilyn, don’t forget that Phaedra said Kenya’s eggs were dried up or some such. As if having kids is something only special people like Phaedra can do. Come on even cockroaches procreate. That was ridiculous. I could watch Kenya and Phaedra all day.

      • Speaking of Phaedra’s kids. one thing that stuck out to me about Angela Stanton’s claims is that she said Phaedra never wanted kids. I guess people change their minds, but something about the way she talked about it seemed weird to me.

        I don’t really have a point. um, sorry.

        On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:


  16. tlrich33

    People can say what they want however, there is no way her husband had all these companies and no office he was going to everyday and Phaedra not know he was fraudulent. I’m sorry she had to know. This is why I have NOTHING for Phaedra, her quips, her “shade” is not funny to me because of her thieving ass husband and her lies and deceit. I absolutely believe Angela Stanton. Phaedra is a viper.

    • Teerii

      I agree, How does your husband bring money into the household and you don’t know the source of it? And as controlling as Phaedra is, she would not only discover the source but demand to be in charge of maintaining the flow and increase of the in-come producing activity. Phaedra is seven years older than Apollo and has always been in charge of their relationship.

  17. Just Me

    So Pahedra is the true mastermind but Apollo will take the charges and do the time, because Pahedra needs to be free in order to care for the kids. She will make sure his prision account is plentiful and he gets visits. But they dont have a marriage they have a business arrangement.
    It make take time but Phaedra is going down

  18. Katrina

    There is something in the way Apollo was charged that does not make sense. I still think he is a snitch. There have been massive breaches of identity theft and credit card information over the past year with major companies involved. Why would anyone want to waive inditement unless you you are innocent or you don’t want the charges exposed or fear of retaliation? He does not get any major press about his situation either.
    Thanks for the Tea Tamara T!

    • Innocent people do NOT waive their indictment. Waiving your indictment is basically saying, “you got me, now what?” If you are innocent you want an indictment so you can examine the witnesses and see the prosecution’s evidence. Then later when trial comes if the witnesses don’t give the exact same testimony they can be impeached. Also, if the prosecution doesn’t have the goods to bring to the indictment the whole case gets thrown out. So innocent people want an indictment.

      On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:


      • Cammie

        Is waiving your indictment typical of snitches? And if Apollo is throwing someone under the bus does that come out publicly in the plea or the sentencing? Sorry, I didn’t pay much attention to the Gravano case.

      • Hmmm not sure if the information on who they snitched on is stated in the written plea agreement. Someone with Pacer needs to pull Gayla St. Julian’s plea deal and see if Apollo’s name is mentioned.

        On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:


      • Valerie

        Tamera, I have Pacer at work. I’ll pull it up next week.

      • This is why you are my favorite! 20 Tamara Tattles Tokens to you!

        On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:


      • Valerie

        Awww. I’ll sleep with them under my pillow. (Does that sound a little creepy?)

      • Valerie

        I just noticed I misspelled your name, sorry.

  19. sandra

    Huh? “Don’t want the charges exposed.” The charges are all right here in black and white.

  20. My guess is the chain of command goes Apollo, Phaedra, and the person who taught Phaedra the game a long time ago, (whom I’m not going to mention their name as they are a high up gang member). I believe Phaedra will be going down. TT, nobody does a blog better than you. TY I hope all your hard work is starting to pay off as your blog explodes!

    • Terri

      OK, I’m saying this for fun because I know it’s not true but it would make great TV. I want Kenya to be the mastermind behind the operation. She’s smart, devious & that would have been the perfect excuse for any communication between Apollo & Kenya. I think I watch too much daytime TV.

      • Born 2B Lucky

        TT Girrrrrrrrrl I got an hour sleep but I’m up. Baby in one hand and typing with the other. I am so sick of people keep saying Phaedra will divorce Apollo. Whoever believes all that southern bell crap is stupid. What I don’t get is how Apollo is allowed all this freedom by the court something in this water ain’t clean. My identity was stolen over 3 years ago similar to what he did and I am still trying to repair it. None of those companies wanted to believe that I had nothing to do with this. The dude bought homes in my name that got foreclose, forge my signature in opening bank accounts in other states (NO WE NEVER DATED). Luckily my lawyer was able to cleared some of it up but I did end up filing bankruptcy. The individual lived in California and I lived in New York no relations whatsoever and we had never met. He was able to do all this by getting my stuff off LexisNexis so that sight is not that safe as they proclaim. Still fighting today to get it resolve so I want Apollo and people like him to get what they deserve for taking people shyttttt without regards. As for Phaedra she is a loser, a liar and an accomplices. I guess when you have a wife that only represent thugs who can’t win any case that I know of( Might be Wrong), but know the law and have the pass code to LexisNexis you feel comfortable and feel you are untouchable. Apollo will soon soon to be re-acquainted with having his gland stroke and stimulated by hungry maledom.

        Thanks for the tea.

      • Teerii

        Waaaaaaay tooooooo much, girlfriend!!!! LOL!

      • Teerii

        Okay Terri but, there”s no fun for the hundreds of people who had well earned money taken from them! So I agree with you girlfriend again,waaaaay toooo much tv.

      • Terri

        I agree, it’s not a laughing matter. I’ve known too many people who have had their identities stolen or been duped out of their property and savings by cons. I hope that Apollo doesn’t get to negotiate for a lesser sentence and that he spends a significant amount of time in prison for this. If Phaedra is also involved I hope she pays the price for it too.

