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his is the post that I don’t know how to write. I want to talk about tonight’s season finale of RHONJ. I may or may not wait to hit post until after the show. But honestly, I just don’t GET it. I might try and watch last week’s episode in a rerun before tonight’s episode. But frankly after today’s CLEAN ALL THE THINGS! freakout, I’m showered fed and ready for bed. I may be too tired to sort this mess out, so I’m going to ask y’all to help me.
Let’s look at the two scenes from last week directly related to this whole debacle ….
In what I will call, the “Salon Scene” … well wait. I have questions already. Why is Teresa going to a salon she never goes to, for hair and make-up for the “Posche Scene” with Kim D? Whose Salon is this? This Angelo character whose resume includes managing a bikini bar has moved on to Salon owner? Bald hair salon manager? Hair stylist? How exactly is he connected to this salon? It seems his job is a fetch and step boy for Kim D. Exactly how far down the food chain does one have to fall before this becomes one’s professional fate? Did Kim D even have anything done at this salon? I don’t remember.
It’s clear that it was a set-up of Teresa. Y’all know I don’t take her side very often. However, I am still not convinced that the salon scene that aired last week was the original salon scene that was shot. I was not buying Teresa’s constant, “I don’t want to talk about my fambly” and the whole fleeing the scene stuff. I think Teresa may have freaked out at her honest reaction and begged Bravo for a reshoot where she comes off as more supportive of Melissa a few days after the Posche fashion show. If you recall, someone (likely Kim G) was tweeting Jacqueline about the “set-up” before baldy even showed up. Someone told Jacqueline that Teresa was behind all this and Jac believed them. Maybe Teresa was complicit at first and then somehow got Bravo to agree to a reshoot? I know for a fact that Bravo does reshoot scenes when a storyline changes. But I also know that it never happens at the request of a cast member (In this case Teresa) especially when she’s been in the villain role all season. I don’t think they would reshoot at Tre’s request. Still, the whole thing, including Tre’s reaction seemed fake. So maybe she knew exactly what the situation was when she went in to film? I’m pretty sure the storyline was written by Bravo, and all they had to do was ask Kim D and she was more than happy to be the instigator of the drama. I’m fine with the treatment she will get tonight from Joe Gorga. She’s the one with the most blood on her hands on-camera, even if she was just playing her role.
Then there was the big Posche scene. This bald dude walks up to a table and says hello to Melissa. I know I am in the minority here but I believe Melissa when she says she couldn’t place the face. I worked with 100s of people in just the last few years. Some I talked with every day and I’ll be damned if I can remember exactly where we worked together when I see them in the supermarket. Some people are not good with names and faces. So at the table, I understand Melissa’s reaction. And Tre’s reaction. What I don’t understand is the bathroom scene. Why are Melissa and Tre in the bathroom? I guess Tre went in there to ask her alone about Baldy. I’m leaning toward believing Tre here. Why is Melissa calling her husband? I guess she feels the set-up. Cameras are rolling, Baldy is wearing a mic, I guess I can see her suspecting Tre. Tre has hardly been Little Miss Innocent this season.
To be honest though? Tre’s most serious crime so far at the fashion show is the hideous off the shoulder (shudder) purple sequence (shudder) mini-dress. And the matching sequence purple rose wristband thingy. I have to say, this seems like Bravo really ganging up on Tre. This is the closest I’ve been in many seasons to being a Tre Hugger, but in this case, she may actually need a hug. My opinion may change after tonight’s episode. But before we watch, could y’all please address some of my questions? Please and thank you.
Melissa you are gorgeous, classy and very polite, women need to take classes from you girl. Your hubby is a nice as you and he has a heart of gold, God bless you both.
Let’s all settle down & see it for what it is..a tv show for entertainment…period (there’s the period some of you asked for). We all have our favorites and villains, but really, must we be so vicious about it? All I know is what I see, it was a “set-up” to embarrass a young pretty wife and mother for what she may or may not have done for a week 8 years ago. Thresea called Melissa a c*nt just like Joe called Tre that plus a bitch in full view of their “friends” and xx million viewers. The reason Joe’s brother Pete was at the “fashion show” should be obvious..as Tre said “see he looks so much like Joe that when he is out with a girl they think it’s my Joe”..that’s where those rumors come from. I feel sorry for Tre she is a woman trying to keep her family intact but listening to the people from her own husband on down giving her bad advice. Anyway she’s do for a total meltdown like so many others.
All that said, I love many non-scripted shows, and enjoy them as entertainment.
