What’s Wrong With This Picture? Bert and Ernie Version.

bertErnieWell, to most of us, I am sure the answer is nothing. But there is always some moron who takes on the role of thought police. In this case it is some wingnut conservative Christian named Bryan Fisher. He takes issue with this upcoming cover of The New Yorker before it is even on the news stands.

According to On Top Magazine:

The artist Jack Hunter said of the cover, titled “Moment of Joy,”: “It’s amazing to witness how attitudes on gay rights have evolved in my lifetime. … This is great for our kids, a moment we can all celebrate.”

Fischer criticized the magazine’s editors, calling them “irresponsible” for putting Bert and Ernie in a “homosexual clinch” on their cover.

“Ladies and gentlemen, they are cuddling on a couch, this is a romantic interlude,” Fischer told his Focal Point listeners.

Good Lord.

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59 responses to “What’s Wrong With This Picture? Bert and Ernie Version.

  1. I don’t think this should be an issue for anyone since no one actually buys or read The New Yorker.

    • You are just not old enough, nor do you make enough money to read it. 😛

      Notwithstanding its title, The New Yorker is read nationwide, with 53% of its circulation in the top ten U.S. metropolitan areas. According to Mediamark Research Inc., the average age of the New Yorker reader in 2009 is 47 (compared to 43 in 1980 and 46 in 1990). The average household income of The New Yorker readers in 2009 is $109,877 (the average income in 1980 was $62,788 and the average income in 1990 was $70,233).[22

    • Nicole

      Love the New Yorker!

  2. ((In my best Phaedra voice)) Ev-rabody knows Bert and Ernie were gay, they’ve been living in “sin” for decades!!!
    Im curious if the powers that be, in the Sesame Street world, condoned this, I recall Big Bird being used in the last Presidential race and it caused a big controversy. As for Mr. Fischer, get over it already, they’re queer and they’re here and not going anywhere.

  3. We Found Love in a Hopeless Place

    I just don’t get why people want to sexual puppets… Is it just me?

  4. eg

    This reminds me of the “Teletubbies” bruhaha with Jerry Falwell several years ago. When did people start being able to to tell the sex (or orientation) of a muppet, puppet, or seemingly sexless cartoon character or animation etc. as long as it makes kids happy to watch them? I bet they don’t or didn’t care wether the “Pokemon” characters were male or female, they just liked watching them. Same thing with a lot of other things kids watch.. Adults mess up so much stuff.

    • Well that one teletubbie was clearly a cross dresser…

      • There was a reason he was named Tinkywinky 😉

      • Sandra

        All because one was purple and carried a purse. My daughter used to watch teletubbies when she was little, and so by extension, I did too. It wasn’t a purse, it was called a “magic bag”. Guess Mr. Falwell missed that bit. And I guess no one is allowed to use the colour purple, or a rainbow anymore because they now belong to the gay movement?

      • KAM

        Same here-my son loved Teletubbies, I can’t tell you many hours we spent watching it. It never occurred to me or anyone in my house that they even had a sexual preference, being that they are TELETUBBIES!

  5. Sandra

    The problem I have with this B & E thing, is that the creators of Sesame Street have said over and over again that they have NO sexuality. They are not human, they are muppets.

    Then from out of somewhere, someone comes along and co-opts them for their own use.

    If I had created the characters, I would be damn mad that someone else has come along and changed that creation for their own personal point of view and use them without any thought that, hey, they don’t belong to you. Get your own mascots, as it were, from your own ideas.

    • Hmmm when Big Bird got involved in the presidential election Sesame Street had a hissy fit and said the muppets were not supportive of any political cause. I wonder if they will raise a stink over this artist’s rendition?

    • vivaladiva831

      I’m glad I read down, I was going to mention that. Bert and Ernie have no sexuality and are merely best friends. I don’t understand how this is not some kind of trademark violation. As far as young children being exposed to this, I have young children who watch Sesame Street. They do not read The New Yorker and will most likely never see this. Even if they did, they would not view it as a sexual thing. In fact if they asked me, all I would have to say is that they are best friends giving a hug. I don’t feel that they should use children’s show characters to represent a moment in gay history. I don’t think I would like it if I were gay either. if i were i think i would rather see two women or two men.

    • We Found Love in a Hopeless Place

      ITA. Well said.

  6. I hope they go all broke back mountain on each other.

  7. jarlath

    I’m not sure what makes this guy a “wingnut”. He’s just from a different era.

    • Sandra

      I’m sure Mr. Fischer would not have responded if Mr. Hunter hadn’t labeled B & E as icons of same sex marriage in the first place.

    • Okay I google imaged him. He is old. I guess we can give him the old people pass. However, he is part of American Family Association and unfortunately has a lot of media attention.