    • Valerie

      Zenjen, OFF TOPIC SORRY. Is it super selfish of me to hope that this blog doesn’t explode because I love the size it is right now. Once it explodes I get lost in the shuffle and I really prefer to be the center of attention. I do hope all good things come Tamera’s way, I just love the hominess (dysfunctional home sometimes of course) of this blog.

      • I’ll always pay you attention, Val. But I’m a big girl and girl gotta EAT! lol.

        On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:


      • @Valerie much success to TT but me too. Only blog I post on these days because I know the wackadoodles vs the craziness on other blogs because there is no moderator. With success comes change so we get to enjoy it for now. Big sigh…my only Blacklist blogger that puts it DOWN HAPPY Hour drinking for TT

    • Marilyn

      Phaedra is probably involved but as TT pointed out Apollo is a dummy. She probably manipulated the situations where he doesn’t realize she is the mastermind. I think he is delusional enough to think that the plan was all his.

  21. Apollo impresses me as someone who prison can’t help. He’s just going to go there and ask himself where his con went wrong and try to figure out how he could improve on his game. Like, “I ain’t never trusting bitches again.” He seems like someone who thinks the world owes him something and that nobody is getting hurt from his crimes. They were not victimless crimes. Prison will do him no good, but it will protect future victims for a while. He’ll try to get away with something else when he’s out again. He’s incorrigible. He’s driven to get over on the system.

    • @Katimir, I feel the same way. In my most recent post about Apollo he seems very nonchalant about Gayla’s sentence as if it was nothing. I agree he will be in prison planning his next scam the entire time.

      On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:


      • Valerie

        Of course he will. Prison reforms no one. They don’t even try anymore. It’s become a place to hone your skills and find like minded people. Stealing other people’s money is what he’s good at, he won’t change. Personally, I believe he hates Phaedra but I think Phaedra still has a little crush on him. Those two adorable boys will hopefully be ok. I worry for them.

    • Dr. D

      You are correct, he seems almost unimpressed or phased with the charges. If you watched RHOA, he resumed his normal life and he has since then made several club apprearances in addition to doing “charity” work all while Gayla’s sitting in jail and knowing he has been implicated? The fact that a person can turn their affect off is ALARMING! Unfortunately, I agree with you that prison will do him no good because operating in deceit is all he has done with is life…

  22. Michelle

    So sad. I feel sorry for those boys

  23. Simone

    Apollo no longer fits into Phaedra’s next phony life phase which is church and funerals. Therefore him going to jail works out well with her. I just hope he smartens up and rolls on her.

    • SoCalCPA

      ditto. I just don’t see what else she has to offer him. If she’s worthless, it may be worth his while to just throw her to the dogs.

  24. JenB

    Phaedra knew where the money was made and I believe she was involved. Apollo is not smart at all and it would have been so easy for Phaedra to tell him what to do and how to do it. I could see Apollo easily getting confused and having to ask his “boss”, what do I do next? So unless his cell phone was loaded down with calls to another person, it had to be Phaedra.

  25. Bravogirl24/7

    Is that the definition of a sociopath?

    He has hidden enough money that the time (5 years) in custody may be worth it. Phaedra won’t be able to tell him anything. “It’s my money, I stole it.

  26. SoCalCPA

    Kenya said it best — she doesn’t have do do anything but sit there and let karma work its magic. The day that Phaedra gets locked up will be a glorious one.

  27. Regarding testifying against a spouse: there are two different things at play. Spousal privilege, in which the power lies in the hands of the witness spouse, who may refuse or agree to testify against a spouse. The defendant spouse used to be able to block that testimony, but not any more in federal court. State laws vary.

    In the second situation called spousal communication privilege, the defendant can petition to bar their spouse from disclosing information gleaned from confidential communications between them.

    As for waiving a grand jury indictment, the reason for having one, (to get a glimpse of the prosecution case and witnesses) is balanced by the risk of having one’s own testimony at the grand jury hearing used to trip you up at trial. It’s a Hobson’s Choice. While ol Apollo will probably plead, he doesn’t really need a grand jury proceeding to see the prosecution case. At this point he knows what they have.

    So, waiving grand jury proceedings doesn’t really tell us much about what he’ll do, but my guess is he’s a canary.

    • He’s gonna take a plea.

      On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Tamara Tattles wrote:


      • Oh, I agree. His goose is cooked. Jes’ saying, there are reasons people work a deal to forego grand jury indictments. Sometimes prosecutors will offer not to request increased bail, or will expedite discovery in exchange. Apollo might have gone for that promise not to increase bail, cause, you know, he wants to be free to do his charity work.

      • So you just wanted to sound important because you know a lawyer of something? Um. MAM I am a FAKE INTERNET LAWYER. I got this.

        On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Tamara Tattles wrote:


  28. Well, I do know you so there’s that…

  29. PlusOneForLuck

    TT – did you get what you needed from Pacer? I too have access at work — although I’ve only ever accessed it for bankruptcy records I’m sure I can get in for other things. Just send me an email of what you need me to look for & I’m happy to do it :)

  30. Angel

    I feel bad for their 2 little boys, like everyone else. Growing up with 2 crooks for parents is not a good thing. They need better examples in their life.

  31. Lillie

    Mostly everything has been said, I just hope that the Nidas get what is coming to them, when she call Kenya a barren woman, I felt Kenya’s pain, it hurt me. Yes, Fakedra will get her just desserts too, Apollo has disgraced her upperty (sp) family as well. They hurt lots of innocent poor people, who didn’t have the money to throw their children $20-40,000 birthday parties they are not going to remember anyway, only on film will they get to see it.
    Lock up both of them and throw away the key, and Apollo was already on parole, it is like that did not even come into play for a violation. Money talks and bullshit walks.

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