Are you seriously trying to tell people how to watch tv?
Nope! Hopefully “trying” to get people not to be so mean, vicious and rude about others they don’t even know. We can give our opinions without resorting to trash and hurtful language. Just because someone is in the public eye doesn’t make them a target of filth. Guess that’s too much to hope for. How and what people watch is up to them, no one else.
this episode perfectly explains why i am so over bravo. the producer manipulations were so blatant and over the top, that the entire episode made no sense. i am on board with the team that thinks teresas hands are quite dirty. how much she knew and when she actually knew it, are impossible to gauge. melissa probably was a stripper, but i dont care. kathy is either a chicken or a sly fox, cause she wisely stayed out of it as much as possible. even caroline was restrained, for once. not sure why jaq was so completely losing it. tre panicked about being called out for being a part of it. cannot figure out why any of them continue to have relationships with kim d. bravo was the big instigator in all of this, but they certainly urged on the wild howives behavior. i no longer believe anything anyone says on these shows. they have become as scripted as i love lucy reruns. and about as boring and predictable.
Let us all recall the PFS where Danielle was chased by Teresa, and Ashlee. Teresa wanted to say hi to Danielle? PLEASE already. She knew what she was doing. When everything was said and done and the police questioned her, she pretended like she had NO CLUE what they were talking about and then turned everything on Danielle. With that being said, I believe she is involved with wanting to expose Melissa, but had someone else do it so she can pull the clueless routine. I lost respect for Teresa after season one.
Kim D set the whole thing up, and Teresa was aware of it, but didn’t stop her. I guess guilty by association. They brought Melissa’s holier than though act to a close. So what she stripped when she was younger…we all make mistakes. But what makes us great and relatable is when we own those mistakes. The fact that she keeps lying about it makes her a manipulative, lying, loser that can’t be trusted. I don’t think Peter Guidice had anything to do with it, he was there with his wife. Jacqueline should get a life. She has no story line, so I guess that’s why she’s all wrapped up into what Teresa has going.
Melissa stripped for a week, decided she didn’t like it, and decided to do bartending at the same strip club instead. She knew who the guy was from the moment he walked up to the table, you could see it all over her face. How about Nene Leakes can never be set up as it pertains to her stripper past, because she owned it! (I’m not a huge fan of NeNe, I’m just saying…) I blame Melissa for the entire she-bang being flipped out of proportion by calling her husband. “Joey, a guy I used to dance for is here ruining my reputation. Come knock him out as a hint to what could happen to anybody else who happens to bring up my past!”
The guy simply said hi to you, how is that a setup? She talked all over herself on this episode. Good work Melissa and Kim D!
I mean Good work Teresa and Kim D
so how do you know she stripped for a week…did you see her in action?
I cosign you are right on point!
Did anybody else hear the statement that the bald guy worked there for only one day?
I did…now I’m certain it was a set up for Bravo cause dude bounced after he played his part
I am totally confused…. Last night’s episode was filmed the day before S3 reunion. It was the finale of S4, and S4 reunion was filmed a week or two ago, right? When was the rest of S4 filmed before or after the finale? The trip to Napa, the wine launch?
Why would they wait a whole year after the finale to do the reunion? Please help me make some sense of this. Thanks
Timeline
July
Lookers takes the girls for mani pedis (oops she lied in her talking head about babysitting girls for launch party)
August 27 trip to Napa
Fashion show September 27
Season 3 reunion tapes (Jac can not show up because of what happened at fashion show yet Lookers and Teresa were there)
October 7 Caro’s radio show
October 8 Fabellini Launch
Bravo and Lookers rumored girlfriend Cat the producer totally screwed up the editing of the show
I don’t have a favorite on this show…overall I believe Teresa is a liar and a twat…but they have all sold themselves for a bravo check and this is the consequence
I seem to be in the minority. I agree with Michelle C above, that when Melissa came on the show and was received well, it royally chapped Tres patoot. I want to think that Tre wouldn’t have done this…but Jaq (who I usually detest) had a few valid points in her blog. Such as:
Why was Pete there if he didn’t expect a scene?
Why didn’t Tre take Melissa by the hand and walk out when Baldy was there? At the very least, why didn’t she warn her or shut him down at the table?
Mainly, the person who seems most behind this in Kim D. Why did Tre stay inside and laugh with her if she didn’t approve of this plan?
Above alllllll else, why are ALL of them still ok with Kim D? In her blog Jac says she is still friends with her. With that type of character…why??? And Melissa wore one of her outfits for some magazine after all this. Why???