  8. Sandra

    Just because someone is old means they can be dismissed, ignored and generally disregarded?

  9. Sandra

    Like Einstein, Galileo, Copernicus? Outdated means if they don’t agree with the latest social hysteria?

  10. steve

    someone forgot Michealangelo and DaVinci in their list..wait they were open to same sex. Thi s cover is probably spurred by the supreme cts recent findings. Meant to draw controversy and generate conversation and maybe increase sales

  11. Sandra

    TT: Is anyone allowed to disagree?

  12. steve

    The tv pic helped. :) but i was thinking that a publication will do anything to increase circulation

  13. steve

    if that cover pic was two men or two women in the same pose would the cover even been something talked about?

  14. Sandra

    What I have a problem with is the word “marriage”. I have no problem with civil unions, common-law partnerships, no matter what the proclivity, just don’t call it marriage. Marriage implies that it has been sanctified by God and just because you label it marriage, that all of a sudden, it’s ok with Him.

    That doesn’t mean I disagree with equal rights under the law regarding benefits, taxes, housing and all the rest. Many straight couples are common-law or go to a Justice Of The Peace, or City Hall to legalize their union. But the fight seems to be over the word “marriage” and the gay rights movement will not back down until they have demanded that it is called marriage.

    So here’s a solution. Many churches, of many denominations, will not perform marriages in their sanctuaries if you are not a member of that particular church and abide by the beliefs of that particular body of Christ. Ditto goes for Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Mormons, et al. Not only should this apply to gay couples, but also straight couples who go church shopping just because they want the backdrop, but don’t necessarily have the belief to go along with it.

    • lwickedgirl

      I am a lesbian and I also am only half a Christian. I don’t have a problem with straight people keeping the word marriage for them selves, I do have a problem when I am denied all the rights a straight couple has with my wife because neither of us have a penis. We have had two civil commitment ceremonies, one in Hawaii and one in our home state, and yet our relationship is not recognized by our federal government.
      Keep the word if that makes you happy but give us our rights.

      • It is recognized now. Congrats!

      • Sandra

        Um, what is “half a Christian”? Puzzled here…

      • lwickedgirl

        not in my state

      • Urethra Franklin

        All religious marriages need to be legalized with marriage license/certificate.
        Many nonreligious marriages are performed by a Justice of Peace.

        All marriages that end in divorce involves legal work, not religious work.

        I don’t understand the mental block of using the term “marriage” when 2 people want to be married. The union of marriage has more secularized legal weight than religious.

  15. steve

    What MORE segregation?

  16. steve

    TT i wasnt knocking the mag for using the supremes ruling on the cover i was just speculating if using child show puppets to do it wasnt a blatently inflammatory way to do it. Having financial gain for the reason for the choice the editor made. And peppermint patty was athletic..marci was gay

  17. Just wait until the immigration debate starts to really heat up even more. They will be asking for Dora and Deigo to produce papers to show they have the right to legally be in the US. Adults always screw up everything.

  18. Tango

    Agreed Sandra. I was going to say something similar. I don’t have issues with gay unions/marriages, but I don’t think there can or should be laws forcing any churches to marry same-sex couples. I had a hard time finding a church for my wedding because they do want to make you become members and pay tidings, (tithings?) Etc. And that’s fine, it’s their right as private entities.

  19. Otherpeoplesproblems

    I like the cover. Its funny, while celebrating an actual life changing event. The new yorker is satire, if it was just two gays how is that clever? I agree with everyone saying theyre puppets they dont have genders or sexual preferences but… Jeez its just funny its not meant to be analyzed so deeply.

    This guy fischer doesnt seem like the target market for the new yorker, why do people even care what he has to say? He acts like hes telling us something profound: we all understand the cover, no need to expain the joke. I did laugh at “homosexual clinch” though.

  20. lwickedgirl, How can someone be half Christian? Are you Christian from the waist up? Or every other day?

  21. Lori

    I love this! Adorable!

  22. Wingnut conservitive Christian? Racist much? Just lost a follower and I will tell my friends. There was no reason to degrade someone for they’re views because they are different! Isn’t that the message behind your comment? Wingnut conservitive Christians (Which I am proud to be) have every right to think and feel the way they feel. It is a God given trait.

    • This is not really a board for wingnut conservative Christians who take issue with that cover. Please do leave and tell warn all your wingnut friends that homophobes are not welcome here. I have no idea what you could possibly be referencing with the “racist” comment.

      • Cat

        I’m really surprised that someone responded to a thread that is almost a year old. And I’m glad, TT, that you took the time to respond.

        I am not gay, but have many friends who are. I’ve seen their relationships and have compared them to what I have experienced as far as “traditional” relationships. And from what I have seen, the gays have it right. They are so strong in their love for each other, possibly because they face so much ridicule from those who just can’t mind their own business?

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