And why did Pete Guidice congratulate Tre when it was all over? omg!
I think Pete might have had something to do with this. His name was mentioned a few times and somebody (I think Melissa) said he needs to get a beating.
I don’t know what he was congratulating Teresa for either, though. Judging by the look on her face, neither did she lol.
I loved Teresa’s reasoning for trying to blame Jaq for setting Melissa up — because SHE (Jacqueline) was a stripper, too! I know this is only one of the hundreds of rumors Teresa has tried to start about her cast members, but has this one actually been proven? I’m going to guess that it hasn’t.
And I think that just her knowing what was going to happen makes her part of the set-up, and no one will convince me that she didn’t know. What Angelo said simply confirmed it. Why did he leave in such a hurry, btw lol?
This only proves that if Teresa thought Melissa was a stripper, she wound have blurted it out long ago and last knight during the drama. She has NO FILTER. That’s why she said that about jaq. She was genuinely trying to protect her family and got kicked from all directions for it. Not one of them for one second entertained a bit of doubt — because they knew they were lying. In the bathroom, if Melissa really was on good Ted with Teresa like she pretended to be, she would have know Teresa was on her side and trying to warn her. Instead she was ready to go at it. Which, again, took Teresa by surprise.
This is what Teresa said, verbatim:
“Chris told Joe that he met Jacqueline as a stripper, so maybe she got involved because she has some guilty conscience with the whole stripper past. She’s a f*cking c*nt.”
She said this in a private interview — that’s a lot to “blurt out” in one sitting, and according to most of the cast members, she HAS blurted out that Melissa was a stripper many times. And how would sharing these lies with the audience protect her family?
Teresa was not on Melissa’s side. Melissa figured this out the minute Teresa kept coming back to grilling her about what Bald Guy said, instead of calling him out for the lies that he told.
She grilled her? Point to a specific “grilling” question? When I watched it, she never even ASKED if melissawas a stripper. She said repeatedly that she did not believe the guy. Maybe it was different in other time zones.
Back to realty! I Think this episode for Teresa was be careful what you wish for. I do believe she was trying to get Jac to say something to Mel about stripping early on in the season but she declined. When Melissa was being nice on camera and was becoming more likable it pissed Teresa off and Her minion, Kim D, took action. It would publicize her fashion show and help out a friend(fellow business woman). T became apprehensive and Kim said don’t worry you’ll have nothing to do with it, it’s on me. Teresa not knowing the particulars was nervous and maybe somewhat remorseful. But then manages to convince herself that she didn’t;t do nothin, right?right? Kim worked it for producers to have baldy Miked. He clearly outed the mission on audio. Then the Producer texted Jac, The producer is allegedly friends with many of the cast including T. The producers definitely wanted a juicy show but I don’t think any other cast members knew about it . The whole shit is crazy but I believe Jac is sincere and Caroline has had a rough year and was raw and bitchy but real. Melissa and Kathy are looking for there 15 minutes and Teresa is paying the bills.
I really think there is a chance that joe gorga is mentally challenged. At the very leat he has a really low iq and an emotional age of 12.
It’s the gene pool.
True, so true.
I don’t disagree. But I don’t think either are malicious. However, Melissa, the Manzos and Jaq seem to be malicious to me.
I think it’s an emotional immaturity.
i have not read the blog or reply’s but love or hate teresa she is true to herself. i love teresa
The weirdest thing for me is when baldy says “so this is Kim’s fashion show?”. Melissa says, yeah it is and he says “it is huh, I cant wait to see it”.. The guy was just with Kim and Teresa at the salon and Im guessing was invited by Kim, and he didnt know where he was or what it was for?
I agree. It was all weird. TRE WAS SET UP.
there i said it.
My confusion is, how can Melissa, Caro, Jac, and Kathy scream set up when all Angelo did was say hi?!! Where’s the set up and why is Tre being blamed for this set up? I’m sorry but the only thing I see is Bravo playing all of the other ladies and bringing down Tre.
We can ignore it if we want, but Melissa started this whole war before she got on the show. The evidence is out there, she is so far from innocent. She’s manipulative, a puppet master and she has everyone duped.
Whew…I needed to get that out lol.
Haha!
So was I the only one who heard this creepy guy laughing and talking about how Kim D asked him to confront Melissa and make her look bad? Thats a set up. But I dont think Teresa was smart enough to organize this It was all Bravo and Kim D
Where are my normal non Tre Hugging friends? Are you just going to let me be led by the Tre Huggers? THEY ARE WINNING? Help me here!
I’m not a tree hugger. I just hate the manzitas and gorkies a whole lot. They seem jealous bitter and small to me. Teresa is just an innocent bystander who got a ton of love for flipping a table. The rest of them could never stand that she was the breakout star.
I like Caroline a lot. And Jaq to degree. I can’t hate on them. Melissa I could be swayed to hate… I love Kathy and Richard. And laugh at people who don’t get Rich.
But in the whole Tre v Melissa thing? I’m not sure.
Hell the problem could be Jaq. I am SOFA KING CONFUSED!
I get Rich. He is a coward who can be very funny behind people’s backs but never has the courage to voice the same types of opinions to their faces.
We’re On the same page!
I so agree with you! Nobody anticipated Teresa would blow up! LOL! Caroline and Jacqueline absolutely hate it! They are go green with envy it’s unreal. As for Melissa, I’m glad her cover was blown. She should own that she used to be a stripper, even if it was for a week. If she would admit it, then she could never be “setup”. Coward.
Melissa’s sister is twitter warring with Kim d. The sisters name is Lysa Simpson (honest) and she’s a low rent, classless pig.
She is defending her sister how has she gotten to be a low life she is doing what alot of Teresa’s Stans are…
You need a period. It something.
I have a period she can have. But someone else is going to have to provide the rest of the punctuation.
I’m feeling opposite on the reactions. Teresa seemed genuinely out of her normal on camera personality. Because she was that caught off guard. And I totally saw a flash of panic in Melissa’s face when she saw baldy. The story is that she saw his mic pack and knew he was going to be the one who brought the drama.
Angelo was listed as the PR manager for he salon. The salon owners are some Greek guy and his wife penny. The story was that Kim talked Teresa into going o the salon as a favor to the owner.
Hello! First time commenting! From what I gather the salon is owned by Penny, and the bald guy Angelo is a close friend of Penny and her husband Johnny. I have also read that the club that Melissa worked at was/is owned by either Penny or Johnny’s family. IDK why Penny was edited out of the scenes at the salon but she is standing right behind Melissa at the fashion show when Mel and Kathy first arrived and are standing talking to Teresa and Kim D. It was also said that all of the ladies of the cast were supposed to get their hair and make-up done at this salon but they backed out at the last minute and only Teresa showed up. It has also come out that a producer of the show, Cat R., text the cast/Jac (mutual friend that Jac didn’t want to name) and this “sealed her fate” at Bravo and she was fired.
Thanks for the helpful first comment. Not sure I believe the whole hatchet job on Cat Rodriguez though. I don’t have a reason for feeling that way. I guess we will see. It is the usual time for RHONJ to be making changes though. I think the Cat story may have been fabricated by… well someone not associated with the show at all. That’s all I’ll say about that.
You’re welcome! I am ready for this season to be over! It seems like it’s been on forever and everything that has happen and will happen tonight was talked about a year ago. And not to mention the editing and voice-overs. Ugh! LOL!
I think that there is a lot to the story of Cat and Looker. The is a whole story on another blog with pictures and tweets. Check fameworgas
The only one set up tonight was Teresa. I think that the set up was supposed to be for Lookers at the salon before the show since all the housewives were going to be there. Cat flipped the script to setting up Teresa with the help of Lookers, Jac and Joey. Notice all the lies from Lookers – Only worked for a week. Bikini bar but to Joe strip club. Joey I was at home when he was next door and had his mic on when he got there 10 minutes later. Jac- Teresa was standing next to Angelo when he said it but Teresa was around Angelo.
Rich claimed last week that he never said his wife smelled like “fish” so now he and the rest are claiming that edit would not put words in Angelo’s mouth. Sorry, but you can have it both ways.
I am glad that this season is over. I hope Teresa leaves Bravo and takes all the products and money Bravo makes from them with her. The rest of the cast will start eating each other.
If Tre did know she wouldn’t want her true colors shown on Bravo,
so she had to act…
On the other hand, I hope someone gouges Kim’s eyes out tonight,
but we didn’t hear about that so she must still have eyes…
I am at the point of exhaustion from all the speculation and for the last several days the attitude of who the heck knows…
I doubt any of the women are totally innocent and I am coming to the conclusion that Bravo has edited and reshot so much of this season, turning the timeline on its head that its pretty much all fake..
and in the end, those that want to believe that Teresa is evil, will, and those that want to believe she is an innocent victim will do that too… all I know is that I am pretty much done.
Bravo and Andy is doing a great job of destroying a family and not without the help of Teresa and Joe G who signed up to do it….